1 bad port don't represent the pc gaming

[X-zeiK.x]

I was very happy. Just talking about the current games, I would cast my revelios and my expelliarmus calmly.
Now, I was happily in RE4. And,of course, many other previous games.

But it came, TLOU, and the headaches came. The crashes, the eyebrows with markers, the loading shaders pushing the cpu's...

Why? Honestly, it's a game of hallways and the graphics are just normal. Well, It is not limited to having a bad time in the game, they also come to real life, Snooping vram on your computer. Now they say that all graphics cards with less than 12 vram are no longer useful.

Don't strain! The 1% of games don't represent the other 99% where developers care about the market and making a good game.
ND developers saying that the game has problems. Naughty ol and nvidia doing hotfix patch to solve the mess quickly (of course, you, put your cpu 100% every time the game has an update or a new nvidia driver) . Steam accepted refunds, for the first time in history, with a game with more than two hours played





And of course, after this filth, if I buy a console it will be the XBOX SERIES X.

[Offence]

Diablo 4 early-beta; 20GB RAM usage, 19GB VRAM usage , these are actual stats if you ever played it or read the news , followed by TLOU i'm starting to see a trend here , Hogwarts Legacy used around 14gigs-16 at 4k aswell.

We will see how this year performs in terms of releases , hopefully future releases will be better optimized but as of now i can't remember a more demanding year in gaming since forever.

[Arc]

Originally posted by zssaK:

1 bad port don't represent the pc gaming

Focusing only on perf and stability issues on release date (not during Early Access)
- Practically any game from Bethesda on their old engine (Elder Scrolls, Flallouts)
- No Man's Sky at release (let alone 80% missing on content)
- Elite Dangerous Odyssey (still not fixed in year 2)
- TLoU
- Diablo 4
- Ark
- PUBG
- Insurgency Sandstorm
- Snowrunner (mostly coop issues)
- Practically every UE4 game that's missing shader pre-comp in DX12/VK
- Dark Souls and w/e else from From Software are always having perf issues or effups in Vsync
- Battlefield 2042 to say the least, let alone older BFs
- Arma series on launch day of every title
- Kingdome Come Deliverance
- Sable (I'm yet to see the streaming stutter fixed)
- Warhammer Darktide
and so on, and so forth

The number of mostly flawless releases is actually smaller than effups like the above list mentions.

[Offence]

Originally posted by Arc:

Originally posted by zssaK:

1 bad port don't represent the pc gaming

Focusing only on perf and stability issues on release date (not during Early Access)
- Practically any game from Bethesda on their old engine (Elder Scrolls, Flallouts)
- No Man's Sky at release (let alone 80% missing on content)
- Elite Dangerous Odyssey (still not fixed in year 2)
- TLoU
- Diablo 4
- Ark
- PUBG
- Insurgency Sandstorm
- Snowrunner (mostly coop issues)
- Practically every UE4 game that's missing shader pre-comp
- Dark Souls and w/e else from From Software are always having perf issues or effups in Vsync
- Battlefield 2042 to say the least, let alone older BFs
- Arma series on launch day of every title
- Kingdome Come Deliverance
- Sable (I'm yet to see the streaming stutter fixed)
- Warhammer Darktide
and so on, and so forth

The number of mostly flawless releases is actually smaller than effups like the above list mentions.

Oh yea my bad I forgot about my fave and profilic game BF 2042 , still played it to this day on my late rtx 2080ti with low settings to make it work smooth.

BF V actually started great at release optimization wise but a few dlc's into it's lifespan the whole optimization thing tanked so hard we we're barely able to run it..

[Lord Winter]

-Elden Ring shaders stutter during game (still not fixed)
-Callisto Protocol unplayable at launch
-Dead Space traversal stutter for people with not top tier hardware
-Sackboy huge shaders stutter during game (at release)
-Hitman had DX12 stutters at release

Just to list a few. Since DX12, nearly every release is plagued by issues.

And this is big AAA games lot of people buy, not like side indie unoptimized games.

[MrPlowjoy]

Originally posted by -=🗲Offence🗲=-:

Diablo 4 early-beta; 20GB RAM usage, 19GB VRAM usage , these are actual stats if you ever played it or read the news

We can all read Reddit and copy/paste specific posts..

https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/11weko5/diablo_4_earlybeta_20gb_ram_usage_19gb_vram_usage/

It's got a huge memory leak.

"Going with you are playing on high textures. Massive memory leak issue. It’s been around for a while, systems with up to 64 gigs of ram end up having issues with high texture and more."

This is most certainly not "normal", so trying to paint a picture of 2023 containing PC games demanding 20GB of VRAM and 20GB of RAM is nonsense.

[Offence]

Originally posted by MrPlowjoy:

Originally posted by -=🗲Offence🗲=-:

Diablo 4 early-beta; 20GB RAM usage, 19GB VRAM usage , these are actual stats if you ever played it or read the news

We can all read Reddit and copy/paste specific posts..

https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/11weko5/diablo_4_earlybeta_20gb_ram_usage_19gb_vram_usage/

It's got a huge memory leak.

