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bla Jun 8, 2023 @ 11:48am

Last of Us Part 1 is good but Don't play Part 2

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(Also, I played on Playstation 5 and both games played like butter with great graphics)

I loved Last of Us 1, but Last of Us 2 was very interesting to play and not in a positive way. I was seriously enjoying the story about Joel's death and Ellie trying to avenge his death, and Ellie's romance on the side. It could have been one of the best games ever.
Unfortunately, towards the end, I was forced to play as Abby. I really liked Joel as a character, and when Abby killed him, I, of course, developed a serious dislike for Abby. Furthermore, Abby is just a pissed-off, unlikable character in general. Thus, I really didn't want to play as Abby and found myself just letting zombies kill me because I wanted to return to playing as Ellie, and it was more enjoyable to watch her die than to try to help her survive.
I tried to play it out as Abby, hoping it would return to Ellie at any moment, but hours went by, and it still made me play as Abby until eventually I just said, "Screw it. I'm not enjoying this game at all, and I stopped playing altogether. I've played almost every rpg there is, and there is only one other game I have stopped playing halfway through. Thus, Last of Us 2 is one of the only games I rate as a 0 out of 10 since it was so unenjoyable that I didn't even finish it. The lesson here is NEVER FORCE THE PLAYER TO PLAY AS AN UNLIKABLE ANTAGONSIST, PLEASE.
After, being so disappointed with Part 2, I don't recommend either of these games.

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Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:

TLOU2's story is error-strewn and completely illogical. Whilst the revenge premise is a perfectly good angle to explore and how Joel deserved to die for his actions in some people's eyes, the way it is told is absolutely catastrophic and of a standard not even a middle school teenager would concoct.

Ellie is basically seeking revenge and she doesn't ask why at all through the entire game. She killed 100 men, women and animals, yet she never asks Abby on 3 occasions as to why she killed Joel and why her life was spared. You would've thought Abby would've asked Ellie at least once why she was coming after her after being spared or had justified her actions.

It is easily one of the most calamitous pieces of writing ever seen in any form of entertainment media. The amount of flashbacks and character changes just gets exhausting and by the end, I ended up hating everyone and being in a worse position than square one. They done Ellie so dirty through unrealistic and atrocious writing because the plot was hanging on by a thread the whole time and they couldn't find an out. All they had to do was make aware of why Joel was killed and then a choice in whether to seek revenge anyway as part of the barbaric way he was executed. Isn't hard yet the writers could've even find that alternative standpoint.

It's such a shame because the game is one of the most technically impressive I have ever seen with some staggering visuals, detail and animations. The writers made a complete mess of this so much so, even the TV series may get a total overhaul. Abby was a decent character and her portion of the game was probably the better but the way it was clubbed together was a mess.

Never let Anita Sarkeesian influence a game ever again because the end result is a whacky, illogical travesty.

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LeftIsBest-James has The Last of Us™ Part I

Jun 13, 2023 @ 11:46am

OP chose the confirmation-bias answer because he saw the argument turning against him.
Instead of letting the troll run.

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halbermensch999 has The Last of Us™ Part I

Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:03pm

Originally posted by LeftIsBest-James:
Originally posted by halbermensch999:
It's the cycle of violence. And it's what they learn from in the end of game 2 right?
You gotta break it.

But ND had me playing Joel for Part-1 killing EVERYONE he met.
(unless they killed themselves first.)

As much as I like the concept of Part2 (and I will buy it), you've trained the gamer to kill everything .. then go 'high minded' later?

I see Abby killing Tommy and razing the dam community.
I see Ellie killing Abby.
Part-1 trained me to take no prisoners.

Society does that as well, join the military, kill them in large numbers. Later on the hangover will come, the PTSD, the self-harm etc etc

Far Cry 5 has this conditioning as well, the cult brainwashes the player into becoming a killing machine and he or she ends up turning the guns on their own side as well.

Maybe we should think a bit deeper..

I'm sure they will built upon lessons from 2 to the third game.

#62

Sharkon

Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:26pm

TLOU p2 is the better game in every way. it's just too long.

Last edited by Sharkon; Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:36pm

#63

halbermensch999 has The Last of Us™ Part I

Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:34pm

Originally posted by Nokrahs:
TLOU is the better game in every way. it's just too long.

The first game is too long?

#64

Sharkon

Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:36pm

Originally posted by halbermensch999:
Originally posted by Nokrahs:
TLOU is the better game in every way. it's just too long.

The first game is too long?

Part II of course :) okay, edit inc.

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LeftIsBest-James has The Last of Us™ Part I

Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:38pm

Originally posted by halbermensch999:
Originally posted by LeftIsBest-James:

But ND had me playing Joel for Part-1 killing EVERYONE he met.
(unless they killed themselves first.)

