The Last of Us™ Part I

The Last of Us™ Part I

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slickspidey 2023년 4월 8일 오전 8시 54분
PC gaming is too expensive and demanding compared to PS5
Looking at the digital foundry review and playing the game even after the big patch, it just feels like you need to spend a ridiculous amount in pc specs to have a similar-looking and performing game as the ps5 version. But the console version is already optimized, can play at 4k and unlocked framerate... I'm starting to see less need for pc versions. I have a Ryzen 7 3700x CPU and RTX 3070 GPU btw. The only thing I like is playing with mouse and keyboard, and playing around 80-90fps on pc (which is really hard for me to get right now). Anyone else just considering getting the ps5 version instead of putting up with the pc version?
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Stumpy 2023년 4월 8일 오전 11시 00분 
Pc gaming is expensive for brookies
GoldInfinit7 2023년 4월 8일 오전 11시 01분 
The same story. When PC gets a broken game. Immediately, we get Sony fanboys blabbering about the PS5. Their solution is buy a $500 system to play one game, just because some developers can't be bothered to do a proper PC port. Real nice solution. Instead of fixing the problem we have to make sacrifices to accommodate those who caused the problem. Despite the fact there are plenty of games out there that do not have anywhere close to the issues this game has.
Poot 2023년 4월 8일 오전 11시 06분 
You have to use a controller. Having said that I have seen a kid using a controller beating people on £2k plus sim rigs in Asseto Corso Competizione. Still hate the bloody things though.
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DarkPoolz 2023년 4월 8일 오전 11시 22분 
When it comes to PC ports from Playstation studios, I have learned to be way more careful. They are clearly going for a differentiated strategy. PS5 is their bread and butter while PC ports are just them them trying to get money they left on the table. Publishers in general have found out it is better to push out a poorly tested game and ask for forgiveness later. God of War and Spiderman PC ports were quite good right at launch, but Santa Monica Studios and Insominiac are like the best and most consistent studios among Playstation studios.

I just find less and less reasons to pay full price, pre-order, at launch. The best strategy for single player games is still just wait 6-12 months for beefy patches and discounts. The notable exception I can think of is Capcom. Those mad lads keep blowing my expectations out of the water. I don't mind preordering their games at full price. I know their PC ports won't be terrible from their hot winning streak.
Doc Sigma 2023년 4월 8일 오전 11시 29분 
Im a pc person but the market is consoles and has been for some time. Developers know this and its a better business decision to focus on consoles.
GoldInfinit7 2023년 4월 8일 오전 11시 39분 
Doc Sigma님이 먼저 게시:
Im a pc person but the market is consoles and has been for some time. Developers know this and its a better business decision to focus on consoles.

Most developers are multi-platform. Those who are console exclusive are in the minority. Steam is breaking records in terms of monthly active users and in terms of users are bigger than both PlayStation and Xbox.

Yet, your excuse for Naughty Dog/Sony is an interesting one. As most developers do not use it as an excuse to make a sorry PC port (assuming it's even true). One that seems pretty much unrivaled in how much of a sorry state that it is in.
Lince_SPAIN 2023년 4월 8일 오전 11시 39분 
These are "ports", rarely a port can achieve a much better performance than the original code, imagine if consoles had to do with PC ports aimed at higher end hardware, they would run terribly... that's why games are made for the least powerful hardware in the first place.
KneeKo 2023년 4월 8일 오전 11시 40분 
azogthedefiler25님이 먼저 게시:
Agreed. I've been playing part 2 on the ps5 and it runs like a dream. No stuttering or crashes yet in 14 hours. If this current trend continues ill be done with pc gaming. These 4090 clowns don't realize that pc gaming can't exist with people just buying the most expensive hardware. They're less than 1% but act like everyone has or should have a 40 series card.
Yes. Let me know once your games are properly priced and you don't have to pay for subscriptions to just literally play online.

Stop blaming it on the system, blame it on the actual game. Because you fanbois react like this, it almost feels like ND did this on purpose so people can move to consoles and they can lazily make their games there because they can sell EVERYTHING at 60-70 USD despite lower production values.

