The Last of Us™ Part I

The Last of Us™ Part I

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Sunbather Mar 29, 2023 @ 1:49pm
CPU sucks 90 watts of power despite limit of 65 watts!!!
What the heck! I have NEVER seen a game do this to my CPU, even the ones that are very taxing on my poor old Ryzen 3600 like Cyberpunk 2077.

Now, while compiling the shaders, my CPU usage is at 100% which I expected. What I certainly did not expect is for my CPU to suddenly sucks 90 watts despite the official limit being 65 watts (and it is actually CAPPED at that).

The CPU is not overclocked. In fact, overclocking the CPU in games like CP 2077 still makes the TDP not go over 65 watts.

What the ♥♥♥♥? Is SONY trying to kill my PC so that I buy a Playstation or what is this?
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[-iD-] Mar 29, 2023 @ 1:51pm 
With the Ryzen 5 3600, AMD lists the official TDP of the processor as 65 W. AMD also runs a feature called Package Power Tracking, or PPT, which allows the processor to turbo where possible to a new power value – for 65 W processors that new value is 88 W
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15787/amd-ryzen-5-3600-review-amazons-best-selling-cpu/2
Arc Mar 29, 2023 @ 1:52pm 
PPT, PBO, etc.

The TDP can be exceeded when turboing, and the game won't in any way shape or form be able to access BIOS settings which are setting certain offsets while hard limits are given by motherboard and ICs in the CPU package.

EDIT: Ninja'd
Last edited by Arc; Mar 29, 2023 @ 1:52pm
Sunbather Mar 29, 2023 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by -iD-:
With the Ryzen 5 3600, AMD lists the official TDP of the processor as 65 W. AMD also runs a feature called Package Power Tracking, or PPT, which allows the processor to turbo where possible to a new power value – for 65 W processors that new value is 88 W
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15787/amd-ryzen-5-3600-review-amazons-best-selling-cpu/2

So basically what I am saying... 65 watts is official TDP, no game ever made my TDP go over 65 watts, well maybe once in a while 68 watts; The Last of Us makes it suck 90 watts all of a sudden? WHILE COMPILING SHADERS?!!!
[-iD-] Mar 29, 2023 @ 1:58pm 
it uses your entire cpu, including instruction sets that rarely get used you will see it jump into turbo mode. i dont use amd but disable PPT if you can in bios if you dont want it to turbo for some reason.
Sunbather Mar 29, 2023 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by Arc:
PPT, PBO, etc.

The TDP can be exceeded when turboing, and the game won't in any way shape or form be able to access BIOS settings which are setting certain offsets while hard limits are given by motherboard and ICs in the CPU package.

EDIT: Ninja'd

I know. But that doesn't change the fact that this is unprecedented on my system. Heck, even overclocked and 80% usage on Cyberpunk 2077 the game remained at 65 TPD, so wtf?
xxCOOPSxx Mar 29, 2023 @ 2:01pm 
As others have said this is the cause of the turbo function something both Intel and AMD CPU have in them. So you have the TDP for the stock clock value of the CPU and then second TDP value which relates to the turbo performance of the CPU. This has been the case for a very long time now and this is a hardware function that allows the CPU to do this as long as the CPU is within certain limits related to power and thermals. So if CPU is high demand and its safe for it to do so, it can increase clocks beyond stock limits to improve application delivery. Once the CPU demand decreases then CPU will reduce back to normal levels. All fairly standard these days considering how long this technology has existed in CPU now.
Ultradad Mar 29, 2023 @ 2:02pm 
I mean that's how computers work. It's compiling shaders - it's going to max out the CPU. Unless you have inadequate cooling there's nothing to be concerned about.
Arc Mar 29, 2023 @ 2:06pm 
5600X on my board has PPT of 76W while being 65W TDP part.

Study your UEFI settings mate.
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Date Posted: Mar 29, 2023 @ 1:49pm
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