No repair kit + no resupply

[Slopcoded Normiecore]

Since ac 6 has proven to be way too much of an easy game, i decided to go for a no repair kit/resupply run. Even after beating several levels (balteus even) i don't think i have met something that i thought i just wouldn't be able to beat. Sure, i did struggle a bit because the game requires much more on:

planing
resource management
positioning
movement
adaptation

i also have tried not to use tank threads, even though i do believe they would be objectively better than a biped due to having far more ap. The only thing i believe will pose a real threat is probably going to be ibis due to two main reasons:

his level is way too long (two acs + 2 ibis phases). Yet, i still have to try it out.

Don't know if i'm going to finish this run, but i had fun so far (and a bit of frustration lol). It lowkey makes me think repair kits shouldn't even be a thing in the first place and ressuplies should add to costs.

[Zany Fish]

I'm not sure you can actually do this without modding, because on some of the missions you are force refreshed. Vowing to not touch resupplies and repair kits also means that if you fail you are restarting from the beginning of the mission and not a check point as some of those resets will force reset your AP and all.

I'm pretty sure on the IBIS mission you are forced to use the supply sherpa to progress to the next section. It's not the only mission that uses it as a trigger -there is the one before the PCA crafts show up on the ledge/crater in a snow biome.

[Slopcoded Normiecore]

Originally posted by Zany Fish:

I'm not sure you can actually do this without modding, because on some of the missions you are force refreshed. Vowing to not touch resupplies and repair kits also means that if you fail you are restarting from the beginning of the mission and not a check point as some of those resets will force reset your AP and all.

I'm pretty sure on the IBIS mission you are forced to use the supply sherpa to progress to the next section. It's not the only mission that uses it as a trigger -there is the one before the PCA crafts show up on the ledge/crater in a snow biome.

ressuplies are always optional. But yeah, i'm restarting the whole mission, no checkpoints.

[REhorror]

Resupplies are always optional.
Checkpoints void you of S ranking, thus making them not efficient by default*

The easiest way to do this challenge is in the beginning of each mission, immediately use all of your nano repair kits (each time you get a slight bit of damage) and then proceed without them.

EDIT:
1. Oh wait, there's at least one mission that forces you to re-supply, being the Space Port mission, but that makes sense in-context, you are literally waiting for the enemy to come so it should be OK.
2. About the healing kits, I find another easy way, go into the controls, make Custom controls and literally delete the button config for Healing kits. Ta da, now you can't use the repair kits even if you have them.

[Elimm]

Originally posted by REhorror:

Resupplies are always optional.
Checkpoints void you of S ranking, thus making them not efficient by default*

The easiest way to do this challenge is in the beginning of each mission, immediately use all of your nano repair kits (each time you get a slight bit of damage) and then proceed without them.

EDIT:
1. Oh wait, there's at least one mission that forces you to re-supply, being the Space Port mission, but that makes sense in-context, you are literally waiting for the enemy to come so it should be OK.
2. About the healing kits, I find another easy way, go into the controls, make Custom controls and literally delete the button config for Healing kits. Ta da, now you can't use the repair kits even if you have them.

You can completely ignore the Resupply at Space Port, and those enemies will enter the scene a bit later as usual. For once I chose to put that resupply aside and kill a nearby LC, and the new LC snipers are there before I notice.

[REhorror]

Originally posted by 48 61 74 69:

Originally posted by REhorror:

Resupplies are always optional.
Checkpoints void you of S ranking, thus making them not efficient by default*

The easiest way to do this challenge is in the beginning of each mission, immediately use all of your nano repair kits (each time you get a slight bit of damage) and then proceed without them.

EDIT:
1. Oh wait, there's at least one mission that forces you to re-supply, being the Space Port mission, but that makes sense in-context, you are literally waiting for the enemy to come so it should be OK.
2. About the healing kits, I find another easy way, go into the controls, make Custom controls and literally delete the button config for Healing kits. Ta da, now you can't use the repair kits even if you have them.

You can completely ignore the Resupply at Space Port, and those enemies will enter the scene a bit later as usual. For once I chose to put that resupply aside and kill a nearby LC, and the new LC snipers are there before I notice.

Oh that is nice!

Man, the game still has so many secrets and work-around.

[Blackmage]

Originally posted by tee hee:

Since ac 6 has proven to be way too much of an easy game, i decided to go for a no repair kit/resupply run. Even after beating several levels (balteus even) i don't think i have met something that i thought i just wouldn't be able to beat. Sure, i did struggle a bit because the game requires much more on:

planing
resource management
positioning
movement
adaptation

i also have tried not to use tank threads, even though i do believe they would be objectively better than a biped due to having far more ap. The only thing i believe will pose a real threat is probably going to be ibis due to two main reasons:

his level is way too long (two acs + 2 ibis phases). Yet, i still have to try it out.