Let me know once your indie games don't cost 40 USD any longer, k?
KneeKo 2023년 4월 8일 오전 11시 42분 
Doc Sigma님이 먼저 게시:
Im a pc person but the market is consoles and has been for some time. Developers know this and its a better business decision to focus on consoles.
Yes, because they can literally oversell games and prices don't depreciate as time goes by. They can do this because dumb gamers will buy their games even if it's 20-years-old at 60 USD.

And people are also dumb enough to think that it is required that you pay to play online or even just post/see leaderboards, when you're literally already paying monthly to your ISP.
TheReelReese 2023년 4월 8일 오전 11시 48분 
Consoles have one purpose only and PC will always overshadow them in that department alongside having infinitely more uses... it's a no contest.
CLUTCH 2023년 4월 8일 오전 11시 52분 
Stumpy님이 먼저 게시:
Pc gaming is expensive for brookies

Because they specialize in water? :tank:
C1REX 2023년 4월 8일 오후 12시 01분 
Next generation 5060 will likely eat ps5 for breakfast running games at 30fps and lower than low settings. Just saying. You also pay more for games and online.
Deco 2023년 4월 8일 오후 12시 11분 
For certain games consoles are just better ,but PC gaming overall is obviously better and has a bigger library than any console.
Sunbather 2023년 4월 8일 오후 12시 13분 
OP, your system is just fine. This port, however, is not.

PC gaming is in many ways superior to console gaming. You have more games, you have more complex games, you have better controls, you can adjust controls and graphic settings, you can more easily mod your games, and after all there are many, many, many games that won't ever release to console because they are just too complex or too niche to ever warrant a console release.

I mean no disrespect to any console gamers but the fact remains that when you are a hardcore gamer and you like hardcore games, PC is the only choice.

I bought my system 3 years ago for about 1200 euro (including (!) a 144hz display). I will probably upgrade next year and will "only" pay about 800 euro to get back into highend again. After all, I won't have to buy new SSDs, a new monitor, a new PSU etc.

And finally, I use my computer for multiple things and having a good computer enhances tje whole UX even when you're only surfing or writing or whatever. So it is a win-win-win situation for me. Yes, it is costly. But people also pay 30k for a mediocre car they only use on weekends or buy ♥♥♥♥ they don't need ever. Meanwhile I am using my PC daily and I am ok with paying about 1000 bucks every 3 years or so to make sure I am keeping up with the technology.

In the end, it comes down to what you actually need. When you only game occasionally and you don't need a PC for video editing or management of big files or whatever, by no means go ahead and buy a console. They are great at what they do. They remain current for their whole life cycle and games just get better technologically the older the console games (anyone remembers BLACK for PS2, how could it even run on a PS2?!). But again, if you are an indie gamer or hardcore gamer nothing comes next to a PC. Imagine porting Rimworld to Playstation!
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CLUTCH 2023년 4월 8일 오후 12시 15분 
Sunbather님이 먼저 게시:
OP, your system is just fine. This port, however, is not.

PC gaming is in many ways superior to console gaming. You have more games, you have more complex games, you have better controls, you can adjust controls and graphic settings, you can more easily mod your games, and after all there are many, many, many games that won't ever release to console because they are just too complex when it comes to controls.

I mean no disrespect to any console gamers but the fact remains that when you are a hardcore gamer and you like hardcore games, PC is the only choice.

I bought my system 3 years ago for about 1200 euro (including (!) a 144hz display). I will probably upgrade next year and will "only" pay about 800 euro to get back into highend again. After all, I won't have to buy new SSDs, a new monitor, a new PSU etc.

And finally, I use my computer for multiple things and having a good computer enhances tje whole UX even when you're only surfing or writing or whatever. So it is a win-win-win situation for me. Yes, it is costly. But people also pay 30k for a mediocre car they only use on weekends or buy ♥♥♥♥ they don't need ever. Meanwhile I am using my PC daily and I am ok with paying about 1000 bucks every 3 years or so to make sure I am keeping up with the technology.

Agree with most of this but you could have just ended it with the first sentence.
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