ARMORED CORE™ VI FIRES OF RUBICON™

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gurololi Dec 4, 2024 @ 6:40am
Data wiped on fresh install?
I bought a new computer rig fairly recently, and I haven't played AC6 lately. Installing a fresh copy of the game onto my computer, I've been shocked to find out that absolutely everything in my save data has been wiped. No parts unlocked, no AC data saved. all my decals and emblems are gone... Nothing remains, as though I was a completely new player, but I'm not, I pre-ordered this game and played it on day 1. I can't even begin to describe how it feels to have involuntarily lost 200+ hours of game time...
Even the stuff that should be account-bound (like saved decals) is gone. Literally ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ how?!
Originally posted by Zany Fish:
Someone else just posted that they finally beat AC6 through its 3 endings -and that they had factory reset their PC midway by the point they got to The Enforcer.

They replied to me questioning them on their experience. Steam cloud worked for him and he was able to recover from the point he left off from.

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You may have needed to have forced a DL of your steam cloud saved progress prior to starting the game again on the new install on the new rig. Technically you never should have to, but in rare times steam cloud behavior is wonky.

If you ran the game without steam active or connected to the net -you can lose that progress if cloud sync never happens to upload the latest changes.

If cloud save never downloads your old old data on new install and you run the game, and it syncs after seeing a fresh start -your cloud data may officially be wiped over.

If you close out of steam to fast from exiting a game, your cloud save upload can get cut off and fail.

Some users have reported steam cloud taking upwards of 15 minutes in rare occasions to actually check status between local and cloud saves.

If you disable cloud saves on your game because of wonky cloud save experiences, apparently that triggers deletion of saved cloud data for the corresponding game connected to your account. That leaves you with needing to manually backup and transfer the files.


If you had EAC disabled, which establishes the network connection to BANDAI (AFAIK), then it is possible that that also breaks the cloud saving features. Thus, if you never had progress prior to EAC being disabled, that'd potentially explain why you are starting from the zero point.

Anyone who is running the game with EAC disabled should be backing up either their entire AC6 steam folder or the key files saved on the PC. If you still have your old files on the old rig (provided you didn't pull the drive from the old rig and wipe it out for the new rig), then you'd be able to transfer the files and thus your progress. However, if you are running EAC, the file transfer method risks that POS application flagging the matter as a violation and sending a call back to BANDAI to ban your use of the network.
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Zany Fish Dec 4, 2024 @ 7:55am 
Someone else just posted that they finally beat AC6 through its 3 endings -and that they had factory reset their PC midway by the point they got to The Enforcer.

They replied to me questioning them on their experience. Steam cloud worked for him and he was able to recover from the point he left off from.

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You may have needed to have forced a DL of your steam cloud saved progress prior to starting the game again on the new install on the new rig. Technically you never should have to, but in rare times steam cloud behavior is wonky.

If you ran the game without steam active or connected to the net -you can lose that progress if cloud sync never happens to upload the latest changes.

If cloud save never downloads your old old data on new install and you run the game, and it syncs after seeing a fresh start -your cloud data may officially be wiped over.

If you close out of steam to fast from exiting a game, your cloud save upload can get cut off and fail.

Some users have reported steam cloud taking upwards of 15 minutes in rare occasions to actually check status between local and cloud saves.

If you disable cloud saves on your game because of wonky cloud save experiences, apparently that triggers deletion of saved cloud data for the corresponding game connected to your account. That leaves you with needing to manually backup and transfer the files.


If you had EAC disabled, which establishes the network connection to BANDAI (AFAIK), then it is possible that that also breaks the cloud saving features. Thus, if you never had progress prior to EAC being disabled, that'd potentially explain why you are starting from the zero point.

Anyone who is running the game with EAC disabled should be backing up either their entire AC6 steam folder or the key files saved on the PC. If you still have your old files on the old rig (provided you didn't pull the drive from the old rig and wipe it out for the new rig), then you'd be able to transfer the files and thus your progress. However, if you are running EAC, the file transfer method risks that POS application flagging the matter as a violation and sending a call back to BANDAI to ban your use of the network.
Last edited by Zany Fish; Dec 4, 2024 @ 8:06am
gurololi Dec 4, 2024 @ 8:05am 
Wait, nevermind. You actually reminded me that I had backed up a really old save when I modded the game a while after getting all of the endings. If not for that, I think I'd have lost it all. Thanks for the reminder!
Zany Fish Dec 4, 2024 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by csand:
Decals etc aren't account bound, they are save file bound. If you share/upload them them and delete tour save file they will no longer be accessible either

That sounds weird. Because frankly how else could other players access your uploaded files when you are offline and your stuff is uploaded for sharing if they are not tied to the account via a central server source?

The moment they are noticed as missing from your files on PC, is it sending a command to the network to delete your cloud shared stuff?!

Would love insight on the mechanisms.


Originally posted by csand:
To correct the previous user, EAC doesn't handle anything except monitoring for cheat apps running alongside the game. However the game obviously won't let you connect From's online service if it sees EAC isn't running. But that won't prevent Steam cloud save from working which is totally unrelated to the game or EAC (Steam simply copies your save file to a cloud storage).

Ah. I swear I heard somewhere that certain games out there behave differently on the cloud saves, so it's nice to hear that it is otherwise in this case. I recall the first time the mods were starting to roll out that a few were getting bans around patch 1.5 and claiming it was to do with the EAC monitoring for file irregularities. Nice to hear it actually isn't doing that.

Originally posted by csand:
EAC also doesn't check your save files or anything. From's server side anti cheat will check for certain things and issue a ban if it finds evidence of tampering. It's the same system as Elden Ring but in this case there isn't really much for them to check since a single player game. In Elden Ring for instance if you edit in a ton of runes for your character, your save file will be flagged and you will get a warning and then a ban. There is no risk of a ban by restoring a save file unless that file has been tampered with in some fashion. But sometimes discrepancies between versions can also look like cheating to that system. Regardless, EAC isn't dojng anything but monitoring for external cheats

My concern was with the fact that his cloud save would now be that of a fresh start. Worried that the system would check for a discrepancy, but you clarified that EAC is not monitoring for anything beyond active programs running while AC6 is. Thank you for clarity.

Originally posted by csand:
I use OneDrive and made a folder Junction to my save file folder for some games (Elden ring, AC6) so it backs up automatically, it works really well

Epic work around. I think a few others not fond of Microsoft (yet running windows) also said there were a few free cloud services out there that were similarly good at keeping the files backed up.
D. Flame Dec 4, 2024 @ 11:50pm 
Nah, reinstalling keeps your save if you have cloud saves on, but clicking new game will overwrite your save. You only get one save in this game.
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