What kind of pc is the PS5 equivalent to?

[dig_ut!!]

Don’t exactly know. Just curious.

[C1REX]

Check PC equivalent of ps4 and how many ps4 games it can run. It’s not apple to apple comparison.

[CJM]

The MinisForum HX99G seems to be targetted as a PlayStation 5 kitted "Gaming" Mini PC.

Codenamed: Neptune, presumably to encourage SteamOS configurations (Neptune drivers).

Ryzen 9 6900HX (8-Core / 16 Thread)
Radeon RX 6600M (8GB VRAM)
16GB DDR5 4200
512GB NVMe SSD

[user_111]

Автор сообщения: dig_ut!!

Don’t exactly know. Just curious.

A pos Alienware ‘gaming laptop’

[WeirdScienceX]

The problem with these it's equivalent arguements is that they don't take into account VRAM, the PS5 uses a weird configuration it has 16 Gb DDR 6 Vram and only 512 Mb RAM.

Most cards don't have the equivalent VRAM until you go to the higher end 3090/4090 and the higher end AMD cards 6800/XT, 6900XT, 6950XT, etc

[CJM]

Автор сообщения: WeirdScienceX

The problem with these it's equivalent arguements is that they don't take into account VRAM, the PS5 uses a weird configuration it has 16 Gb DDR 6 Vram and only 512 Mb RAM.

Most cards don't have the equivalent VRAM until you go to the higher end 3090/4090 and the higher end AMD cards 6800/XT, 6900XT, 6950XT, etc

Does the system need more RAM or VRAM?

Right now The Last of Us seems to be optimized for more RAM than VRAM. This leads to high throughput on the CPU, causing high CPU loads.

It could also be aggressive DirectStorage causing excessive storage drive seeking,...

[Precious]

The PS5 runs this game at native 4k with a mix of high - ultra settings at 40 - 45 FPS with VRR on. To achieve the same on PC you need at least a 3080Ti. Pure spec wise the PS5 is equivalent to a 2070 Super, but that doesn't take into account the far superior optimization that the PS5 receives in most games.

[C1REX]

Автор сообщения: CJM

Автор сообщения: WeirdScienceX

The problem with these it's equivalent arguements is that they don't take into account VRAM, the PS5 uses a weird configuration it has 16 Gb DDR 6 Vram and only 512 Mb RAM.

Most cards don't have the equivalent VRAM until you go to the higher end 3090/4090 and the higher end AMD cards 6800/XT, 6900XT, 6950XT, etc

Does the system need more RAM or VRAM?

Right now The Last of Us seems to be optimized for more RAM than VRAM. This leads to high throughput on the CPU, causing high CPU loads.

It could also be aggressive DirectStorage causing excessive storage drive seeking,...

PC works differently. Ps5 can load data directly from nvme to GPU. PC needs to decompress data first using CPU power. This can cause different type of problems.

Ps4 has only 8GB of shared memory and can run games like Horizon, RE4, The Last of Us.

Looking how consoles are designed and how they went into GDDR6 instead of way cheaper DDR4 suggests that VRAM would be more beneficial for games.

[episoder]

Автор сообщения: WeirdScienceX

The problem with these it's equivalent arguements is that they don't take into account VRAM, the PS5 uses a weird configuration it has 16 Gb DDR 6 Vram and only 512 Mb RAM.

Most cards don't have the equivalent VRAM until you go to the higher end 3090/4090 and the higher end AMD cards 6800/XT, 6900XT, 6950XT, etc

well... the 512 MB are reserved for the OS and the system kernel. the 16 gigs are split into 2 gigs for the OS and 14 gigs available for the game.

you can then split this into gameplay and video memory sections. depending on the game you could run that gameplay in as low as 2 gigs. which would be 12 gigs for graphics. a moderate medium title with lots of moving parts and ai and software computed stuff i would assume you get around 4 gigs for the game and 10 gigs for graphics.

also loading assets on the ps5 is different too. on the pc you have to load the stuff from your ssd into ram and then move it to gpu. on the ps5 you load the assets directly into the video memory. this is what makes all the difference in loading times.

in asset streaming scenario on pc this would require preloading assets and could result in stuttering if the assets take too long to be loaded onto the gpu.

right now the game seems to do pretty good preloading on pc, at the expense of big memory requirements and a busy cpu. I get it. gotta figure out the limit tho. whether preload or general workload, it occassionally breaks somewhere.

[Marmo]

Автор сообщения: dig_ut!!

What kind of pc is the PS5 equivalent to?

It doesn't matter when the PC port is garbage.

[episoder]

Автор сообщения: Chumbaceus

Автор сообщения: dig_ut!!

What kind of pc is the PS5 equivalent to?

It doesn't matter when the PC port is garbage.

can we stop with that uneducated crap pls? you have no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idea what a task this is, to port a ps5 game to pc and make it run smooth on medium hardware.

[mjuarbe19]

the CPU is a Zen2 Ryzen 8c 16t at around 3.5ghz the closes to match that is a Ryzen 3700x but performance wise its closer to a Ryzen 3600. so it might be the PS5 CPU is based off a Laptop design. GPU is where is gets tricky its RDNA2 base so RX 6000 series. spec wise on paper its a tad more powerful then a 6600xt. but developers claim it can use up to 12GB VRAM so it puts it closer to 6700xt territory. so its possible it has the performance of a 6600 but the VRAM usage of a 6700xt. and it has 16GB of shared GDDR6 memory

[Ivylifestyle]

Автор сообщения: Brilliant Pebbles

Gamers Nexus did a PS5 vs PC deep dive, they reckon the PS5 GPU is equivalent to a 1070.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCvE4JGJujk

Ps5 can do this game in native 4k. PCs can surpass the ps5 of course but it is far more than a 1070/166ti. It also doesnt have to run windows or bloat. Imo most people are not rocking 2080s and above, so the PS5 does outperform them

[mjuarbe19]

Автор сообщения: Beloretral

The PS5 runs this game at native 4k with a mix of high - ultra settings at 40 - 45 FPS with VRR on. To achieve the same on PC you need at least a 3080Ti. Pure spec wise the PS5 is equivalent to a 2070 Super, but that doesn't take into account the far superior optimization that the PS5 receives in most games.

where do you get Native 4K from Naught dog confirmed PS5 version runs at 1440p and 60fps as well as Digital foundry also confirmed it as well

[mjuarbe19]

Автор сообщения: Ivylifestyle

Автор сообщения: Brilliant Pebbles

Gamers Nexus did a PS5 vs PC deep dive, they reckon the PS5 GPU is equivalent to a 1070.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCvE4JGJujk

Ps5 can do this game in native 4k. PCs can surpass the ps5 of course but it is far more than a 1070/166ti. It also doesnt have to run windows or bloat. Imo most people are not rocking 2080s and above, so the PS5 does outperform them

the PS5 runs this game natively at 1440p on PS5 where are you getting 4K from

[episoder]

Автор сообщения: mjuarbe19

Автор сообщения: Ivylifestyle

Ps5 can do this game in native 4k. PCs can surpass the ps5 of course but it is far more than a 1070/166ti. It also doesnt have to run windows or bloat. Imo most people are not rocking 2080s and above, so the PS5 does outperform them

the PS5 runs this game natively at 1440p on PS5 where are you getting 4K from

there were options for 4k and 30 fps for prior naughty games. or in general.