Release A Demo Please

[_APA [~sudo]]

Devs should release a DEMO for people to try the game and see how it runs on their PC before buying the full version. At least they can do that so everyone buying can pre-test and dont have to worry about 2hrs playtime limitation.

Edit:
PS Demo - https://www.thegamer.com/the-last-of-us-part-1-two-hour-demo-ps-plus-premium/
PC Demo: None

[episoder]

that was the first thing i posted too. it's too late for that now tho, really.

currently on recommended specs you can get it to compile the shaders in roughly an hour.

that is enough headroom to check ingame performance if you skip all the cutscene. you get to an immediate framedrop point in the crowded city, but it should be smooth sailing after that. the prologue cutscenes are a good indicator too, tho. average environment load and a full crowd sim to bench your cpu.

[_APA [~sudo]]

Originally posted by episoder:

that was the first thing i posted too. it's too late for that now tho, really.

currently on recommended specs you can get it to compile the shaders in roughly an hour.

that is enough headroom to check ingame performance if you skip all the cutscene. you get to an immediate framedrop point in the crowded city, but it should be smooth sailing after that. the prologue cutscenes are a good indicator too, tho. average environment load and a full crowd sim to bench your cpu.

yeah I did not see but good post, it seems like rush rush rush so it would have been ideal to get the demo up so people can tweak different settings and try it out with difference configurations to see what works best for them and if it even works. But again ND not releasing review copies means they knew the state of the game hence of course they are not going to release a DEMO, but now its open and exposed so maybe for people like many others waiting to purchase can try demo time to time to see if it fits their needs

[Badman]

Then no one would buy it.

[_APA [~sudo]]

Originally posted by Badman:

Then no one would buy it.

I guess everyone bought it already :)

[A]

Originally posted by Badman:

Then no one would buy it.

lmao true

[Vox Maximus]

Just extend that refund window to 3 hours.
For me 2 hours was enough (altho, barely) to conclude that this port is garbage at that moment and receive a refund.

[AmaiAmai]

I can tell you, you don't need a demo...check the Metacritic score:

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-last-of-us-part-i

User scores don't lie, but even the paid media shills gave it a 58. That's all you need to know about a game...

[Vox Maximus]

Originally posted by AmaiAmai:

I can tell you, you don't need a demo...check the Metacritic score:

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-last-of-us-part-i

User scores don't lie, but even the paid media shills gave it a 58. That's all you need to know about a game...

In case of this particular port it doesn't seem to be the case when user/critics score is something to base your decisions upon.
I mean there are players who had completed this game without any issues or with minimal and fully enjoyed it.

Basically, this port is a hit or miss, and because of that demo of some kind totally makes sense, so players can download it, see if it properly works on their PCs and only then decide to buy it or not.

[Hayley]

[Dad0ne]

This would actually benefit people on the fence of buying it. I wish the industry went back to the demo being the norm thing. Luckily steam has a refund period of 2 hours which should be enough to evaluate a game performance on your system.

That said, i know people that were building shaders for more than those 2 hours, so altho it's a step in the right direction in some case is still not enough, hence why demos (and not artifically constructed demos to run well) would be beneficial for everybody.

[GamerGate Valkyrie]

Originally posted by MaxL:

Just extend that refund window to 3 hours.
For me 2 hours was enough (altho, barely) to conclude that this port is garbage at that moment and receive a refund.

you've got refunded of the game?

[AmaiAmai]

Originally posted by MaxL:

Originally posted by AmaiAmai:

I can tell you, you don't need a demo...check the Metacritic score:

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-last-of-us-part-i

User scores don't lie, but even the paid media shills gave it a 58. That's all you need to know about a game...

In case of this particular port it doesn't seem to be the case when user/critics score is something to base your decisions upon.
I mean there are players who had completed this game without any issues or with minimal and fully enjoyed it.

Basically, this port is a hit or miss, and because of that demo of some kind totally makes sense, so players can download it, see if it properly works on their PCs and only then decide to buy it or not.

I have to wonder if they are truthful or lying because the game has hardcoded bugs that would cause crashing and performance loss on any system.

I seriously doubt people start Windows with nothing but basic drivers (and no AV) and play Steam.

As long as they don't do that, it's almost guaranteed there will be crashing from something like hardware acceleration in the browser (all of them have it), Windows permissions issues (UAC on by default), the methods they use to load the next scene (load a seperate window + duplicate all the objects again), etc. -- these aren't errors that can be avoided or mitigated by luck.

Even the base overlay in Nvidia/AMD can crashing -- so that would mean they aren't running even GeForce experience or something like Nvidia Inspector? No Addrenalin on Radeon GPUs?

It just seems highly unlikely, and of course I am skeptical of it. Now they might claim "no major issues" but even that is suspicious since the game does have an input issue as well, esp. if you are using a controller.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, Steam itself can cause crashing... but yes, doubt very much.

[_APA [~sudo]]

Originally posted by AmaiAmai:

Originally posted by MaxL:

In case of this particular port it doesn't seem to be the case when user/critics score is something to base your decisions upon.
I mean there are players who had completed this game without any issues or with minimal and fully enjoyed it.

Basically, this port is a hit or miss, and because of that demo of some kind totally makes sense, so players can download it, see if it properly works on their PCs and only then decide to buy it or not.

I have to wonder if they are truthful or lying because the game has hardcoded bugs that would cause crashing and performance loss on any system.

I seriously doubt people start Windows with nothing but basic drivers (and no AV) and play Steam.

As long as they don't do that, it's almost guaranteed there will be crashing from something like hardware acceleration in the browser (all of them have it), Windows permissions issues (UAC on by default), the methods they use to load the next scene (load a seperate window + duplicate all the objects again), etc. -- these aren't errors that can be avoided or mitigated by luck.

Even the base overlay in Nvidia/AMD can crashing -- so that would mean they aren't running even GeForce experience or something like Nvidia Inspector? No Addrenalin on Radeon GPUs?

It just seems highly unlikely, and of course I am skeptical of it. Now they might claim "no major issues" but even that is suspicious since the game does have an input issue as well, esp. if you are using a controller.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, Steam itself can cause crashing... but yes, doubt very much.

everyone is blaming everyone but none of them are looking into the mirror to see their own faces. Everyone involved is responsible for this mess and no one can be given a pass even though I have sympathy for ND as Sony most likely tell them to shut up still, ND could do a better job at least releasing 'proper apology' and providing a Demo to prevent further damage on their repo because it is indeed their own repo on-line (this will show they actually care about PC Community because I feel like so far we have been treated like orphans and shaits

[Smiter]

Demo release is not a mandatory requirement for games. How is this game supposed to have this requirement?

[_APA [~sudo]]

Originally posted by LuanBK:

Demo release is not a mandatory requirement for games. How is this game supposed to have this requirement?

Never said it was a requirement hence the word "PLEASE" at the end. It is a request, not enforcing a requirement