"Going with you are playing on high textures. Massive memory leak issue. It’s been around for a while, systems with up to 64 gigs of ram end up having issues with high texture and more."

This is most certainly not "normal", so trying to paint a picture of 2023 containing PC games demanding 20GB of VRAM and 20GB of RAM is nonsense.

Read the entire list not just one title , also you are on the board of a game that goes above 16gigs of vram. Btw

[kiteless 凧無し]

2023 has had an insane amount of bad ports already and it’s only April

Are you living in an alternate timeline where this is the only bad Pc port this year?

[X-zeiK.x]

Ok, Well, following the advice of the some gurus. I hope that after each release of the aforementioned games, You all would have thrown your gpu in the trash to buy another (or the xbox series x). Instead of waiting for them to fix the aforementioned games.

[kiteless 凧無し]

Originally posted by zssaK:

Ok, Well, following the advice of the some gurus. I hope that after each release of the aforementioned games, You all would have thrown your gpu in the trash to buy another (or the xbox series x). Instead of waiting for them to fix the aforementioned games.

Id get a ps5 over an Xbox. Sony has a few exclusives, there is nothing on the Xbox that you can’t buy on pc

[X-zeiK.x]

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

Originally posted by zssaK:

Ok, Well, following the advice of the some gurus. I hope that after each release of the aforementioned games, You all would have thrown your gpu in the trash to buy another (or the xbox series x). Instead of waiting for them to fix the aforementioned games.

Id get a ps5 over an Xbox. Sony has a few exclusives, there is nothing on the Xbox that you can’t buy on pc

aaah, my friend.
Well, after this release, I really want to buy six or seven PS5. Yes, yes.

[Dad0ne]

The fact is that we've seen a good port, and it's god of war. So if god of war came out nearly perfect from the get go, why can't other ports do the same? It's literally the same technology.
Pc games will always have some bugs here and there. It's inevitable when you think all the enormous amount of different configs there are out there. But this is a case of devs simply being too lazy to actually make their game run in a decent state, and not just on release as there are plenty games that remain unplayable for the first 2/3 months. How many games have we seen being released this past few months with literally no optimization whatsoever?

Another user here made fun of me because i was spamming "BuT WE hAVe DLss/FsR!!1!!1" type of message. To me it's uncanny what is happening: devs can now rely on decent upscaling techs on pc (it's not a console thing anymore), so they are stopping to bother with actual optimization. Why would they waste money actually QCing their game throughly when they can simply turn dlss/fsr on and nearly double your fps in most scenarios (or at least hit on average the 60 fps mark).

Im telling you, it's only about getting worse, at least when it comes down to AAA games. Try to remember the last 3 AAA games that released without any major issue in the past 3 years. You can maybe count them on the fingers of a single hand, if any.

[rBose]

Lmao the classic apologist

[X-zeiK.x]

Originally posted by Dad0ne:

The fact is that we've seen a good port, and it's god of war. So if god of war came out nearly perfect from the get go, why can't other ports do the same?

True, I don't understand how they didn't take more care of the launch of their most representative game. That's all.

[MrPlowjoy]

Originally posted by -=🗲Offence🗲=-:

Originally posted by MrPlowjoy:

We can all read Reddit and copy/paste specific posts..

https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/11weko5/diablo_4_earlybeta_20gb_ram_usage_19gb_vram_usage/

It's got a huge memory leak.

"Going with you are playing on high textures. Massive memory leak issue. It’s been around for a while, systems with up to 64 gigs of ram end up having issues with high texture and more."

This is most certainly not "normal", so trying to paint a picture of 2023 containing PC games demanding 20GB of VRAM and 20GB of RAM is nonsense.

Read the entire list not just one title , also you are on the board of a game that goes above 16gigs of vram. Btw

Any game could hit higher levels of VRAM, based on a multitude of resolution and fidelity settings, let alone a game client that's clearly a mess of memory leaks.

Does it hit 16GB VRAM at 1080p/Low settings?

So many variables, it's impossible to pin down and generalise in this way.

[Dad0ne]

Originally posted by zssaK:

Originally posted by Dad0ne:

The fact is that we've seen a good port, and it's god of war. So if god of war came out nearly perfect from the get go, why can't other ports do the same?

True, I don't understand how they didn't take more care of the launch of their most representative game. That's all.

Because Naughty dog doesn't need pc gamers to make money. They already have made their money with this franchise. Pc gamers are the last bit of juice to squeeze out for them. They do not care. Otherwise they would've pulled this game off steam themselves and apologize (and not """""apologize""""" saying you need new gpu drivers) and actually work to fix the cpu usage issue in this game, which is affecting EVERYBODY, and the numerous amount of crashes. Instead they decide (as per industry standard of nowadays) to use us that bought the game on release like beta tester, and make the work they should've done themselves prior release. It is OBVIOUS why there were no early review copies sent out. Because they knew in what sorry state this game was laying in.

I swear to god it's like some of these game devs are trying to make piracy feel like the right thing to do.