As much as I like the concept of Part2 (and I will buy it), you've trained the gamer to kill everything .. then go 'high minded' later?

I see Abby killing Tommy and razing the dam community.
I see Ellie killing Abby.
Part-1 trained me to take no prisoners.

Society does that as well, join the military, kill them in large numbers. Later on the hangover will come, the PTSD, the self-harm etc etc

Far Cry 5 has this conditioning as well, the cult brainwashes the player into becoming a killing machine and he or she ends up turning the guns on their own side as well.

Maybe we should think a bit deeper..

I'm sure they will built upon lessons from 2 to the third game.

I'm not saying they're right. I'm not condoning violence over 'a better option'.
I like the idea of rehabilitation and reconciliation I just hope it's well executed in Part-2.

But we have to recognize 'momentum', they expect me to play 'wrath of god' for one game expect me to change gear .. or even shift the gears without notice and spare Abby... minutes before the end of Part-2.

Disclaimer:
I haven't played the game, I've only watched some playthrough clips.
I don't want watch more, cos I really want to enjoy it when they port it.

Last edited by LeftIsBest-James; Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:39pm

#66

Litwick

Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:50pm

Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
Never let Anita Sarkeesian influence a game ever again because the end result is a whacky, illogical travesty.

Is Anita in the room with us right now?

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LeftIsBest-James has The Last of Us™ Part I

Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:52pm

Originally posted by Steve:
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
Never let Anita Sarkeesian influence a game ever again because the end result is a whacky, illogical travesty.
Is Anita in the room with us right now?

GenX trapped in the past.

Last edited by LeftIsBest-James; Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:53pm

#68

👾Rampertumskin👨‍💻☣ has The Last of Us™ Part I

Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:52pm

Originally posted by Jake:
part 2 =
gameplay 10/10
story 6.5/10

story sjw scum. 1/10

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LeftIsBest-James has The Last of Us™ Part I

Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:57pm

Originally posted by 👾Rampertumskin👾:
Originally posted by Jake:
part 2 =
gameplay 10/10
story 6.5/10
story sjw scum. 1/10

You sound a bit triggered.
Do muscles threaten you. Kinda sounds weak and Beta.

Last edited by LeftIsBest-James; Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:59pm

#70

halbermensch999 has The Last of Us™ Part I

Jun 13, 2023 @ 1:07pm

Originally posted by 👾Rampertumskin👾:
Originally posted by Jake:
part 2 =
gameplay 10/10
story 6.5/10
story sjw scum. 1/10

Poor trolling, but always fun when for instance being gay is worse than people killing each other constantly
#priorities

#71

Jedimindtrickonyou has The Last of Us™ Part I

Jun 13, 2023 @ 1:13pm

Originally posted by LeftIsBest-James:
Originally posted by 👾Rampertumskin👾:
story sjw scum. 1/10

You sound a bit triggered.
Do muscles threaten you. Kinda sounds weak and Beta.

It’s not a proper TLOU P2 discussion without weak, angry republican gamers using the same tired talking points as always. If you engage them in discussion, you get one of about three dollar store arguments that they always use about why they have a problem with gay/trans characters in games.

Last edited by Jedimindtrickonyou; Jun 13, 2023 @ 1:13pm

#72

Vox Maximus Jun 13, 2023 @ 10:15pm

Originally posted by Lewis:
What made The Last of us such a great game? - for me It was the story, and characters

No matter how good the graphics are, how great the game-play is, I'll never acknowledge Part 2 because of how terrible the story was.

Story of Part 2 is outstanding. Stop spilling nonsense.

#73

CLUTCH Jun 14, 2023 @ 8:45am

Originally posted by galan:
"not allowing Ellie to die for her cause as she wanted to"

Where is this stated ? When was Ellie ever asked ? When was Joel told she wanted to die ?

Really? At then end of the first game. Did you play it?

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CLUTCH Jun 14, 2023 @ 8:51am

Originally posted by jedimindtrickonyou:
Originally posted by LeftIsBest-James:

You sound a bit triggered.
Do muscles threaten you. Kinda sounds weak and Beta.

It’s not a proper TLOU P2 discussion without weak, angry republican gamers using the same tired talking points as always. If you engage them in discussion, you get one of about three dollar store arguments that they always use about why they have a problem with gay/trans characters in games.

Most (NOT ALL) wanted an extension of TLOU1 after they waited so many years for a sequel. It has nothing to do with gay/trans characters in the game.

YOU need to get over that.

They didn't want Joel to die (especially so early) in the game if at all.

Which dollar store argument is this?

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