Don't know if i'm going to finish this run, but i had fun so far (and a bit of frustration lol). It lowkey makes me think repair kits shouldn't even be a thing in the first place and ressuplies should add to costs.

This is how I played the game when it first came out, with the exception of a few particularly annoying missions/bosses. Not that it can't be done, I just don't think it's worth the frustration.

Some bosses, like CEL240, are designed under assumption the player will be fully stocked (most likely due to player having already died and reloaded the checkpoint). The development team did it this way with AC6 because they wanted to make the game new-player friendly. But I think this is also because it is a lot easier to design and balance missions when the player is almost guaranteed to be topped off. They can get away with making the boss as over-tuned as they want.

This is the primary problem I have with Miyazaki's game design philosophy. He believes losing/dying always needs to be a part of the learning process. This is why he makes bosses damage-sponge bosses with incredibly punishing attacks. But all it really does is drag out the fight to create more chances for the player to make a mistake. Somehow this is supposed to be both fair and skill based. It really isn't.
It's like with chess - there are only so many opening moves people can make. Chess masters memorize these openings and always make the most optimized moves. So the beginning of grandmaster games are less about skill, and more about regurgitating what you've memorized. Bosses in games are the same way. Once you've got the signals memorized, it's no longer a matter of skill, just timing and reflexes. So damage-sponge boss battles just become a long and senseless slog of repetition.
Real skill is more than a matter of knowledge and application. It also requires creativity and cleverness. And I do not believe timing iframes or learning attack patterns is either creative or clever.

[REhorror]

Originally posted by Blackmage:

Originally posted by tee hee:

Since ac 6 has proven to be way too much of an easy game, i decided to go for a no repair kit/resupply run. Even after beating several levels (balteus even) i don't think i have met something that i thought i just wouldn't be able to beat. Sure, i did struggle a bit because the game requires much more on:

planing
resource management
positioning
movement
adaptation

i also have tried not to use tank threads, even though i do believe they would be objectively better than a biped due to having far more ap. The only thing i believe will pose a real threat is probably going to be ibis due to two main reasons:

his level is way too long (two acs + 2 ibis phases). Yet, i still have to try it out.

Don't know if i'm going to finish this run, but i had fun so far (and a bit of frustration lol). It lowkey makes me think repair kits shouldn't even be a thing in the first place and ressuplies should add to costs.

This is how I played the game when it first came out, with the exception of a few particularly annoying missions/bosses. Not that it can't be done, I just don't think it's worth the frustration.

Some bosses, like CEL240, are designed under assumption the player will be fully stocked (most likely due to player having already died and reloaded the checkpoint). The development team did it this way with AC6 because they wanted to make the game new-player friendly. But I think this is also because it is a lot easier to design and balance missions when the player is almost guaranteed to be topped off. They can get away with making the boss as over-tuned as they want.

This is the primary problem I have with Miyazaki's game design philosophy. He believes losing/dying always needs to be a part of the learning process. This is why he makes bosses damage-sponge bosses with incredibly punishing attacks. But all it really does is drag out the fight to create more chances for the player to make a mistake. Somehow this is supposed to be both fair and skill based. It really isn't.
It's like with chess - there are only so many opening moves people can make. Chess masters memorize these openings and always make the most optimized moves. So the beginning of grandmaster games are less about skill, and more about regurgitating what you've memorized. Bosses in games are the same way. Once you've got the signals and timing memorized, it's no longer a matter of skill, just time. So damage-sponge boss battles just become a long and senseless slog of repetition.

Um....AC6 bosses are the opposite of bullet spongies, they have specific weakness to be exploited and can be killed in minutes, just like in the bosses in older AC like AC3.
And as said, resupply is optional.
I have no idea why you keep bringing up Miyazaki again and again, he isn't the director of this game, Masaru Yamamura from Sekiro is.

Dying is a part of the learning process in video games, this has always been true, you die repeat and you get better.

And timing and memorization are both skills, both super valuable skills in fact.

You are really sounding more incoherent as you try to dig up on AC6 and Miyazaki boogeyman.
AC6 really doesn't play differently from past AC, and if you actually do play old AC, you would know that.

[Gerbera]

If S ranking is not a criteria, this is a very easy challenge once you know how the missions function.

If S ranking is a criteria, some mission can become irritating. Can't recall any per say .




With regards to repair kits, they should still definitely still be a thing. This game whole thing is burst damage and if you mess up, which you most likely will in missions you've never played before, repair kits will be your best friend.

Of course now that we all know this game basically inside and out, repair kits will be needed less and less. Same thing with something like terminal armor outside of PvP.