DLSS vs FSR?

[dresoccer4]

wondering that folk's think of DLSS vs FSR on nvidia cards in this game. which do you prefer?

[C1REX]

DLSS3 name is confusing. Like this game is using DLSS3.1 without frame generation. So what? DLSS 3 or 2?

[-Tr¡Ρ-]

Publicado originalmente por PRAET0R1AN™ ︻デ =ー:

You don't need to be rude dude.

Sorry but I get really frustrated with all these idiots who assert they "know" sh*t" when all they've done is watch Digital Foundry videos

[PRAET0R1AN™]

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Publicado originalmente por PRAET0R1AN™ ︻デ =ー:

You don't need to be rude dude.

Sorry but I get really frustrated with all these idiots who assert they "know" sh*t" when all they've done is watch Digital Foundry videos

No problem, AMD's implementation gave mixed results, even with the ghosting I prefer dlss over fsr 100%.

I haven't checked techpowerup in a little while so I might jump on and see if a newer build is out, I could grab the newest from the nvidia sdk too if I really wanted the most up to date build but it just means downloading the packages when all I want is one dll lol

[Vox Maximus]

Publicado originalmente por C1REX-PL:

DLSS3 name is confusing. Like this game is using DLSS3.1 without frame generation. So what? DLSS 3 or 2?

Without framegen, it's just an upscaler - same as in the DLSS 2

[WeirdScienceX]

Publicado originalmente por C1REX-PL:

DLSS3 name is confusing. Like this game is using DLSS3.1 without frame generation. So what? DLSS 3 or 2?

People get confused with the versioning, no matter if you're on 20,30 or 40 series it uses the same DLL, the latest release version of DLSS being 3.1.11, it will work exactly the same on any RTX card but on 40 series there will be additional framegen option.

[C1REX]

Publicado originalmente por MaxL:

Publicado originalmente por C1REX-PL:

DLSS3 name is confusing. Like this game is using DLSS3.1 without frame generation. So what? DLSS 3 or 2?

Without framegen, it's just an upscaler - same as in the DLSS 2

I understand that. But knowing that this game is using DLSS3.1 do we say it's using DLSS2 or DLSS3?

[Quick☢420™]

Publicado originalmente por C1REX-PL:

Publicado originalmente por MaxL:

Without framegen, it's just an upscaler - same as in the DLSS 2

I understand that. But knowing that this game is using DLSS3.1 do we say it's using DLSS2 or DLSS3?

DLSS 3,because that's what .dll it's using,the option for frame generation is only usable for 40 series. The main dlss algorithms are still the newest 3x versions with all the newest tweaks for ghosting,fps improvements,stality,etc etc. JUST NO FRAME GENERATION.........

[YoLolo69]

Or:
For DLSS 2, all RTX GPU use the same dll file you'll find in the main directory nvngx_dlss.dll. Most recent dll version is v3.1.11. It allow DLSS 2.x in apps.

For DLSS 3 (stupid marketing name), which is just the addition of the Frame Generation, you'll find a specific file in the same directory called nvngx_dlssg.dll (extra 'g' at the end). Most recent dll version is v1.10.0.

[C1REX]

Hardware Unboxed called it DLSS2 version 3.1.
Definition of a confusing name.

[YoLolo69]

DLSS 3 is a stupid marketing name, just saying than a new option called "Frame Generation which only work on RTX40xx GPU is available. They wanted some users who have RTX20xx and RTX30xx to feel subpar and obsolete.

[Vox Maximus]

Well, it just boils down to the fact that DLSS is now a combination of an upscaler and a frame generator. Advertising a game as the one supporting DLSS 3 and then not providing an actual frame generation is a poor and cheaty move.

[WeirdScienceX]

Publicado originalmente por YoLolo69:

Or:
For DLSS 2, all RTX GPU use the same dll file you'll find in the main directory nvngx_dlss.dll. Most recent dll version is v3.1.11. It allow DLSS 2.x in apps.

For DLSS 3 (stupid marketing name), which is just the addition of the Frame Generation, you'll find a specific file in the same directory called nvngx_dlssg.dll (extra 'g' at the end). Most recent dll version is v1.10.0.

Actually 1.1.0 is the most recent version, 1.10.0 is from the Streamline SDK and shouldn't be used for production games as it can cause issues and is subject to change, but this game doesn't support framegen anyway.

[WeirdScienceX]

Publicado originalmente por YoLolo69:

They wanted some users who have RTX20xx and RTX30xx to feel subpar and obsolete.

Not really, it uses features from 4th generation tensor cores which aren't available on older hardware. You could probably hack it to run on older hardware but it wouldn't be a good experience.

[YoLolo69]

Publicado originalmente por WeirdScienceX:

Publicado originalmente por YoLolo69:

They wanted some users who have RTX20xx and RTX30xx to feel subpar and obsolete.

Not really, it uses features from 4th generation tensor cores which aren't available on older hardware. You could probably hack it to run on older hardware but it wouldn't be a good experience.

I'm talking here not about the technology, but about the "DLSS 3" marketing name.
It's a complete different tech than DLSS 2 downscale/upscale method. RTX40xx GPU use exactly the same DLL for this part than other RTX GPU. The new thing is Frame Generation, completely different, with its own DLL. So why mixing those name? Even in game you'll not see a DLSS 3 options, just "Frame Generation". DLSS, which mean Deep Learning Super Sampling sound good for DLSS 2 tech. DLSS 3 is a stupid name for adding a fully separate options "Frame Generation" IMHO...

[WeirdScienceX]

Publicado originalmente por YoLolo69:

Publicado originalmente por WeirdScienceX:

Not really, it uses features from 4th generation tensor cores which aren't available on older hardware. You could probably hack it to run on older hardware but it wouldn't be a good experience.

I'm talking here not about the technology, but about the "DLSS 3" marketing name.
It's a complete different tech than DLSS 2 downscale/upscale method. RTX40xx GPU use exactly the same DLL for this part than other RTX GPU. The new thing is Frame Generation, completely different, with its own DLL. So why mixing those name? Even in game you'll not see a DLSS 3 options, just "Frame Generation". DLSS, which mean Deep Learning Super Sampling sound good for DLSS 2 tech. DLSS 3 is a stupid name for adding a fully separate options "Frame Generation" IMHO...

Ah right, yeah I agree the marketing is stupid, but that's marketing all over for you, I'm surprised they didn't add an X on the end or some other term just to make it more 'appealing'