What's Iguazu's problem?

[hoimingmissile]

This guy DMs you after the mission to say some ♥♥♥♥. Gets his ass kicked every time you meet him afterward. Whines all the time. Hires someone to kill you. Picks a fight with Snail... well alright that one's understandable. And then messes up ALLMIND's whole plan for some petty bs.

[Call Sign: Raven]

I think Iguazu is channeling all the vitriol on this forum about Balteus.

[Oobaneko]

Originally posted by Call Sign: Raven:

I think Iguazu is channeling all the vitriol on this forum about Balteus.

He is accurate representation of those, who loves throw "filtered" at people and then losing his sanity, if someone he mocked achieved same level or even surpassed him.

Also, Volta highly likely died because of him. Because Iguazu also a coward.

[Kain]

I think the only problem in comparing Iguazu I'm with this forum, is that at least in the end, he achieved self awareness.

[This PC]

insecurity

[Crossbone]

He also left Volta to die during Balam's Wallclimber attempt

[The Snacrifice]

Originally posted by Crossbone:

He also left Volta to die during Balam's Wallclimber attempt

I believe he got sidelined because he talked smack during the dam run iirc.

Originally posted by hoimingmissile:

Gets his ass kicked every time you meet him afterward. Whines all the time.

The big narrative of ACVI is purpose and resolve, and villains are best when they're foils for the main hero.

621 and Iguazu are both gen four augments. Both can hear Coral. But where 621 grows over the course of the game and eventually finds a purpose (by Walter, Carla, or Ayre), Iguazu has no purpose except money and later trying to kill you, to the point of attacking you AND snail at the same time, and then even into the grave when later melded with ALLMIND.

Also, unlike 621, Iguazu cannot shut up. He is constantly whining, and complaining, and talking. And almost all of the things he says are complaints about having to listen and work for people like G1 Michigan(who clearly cares for his men, even if Balam really doesn't), and thinks all of 621's accomplishments are due to 'luck' or some other third party assisting him.

I think the best part of Iguazu is the same quality that makes the O'Keefe fight interesting. Iguazu thinks 621 is some super-Chad mech pilot swimming in money and adoration and fame. O'Keefe tells 621 that hey, being human is kind of boring and annoying but the alternative is worse. Both of them don't realize 621 is essentially Walter's slave and only really 'alive'(or at the very least aware) when they're crammed into a mech and being thrown into knife-edge death fights against things significantly stronger than 621 is.

[Virsteinn]

Originally posted by The Snacrifice:

Originally posted by Crossbone:

He also left Volta to die during Balam's Wallclimber attempt

I believe he got sidelined because he talked smack during the dam run iirc.

Nah, Volta's last words explicitly state Iguazu went AWOL.

Originally posted by hoimingmissile:

Gets his ass kicked every time you meet him afterward. Whines all the time.

The big narrative of ACVI is purpose and resolve, and villains are best when they're foils for the main hero.

621 and Iguazu are both gen four augments. Both can hear Coral. But where 621 grows over the course of the game and eventually finds a purpose (by Walter, Carla, or Ayre), Iguazu has no purpose except money and later trying to kill you, to the point of attacking you AND snail at the same time, and then even into the grave when later melded with ALLMIND.

Also, unlike 621, Iguazu cannot shut up. He is constantly whining, and complaining, and talking. And almost all of the things he says are complaints about having to listen and work for people like G1 Michigan(who clearly cares for his men, even if Balam really doesn't), and thinks all of 621's accomplishments are due to 'luck' or some other third party assisting him.

I think the best part of Iguazu is the same quality that makes the O'Keefe fight interesting. Iguazu thinks 621 is some super-Chad mech pilot swimming in money and adoration and fame. O'Keefe tells 621 that hey, being human is kind of boring and annoying but the alternative is worse. Both of them don't realize 621 is essentially Walter's slave and only really 'alive'(or at the very least aware) when they're crammed into a mech and being thrown into knife-edge death fights against things significantly stronger than 621 is.

621 may not have purpose at first, but he's always rising to the occasion, and rising above his circumstances. Iguazu annoys me because he makes no attempt to do the same, regardless of the impetus people try to give him. That in turn is what makes Michigan so great as a character; he ♥♥♥♥-talks his crew not because he lacks any respect for them, but because he sees what their potential is. You can see this when you kill him and he basically goes, "Uhp, I tripped and broke my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ neck. How's that, guys? Y'all ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ get to see me die from my own stupid mistakes!" Even his MT pilots are looking for a G-number of their own, all because they respect the guy that much.

Iguazu is the only one who doesn't, which then begs the question of how he became G5 when he's such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥. Feels to me like his being in that particular roster cheapens the title.

[Fire Cougar]

Iguazu is literally an Incel, The first couple of times fighting him was fun to knock his ♥♥♥♥ in the dirt and humble him, but he never gets humbled and INSISTS on trying to take you out to make him self feel better/validated. Possibly his augmentation made him this way, but its more likely he was always a whiny ♥♥♥♥♥ when he wasnt getting his way. No matter HOW MANY TIMES HE COMES BACK TO KILL YOU HE NEVER LEARNS! And he is aware of each time youve whacked him too which makes it worse! How many times do you need to get KILLED before you admit you picked a fight with the wrong person?

Seriously, I wish Mech Genjutsu was a thing so I could Izanami the prick in a time loop and FORCE him to give up...

[SpartanHexus]

Originally posted by The Snacrifice:

Originally posted by Crossbone:

He also left Volta to die during Balam's Wallclimber attempt

I believe he got sidelined because he talked smack during the dam run iirc.

Originally posted by hoimingmissile:

Gets his ass kicked every time you meet him afterward. Whines all the time.

