Daemon X machina vs Armored core 6?

[Gearwar]

Anyone played this? I am not trying to start up some riot, I am genuinly asking how it compares. I loved Armored core 6 and just finished the whole campaign. Im in the mood for aother mech game, how does it hold up?

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I feel just the opposite...

Of course you do, you play big titty anime games.

Valkyrie Drive is an amazing game.

[SpartanHexus]

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DxM > AC6

in all but graphics

I beat it on the switch years ago, went back in again on my pc and couldn't handle how the movement feels after getting used to ACVI. I'd rather play AC1 again or try AC5 which is the only generation i didn't play.

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DxM > AC6

in all but graphics

I beat it on the switch years ago, went back in again on my pc and couldn't handle how the movement feels after getting used to ACVI. I'd rather play AC1 again or try AC5 which is the only generation i didn't play.

Movement in DxM feels better especially since you get free control over vertical movement, vs just slowly floating to the ground in AC6.

[Aldain]

The real question will be how DxM's sequel holds up to AC6 imo.

Because really DxM was a solid foundation desperately in need of more work, funding and experience, and a sequel might do for it was followups did for Armored Core, akin to going from PS1 to PS2 in a way.

[Jebe457]

It's a similar breakdown to Demon Souls versus Code Vein. It depends upon what you want.

Armored Core 6 is a solid thoroughbred Armored Core and From Software game with writing with pretty obvious influence from things like Dune and Les Miserables.

Daemon X Machina is effectively the result of elements of the Armored Core 4 team going off to do 'not technically a sequel' minus Hidetaka Miyazaki, and you can feel that absence. If you care about the From Software narrative style at all it's not there... to put it nicely.

I suppose some people might put a lot of weight on Daemon X Machina's character generator is analogous to the one in Code Vein, and that your pilot character walks around the equivalent of the classic Armored Core menu.

Mind in turn a lot of respects Armored Core 4 is an anomaly in, if not Black Sheep of, the Armored Core franchise. Fans of the Armored Core 4 elements that are unique to Armored Core 4 will tend to naturally side with Daemon X Machina.

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It's a similar breakdown to Demon Souls versus Code Vein. It depends upon what you want.

Armored Core 6 is a solid thoroughbred Armored Core and From Software game with writing with pretty obvious influence from things like Dune and Les Miserables.

Daemon X Machina is effectively the result of elements of the Armored Core 4 team going off to do 'not technically a sequel' minus Hidetaka Miyazaki, and you can feel that absence. If you care about the From Software narrative style at all it's not there... to put it nicely.

I suppose some people might put a lot of weight on Daemon X Machina's character generator is analogous to the one in Code Vein, and that your pilot character walks around the equivalent of the classic Armored Core menu.

You can also make your pilot into Iron Man, and there is even a mission where you infiltrate a base on foot to steal a mech, which is cool AF. Being able to get out and repair your mech was cool too.

[Jebe457]

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You can also make your pilot into Iron Man, and there is even a mission where you infiltrate a base on foot to steal a mech, which is cool AF. Being able to get out and repair your mech was cool too.

You're free to like those elements, but that's like saying Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries is a better Armored Core game because it lets you take mercenary contracts on different planets. Or Armored Core 6 is a better Mechwarrior game than Mechwarrior 5 because you can move faster than a Locust.

There's an argument that it's not wrong, but... There's a reason people aren't going to take you seriously.

[REBirthTheEdge]

If you really like this game, I'd recommend:
- ZOE2nd
- Vanquish
- Ace Combat 7

More than DxM.

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You can also make your pilot into Iron Man, and there is even a mission where you infiltrate a base on foot to steal a mech, which is cool AF. Being able to get out and repair your mech was cool too.

You're free to like those elements, but that's like saying Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries is a better Armored Core game because it lets you take mercenary contracts on different planets. Or Armored Core 6 is a better Mechwarrior game than Mechwarrior 5 because you can move faster than a Locust.

There's an argument that it's not wrong, but... There's a reason people aren't going to take you seriously.

https://youtu.be/EeUn0s81-gk?si=ccZNubGj-q-2G4xo

[C1REX]

I really didn't like Deamon X Machina.

I don't know why but I see AC6 similar in many ways to Returnal what I consider one of the best games in recent years. Wierd as Returnal is not even a mech game. Must be the bullet hell, difficulty, bosses and confusing story.

[MadArtillery]

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You can also make your pilot into Iron Man, and there is even a mission where you infiltrate a base on foot to steal a mech, which is cool AF. Being able to get out and repair your mech was cool too.

You're free to like those elements, but that's like saying Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries is a better Armored Core game because it lets you take mercenary contracts on different planets. Or Armored Core 6 is a better Mechwarrior game than Mechwarrior 5 because you can move faster than a Locust.

There's an argument that it's not wrong, but... There's a reason people aren't going to take you seriously.

I don't see how liking a core part of a game and talking about it in a thread specifically about comparing their similarity and differences is invalid. That mission was indeed pretty interesting, If anything mission variety being a way more varied objective wise is a big positive of DxM compared to AC6. Lot of interesting missions, that will push you in various ways, and it does love it's twists to spice missions up and objectives can be all sorts of things. I'd like to see AC6 take some lessons there so every mission isn't go here, make boom, leave. The bosses are way better and more varied as well though the first meeting difficulty is always pathetic in DxM the higher varients are legitimatly good. Breaking components off bosses, slamming bosses with their own broken parts, revealing weak points through damage, and a lot more positioning and movement required in general. It can take some real planning to dismantle bosses properly.

I'd love for an AC6 expansion to steal some mission and boss mechanics from DxM and DxM 2 to learn how to actually write characters and story, AC6 is pretty all star for dialog and character writing and boy does the DxM team need to take a few lessons there.

[Vice]

Gameplay's pretty fun, graphics are OK, story and characters are diabolically dire lol.

If you go from zero to 10, 10 being AC6, I'd put it at about a 6, or 6.5? Definitely got a lot more mileage out of it when I played it as it came out, which was obviously a universe where AC6 didn't exist. But it does scratch the same itch.

Got a lot of weapons/parts to collect, big bosses to fight, mech customisation in terms of painting, there's even some co-op which at this point you'll probably have to put out calls for aid if you want people to actually play with. But yeah. It's a very 'We Have Armored core At Home' game.

Oh, and you can drop out of your mech and fight on foot, even if that is a bit half-baked.

[decizion]

Daemon X Machina is better. AC 6 is garbage.

[Samseng Yik]

I claimed this in epic but not aware is similar game.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Seems like DXM can coop campaign ?

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DxM > AC6

in all but graphics

Yeah, though the anime graphics are still quite nice and great in their own way. Who knew we waited 10 years just for a worse dxm.