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New to AC, Xbox or Dualshock?
I have both Dualshock and an Xbox style controller but I don't know which one to use when I play AC6, any advice or recommendations would be highly appreciated.
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Try both. Use the one you're more comfortable with.

IMO, use the one that has paddle buttons.
breadman 12. Aug. 2023 um 5:27 
keyboard and mouse
kbm
Chelly 12. Aug. 2023 um 7:39 
Black mage is correct I had no idea how useful side paddle was till i played elden ring and using it for dpad functions
I will be using Xbox controller since (a) it's what I'm used to and (b) the in-game button prompts will almost definitely be Xbox (likely with no option for PS inputs). But ultimately it comes down to preference.
Isn't the PS one better for clawgrip? Tested the Xbox one on Souls games and could not manipulate both left stick and the cross as easily as with the Dualshock.
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Isn't the PS one better for clawgrip? Tested the Xbox one on Souls games and could not manipulate both left stick and the cross as easily as with the Dualshock.

You probably don't actually want to clawgrip in AC6, and I believe you shouldn't have to in order to play the game optimally. FromSoftware wants the controls in AC6 to be intuitive, and the default controls are surprisingly decent. Not perfect, but you have to consider what kind of hardware most people have.
Each of the 4-bumpers and triggers have been mapped to each weapon slot. So if you claw grip to boost (face buttons), you're potentially giving up a weapon unless you make it really awkward for yourself and use your ring finger for RT/R2.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von ZTL-Altima:
Isn't the PS one better for clawgrip? Tested the Xbox one on Souls games and could not manipulate both left stick and the cross as easily as with the Dualshock.

You probably don't actually want to clawgrip in AC6, and I believe you shouldn't have to in order to play the game optimally. FromSoftware wants the controls in AC6 to be intuitive, and the default controls are surprisingly decent. Not perfect, but you have to consider what kind of hardware most people have.
Each of the 4-bumpers and triggers have been mapped to each weapon slot. So if you claw grip to boost (face buttons), you're potentially giving up a weapon unless you make it really awkward for yourself and use your ring finger for RT/R2.
I know but priorities will present themselves and be able to access everything must be accounted for. No need to hold claw, just fluid transitioning between grips. That cross far away from the left index bugs me too much.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von ZTL-Altima:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Blackmage:

You probably don't actually want to clawgrip in AC6, and I believe you shouldn't have to in order to play the game optimally. FromSoftware wants the controls in AC6 to be intuitive, and the default controls are surprisingly decent. Not perfect, but you have to consider what kind of hardware most people have.
Each of the 4-bumpers and triggers have been mapped to each weapon slot. So if you claw grip to boost (face buttons), you're potentially giving up a weapon unless you make it really awkward for yourself and use your ring finger for RT/R2.
I know but priorities will present themselves and be able to access everything must be accounted for. No need to hold claw, just fluid transitioning between grips. That cross far away from the left index bugs me too much.
When I need to do a left claw on Xbox controller, I use my index for the joystick and my thumb for the dpad. Not for everybody, sure, but then again neither is claw grip. ;)
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von ZTL-Altima:
I know but priorities will present themselves and be able to access everything must be accounted for. No need to hold claw, just fluid transitioning between grips. That cross far away from the left index bugs me too much.
When I need to do a left claw on Xbox controller, I use my index for the joystick and my thumb for the dpad. Not for everybody, sure, but then again neither is claw grip. ;)

This is why I recommend a controller with paddle buttons for AC6. The Xbox Elite or PS Dualsense Edge controllers are expensive, so it might be worth looking into an off-brand unless you got the money to spare. In my experience, brand-name controllers last longer than off-brand (my PS1 controllers still work).
The important thing is paddle buttons are in the perfect spot for your ring and pinky fingers, so you can simply remap controls to them and hold the controller normally.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von ZTL-Altima:
I know but priorities will present themselves and be able to access everything must be accounted for. No need to hold claw, just fluid transitioning between grips. That cross far away from the left index bugs me too much.
When I need to do a left claw on Xbox controller, I use my index for the joystick and my thumb for the dpad. Not for everybody, sure, but then again neither is claw grip. ;)
This is what I sometimes use at the DS right side for the infamous FAP glitch in DS3 to be able to control the camera, but it's clunky as hell to me. Some people can do it flawlessly, though.
Aizen 12. Aug. 2023 um 10:09 
THE LEGENDARY GRIP

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Deadoon 12. Aug. 2023 um 10:37 
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THE LEGENDARY GRIP

![image](https://i.imgur.com/Ul3zosX.jpg)
You can't embed images on steam, unless the image is hosted here.
Doing that type of link actually breaks it.
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The question of ergonomics for this kind of thing always boils down to personal preference.

Pure speculation but I could contemplate a few advantages. But realistically all the controller weaknesses/advantages are made irrelevant by just having back-paddles, but some strengths I see for vanilla layouts:

>KBM assuming gaming mouse, will probably give you the best soft lock aim option and let you hit all your buttons with minimal travel time; but subjectively (I think would) feel worse to boost around using WASD/ESDF rather than a analog stick.

>Dual Shock may be optimal for compensating for the travel between the face buttons and the right joystick with unique claw grips.

>Xbox will probably be easier to hit the heal since it's "up" on the D pad. (or anything else on the D-pad for that matter)
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Use whichever fits your situation more. I got access to both, and while I do like the feel playstation controllers (except for always loathing the middle missing cross D pad). Life keeps reminding me xbox ones are more convenient for PC gaming.

Not just because even games with playstation input prompts in the options ported from a playstation only console launch can still have issues with needing to root through settings. Compared to the horrors of capitalism making Xbox pads the most plug and play like cave man want 2 play game life.

But also because an Xbox pad can survive me knocking it off my desk like a dumbass and still be fine to play sekiro, while my brother using a newer playstation pad 99.99% just to navigate streaming menus is already having it break down. (And will still act like I am 'acting strange, that is strange. why wouldn't you use the superior option it is so easy' even back in the days of 3rd party software being basically mandatory to use a PS pad over xbox ).
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