The big narrative of ACVI is purpose and resolve, and villains are best when they're foils for the main hero.

621 and Iguazu are both gen four augments. Both can hear Coral. But where 621 grows over the course of the game and eventually finds a purpose (by Walter, Carla, or Ayre), Iguazu has no purpose except money and later trying to kill you, to the point of attacking you AND snail at the same time, and then even into the grave when later melded with ALLMIND.

Also, unlike 621, Iguazu cannot shut up. He is constantly whining, and complaining, and talking. And almost all of the things he says are complaints about having to listen and work for people like G1 Michigan(who clearly cares for his men, even if Balam really doesn't), and thinks all of 621's accomplishments are due to 'luck' or some other third party assisting him.

I think the best part of Iguazu is the same quality that makes the O'Keefe fight interesting. Iguazu thinks 621 is some super-Chad mech pilot swimming in money and adoration and fame. O'Keefe tells 621 that hey, being human is kind of boring and annoying but the alternative is worse. Both of them don't realize 621 is essentially Walter's slave and only really 'alive'(or at the very least aware) when they're crammed into a mech and being thrown into knife-edge death fights against things significantly stronger than 621 is.

Its kinda ironic.

Iguana (yes, i will keep calling him that way), was someone who had the same type of augmentation 621 had, had a place to belong to, a bright future and friends, or "friends" depending on how you see it.

We the player have nothing, we don't even have ourselves.

Yet Iguana's immaturity before the feeling of defeat and envy of the victories a mere "freelancer", a fake Redgun, twisted his image of us into someone who had it all and by the end of everything the roles were reversed. We could choose again and had a friend to be with. He didn't even had himself.


Also, i'm convinced ALLMIND was the one who leaked our and Snail's position to Iguana so we could kill him, if we died there, that was good too, we would be absorbed.

[Fire Cougar]

Originally posted by SpartanHexus:

Originally posted by The Snacrifice:

I believe he got sidelined because he talked smack during the dam run iirc.


The big narrative of ACVI is purpose and resolve, and villains are best when they're foils for the main hero.

621 and Iguazu are both gen four augments. Both can hear Coral. But where 621 grows over the course of the game and eventually finds a purpose (by Walter, Carla, or Ayre), Iguazu has no purpose except money and later trying to kill you, to the point of attacking you AND snail at the same time, and then even into the grave when later melded with ALLMIND.

Also, unlike 621, Iguazu cannot shut up. He is constantly whining, and complaining, and talking. And almost all of the things he says are complaints about having to listen and work for people like G1 Michigan(who clearly cares for his men, even if Balam really doesn't), and thinks all of 621's accomplishments are due to 'luck' or some other third party assisting him.

I think the best part of Iguazu is the same quality that makes the O'Keefe fight interesting. Iguazu thinks 621 is some super-Chad mech pilot swimming in money and adoration and fame. O'Keefe tells 621 that hey, being human is kind of boring and annoying but the alternative is worse. Both of them don't realize 621 is essentially Walter's slave and only really 'alive'(or at the very least aware) when they're crammed into a mech and being thrown into knife-edge death fights against things significantly stronger than 621 is.

Its kinda ironic.

Iguana (yes, i will keep calling him that way), was someone who had the same type of augmentation 621 had, had a place to belong to, a bright future and friends, or "friends" depending on how you see it.

We the player have nothing, we don't even have ourselves.

Yet Iguana's immaturity before the feeling of defeat and envy of the victories a mere "freelancer", a fake Redgun, twisted his image of us into someone who had it all and by the end of everything the roles were reversed. We could choose again and had a friend to be with. He didn't even had himself.


Also, i'm convinced ALLMIND was the one who leaked our and Snail's position to Iguana so we could kill him, if we died there, that was good to, we would be absorbed.

My favorite part of the game when it coems to Iguazu is when Allmind calls Iguazu a mistake. Because he is, and should feel bad.

[PK_Thunder]

He kinda seems like a redditor to me.

[rudeboy]

Originally posted by Mountain Cat Mechwarrior:

My favorite part of the game when it coems to Iguazu is when Allmind calls Iguazu a mistake. Because he is, and should feel bad. [/quote]
what ending does this happen on?

[SpartanHexus]

Originally posted by rudeboy:

Originally posted by Mountain Cat Mechwarrior:

My favorite part of the game when it coems to Iguazu is when Allmind calls Iguazu a mistake. Because he is, and should feel bad.

what ending does this happen on?

You by accident included your question in the spoiler's tag.

edit: oh i know how, there is some tag, quote or spoiler there thats not closed and its including everything bellow.

edit2: ye, its missing the ending of a spoiler tag.

edit3: added the quote back in for context



Its on the ALLMIND ending, the Coral Release mission, after you get to the second phase of the second fight

[Gerbera]

Originally posted by Carnasid:

He got filtered and is taking it out on you.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

[Tustle]

Originally posted by Virsteinn:

That in turn is what makes Michigan so great as a character; he ♥♥♥♥-talks his crew not because he lacks any respect for them, but because he sees what their potential is. You can see this when you kill him and he basically goes, "Uhp, I tripped and broke my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ neck. How's that, guys? Y'all ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ get to see me die from my own stupid mistakes!" Even his MT pilots are looking for a G-number of their own, all because they respect the guy that much.

Iguazu is the only one who doesn't, which then begs the question of how he became G5 when he's such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥. Feels to me like his being in that particular roster cheapens the title.

Excellent question, I think up until we (as 621) showed up and shown him up, Iguana might have been actually considered a competent pilot, just to get his arse (literally) kicked by us.

Originally posted by SpartanHexus:

Iguana (yes, i will keep calling him that way),

and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one calling him that.