pls remove cpu avx instruction !

[Santo Ananás]

pls

[Kaimanic]

The game needs AVX2, like Uncharted. Everything under an i7 4770k doesn't work.
But it's weird, that in all this time no other game used it.

[Amigo500]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kaimanic:

The game needs AVX2, like Uncharted. Everything under an i7 4770k doesn't work.
But it's weird, that in all this time no other game used it.

youre wrong the game runs on an i52500k not great but it runs. it only needs avx 1.

[Sledge Hammer!]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Santo Ananás:

pls

Trust me, it's a losing battle. I held on to my Q9650 Core2Quad CPU for far too long myself. Sure, on paper it performed as well or better than a lot of i5 CPUs. But it lacked those crucial instructions that are becoming standard on almost all modern games.

[Kaimanic]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Amigo500:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kaimanic:

The game needs AVX2, like Uncharted. Everything under an i7 4770k doesn't work.
But it's weird, that in all this time no other game used it.

youre wrong the game runs on an i52500k not great but it runs. it only needs avx 1.

You're right! They brought AVX1 support for Uncharted with update 3!
So there is a good chance, that they also bring an AVX1 update for this game.

[CJM]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ramiro:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Santo Ananás:

i7 990x rtx2080 super 24g ram

it's bad but i still trust without avx instruction

Sadly, it that to you to upgrade. You have a really good GPU, is weird that you are sayin that you are poor, but I have no context. Your CPU is really old and holding back your GPU

Any modern CPU will help you, even a Ryzen 3 or Intel i3.

I don't believe the benchmarks for the Intel i3's.

The i3-12100 has 5MB of L2 cache, which shouldn't give that much benefit unless the Quad Cores were starved for cache.

Otherwise, the benchmarks are showing that the Quad Core i3's are benching close to 8-Core/ 16 Thread weight, which is rather absurd. I think Intel has just optimized their threads for the benchmarks.

An i7-990x should be enough to power an RTX 2080 Super. I'd say it is the lack of AVX holding it back.

[kgkong]

You don't wanna remove this requirement or remove the CPUs that can use AVX/AVX2 and newer versions of AVX as, as much as these feature sets put heavier workloads on the PC, they result in faster processing when a task can make use of AVX versus the default generic multi-thread/multi-core processing. AVX allows for better parallel processing as well, and is the bigger reason why the workload is harder. It's not just assigning a task to a core or thread and moving on to the next once it's done. It's assigning several tasks to multiple cores and threads to resolve more complex and heavier calculations.

Again, yes, it's more demanding on CPUs, however, it's working as designed and your CPUs with AVX feature set are suppose to get worked up when you run AVX processes.

[Arc]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kaimanic:

The game needs AVX2, like Uncharted. Everything under an i7 4770k doesn't work.
But it's weird, that in all this time no other game used it.

Didn't CP2077 have AVX2 before they patched it out ?

Destiny had AVX but not sure if 2 or base.

And as the other user potinted out, TLoU only "needs" AVX support.
But who knows, it might still use AVX2 when detected.

[Arc]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von CJM:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ramiro:

Sadly, it that to you to upgrade. You have a really good GPU, is weird that you are sayin that you are poor, but I have no context. Your CPU is really old and holding back your GPU

Any modern CPU will help you, even a Ryzen 3 or Intel i3.

I don't believe the benchmarks for the Intel i3's.

The i3-12100 has 5MB of L2 cache, which shouldn't give that much benefit unless the Quad Cores were starved for cache.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4670vs867/Intel-i3-12100F-vs-Intel-i7-990X

i3s are what i5s used to be, so it's no longer the true "low-end". This one boosts to 4.3Ghz under PL2 limit and given only 90W (easy to cool) you can just have it sustained OC and outperform the old i7.
The only downside is lower thread count indeed.


Honestly there's simply no reason to "demand" backward compatibility of 12 year old HW for when AVX exist for more than a decade.
People should really be realistic about their HW.

[Amigo500]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kaimanic:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Amigo500:

youre wrong the game runs on an i52500k not great but it runs. it only needs avx 1.

You're right! They brought AVX1 support for Uncharted with update 3!
So there is a good chance, that they also bring an AVX1 update for this game.

it runs since release on my old i5 no need for an update. the vram ingame is wrong too. for old cpu like me its good to turn up tectures etc so i have on both cpu and gpu around 70-90 usage. no bottleneck just a bunch of brats that dgont know much of how a pc works.

[WeirdScienceX]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Amigo500:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kaimanic:

The game needs AVX2, like Uncharted. Everything under an i7 4770k doesn't work.
But it's weird, that in all this time no other game used it.

youre wrong the game runs on an i52500k not great but it runs. it only needs avx 1.

It's compiled using AVX2

[CJM]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Arc:

i3s are what i5s used to be, so it's no longer the true "low-end". This one boosts to 4.3Ghz under PL2 limit and given only 90W (easy to cool) you can just have it sustained OC and outperform the old i7.
The only downside is lower thread count indeed.

Okay, so it is a thermal issue with the Turbo frequencies on older i7 processors. That is starting to make some sense.

I still don't fully buy the benchmarks though. The i3-12100 should be on par with an i7-990x, not twice as fast...
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4670vs867vs2874/Intel-i3-12100F-vs-Intel-i7-990X-vs-Intel-i7-7700K

[seAzon]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von breadman:

omg

if you're still on a non-avx cpu then that pc needs to go in the dumpster

In the country where I'm from, it's quite problematic to update the PC. $100 for a processor is literally a month's salary. And if you change the processor, you will need to change the motherboard and the rest. My Xeon X3470 processor handles RDR2 and Cyberpunk, I don't understand why you need to add AVX instructions to the game, this is nonsense. Apparently I'll never play Last of Us, and I'm offended.

[Weird Potato]

Please update your potato.
Also Steam will no longer support Windows 7 soon LOL. Deal with it.

[seAzon]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Weird Potato:

Please update your potato.
Also Steam will no longer support Windows 7 soon LOL. Deal with it.

Hey, I'm using Windows 10. I've been saving for 8 months to buy myself an RTX 3060. Most of the games are flying on my PC, I don't understand why I can't play because of some nonsense.

[episoder]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von seAzon:

In the country where I'm from, it's quite problematic to update the PC. $100 for a processor is literally a month's salary. And if you change the processor, you will need to change the motherboard and the rest. My Xeon X3470 processor handles RDR2 and Cyberpunk, I don't understand why you need to add AVX instructions to the game, this is nonsense. Apparently I'll never play Last of Us, and I'm offended.

apparently the safe mode executable runs without avx. but that cpu is so old. it's just a low end part for this game. it won't play nice. so... be happy you don't get a chance to struggle thru the game with 30 fps.