Improve the multiplayer experience or the game dies

[The MASTA]

Idc about the weapon nerfs as much, but the boss nerfs is what killed the game for me. PvP was given some form of much needed balancing but some of it was a lil too much. The only way to retain players and to bring in new ones is to ditch the single player philosophy, we've waited YEARS for an Amoured Core game to be on PC and now the devs are just treating this like another dark souls or elden ring. I know I am beating a dead horse but we need the devs to focus on the multiplayer aspect that made AC5 and chromehounds the best of their line of mecha games.

Also for those single player gatekeepers, the game is actually too freaking short theres not enough single player to actually keep me wanting to play it after beating it 3 times and got all the endings. Most of us are playing this game to fight in customized mechs against other players to see whose the best within the community, not to just play Elden Core.

Matchmaking or clan wars need to be added to the game or this game will be dead within half a year, with only a spare few thousand playing it every so often. Single players if u want this to die then go to the next souls like game, actual AC fans demand that FS focus on making the multiplayer interesting, fair and balanced for all of us Ravens who take the call !!!!

[Entelechia]

Game literally sold better than ALL prior ACs almost combined and here we are with our armchair analyst.

Also they're not selling microtransaction so the continued PVP support is almost purely for their fanbase. This game has always been a PVE with bonus PVP for those who care.

The utterly inconsequential boss nerfs do almost nothing to the vast majority of players.

[Jelli]

this is some clownery, complaining about a singleplayer game dying? the legacy of being a solid fun game doesn't come with server costs, and this game is going to live for a really long time because no other game matches this one in terms of quality and accessibility for building robots and fighting your friends. and even without matchmaking, it's so easy to find a discord server or some ♥♥♥♥ with a competitive setup and regular matches. is that kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and old school? admittedly, yeah, kinda, but you are on something if you think that being a multiplayer-only experience is what this game needed.

oh, btw, the fact that you think this game is "tOo FrEaKiNg ShOrT" even after literally exhausting the third ending is exactly why every major AAA game for so long was some bs 100 hour open world grindfest. people like you screaming for ♥♥♥♥ like that, trying to ruin ♥♥♥♥ like armored core. you are whats wrong with gaming these days. you keep asking for literal ♥♥♥♥, straight up ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Himars-TT]

Game won't die because the multiplayer isn't the greatest, that's just hyperbole. But it does need improvements. At the minimum the latency issues need to be resolved, as well as improvements to matchmaking as well as how matches start.

If a host decides to have 10 total players in their lobby with 1v1 matching, it shouldn't be 2 people play, 8 people watch. How it should work is each pair that readies up gets their own little match, and the other 8 players can choose to watch or ready up themselves to fight in their own match. That way no one's just sitting there with a thumb up their rear waiting 15 minutes to fight, lose, and then have to wait 15 extra minutes cause the host has "losers rotate" rules. Same with teams, if you've got a lobby of 8 players, it should be 2 different fights of 2v2, not 4 players fight, 4 players watch.

[AC_R4VN]

I love it when someone says that the multiplayer of a game should be improved, and somehow "clans" are mentioned. Clans work in some games, not all games, and after playing AC5 in its heyday I certainly do not want "clan wars" to be in any form on Armored Core game after 5th gen AC. Clans will not make AC multiplayer better, and more often than not clans can end up as drama generators rather than allowing for cohesive groups of fellowship. If you want or need a clan, just make a discord for it.

Also, this game has only been out for a few months and FROM has already shown they are working on the game via patches/regulations. Give the game time to cook. At the very least the game is in better shape than some AAA games that come out and take forever to fix. If FROM can give us a few more options for multiplayer rooms and a possible quick match, it would do leaps and bounds for the health of the multiplayer.

[Zynryuk]

OP may be so young as to have been born into the 'live services' era, thus being a stranger to the idea that not every game is expected to drag-on for an indeterminate amount of time.

[nubi]

Originally posted by Zynryuk:

OP may be so young as to have been born into the 'live services' era, thus being a stranger to the idea that not every game is expected to drag-on for an indeterminate amount of time.

People are still playing Last Raven online almost 20 years later, tourist.

[Zynryuk]

Originally posted by nubi:

Originally posted by Zynryuk:

OP may be so young as to have been born into the 'live services' era, thus being a stranger to the idea that not every game is expected to drag-on for an indeterminate amount of time.

People are still playing Last Raven online almost 20 years later, tourist.

Indeed~ more power to my statement.

I feel you may have misunderstood what I'm saying: not every game has to be a terminally online experience, expected to be regularly updated, run forever and ever so it keeps generating a cash flow, even a number of years in the future.

What I -did not- mean is "hurr, nobody plays old games years after their prime".

[The MASTA]

Originally posted by ProtoBirb'n:

I love it when someone says that the multiplayer of a game should be improved, and somehow "clans" are mentioned. Clans work in some games, not all games, and after playing AC5 in its heyday I certainly do not want "clan wars" to be in any form on Armored Core game after 5th gen AC. Clans will not make AC multiplayer better, and more often than not clans can end up as drama generators rather than allowing for cohesive groups of fellowship. If you want or need a clan, just make a discord for it.

Also, this game has only been out for a few months and FROM has already shown they are working on the game via patches/regulations. Give the game time to cook. At the very least the game is in better shape than some AAA games that come out and take forever to fix. If FROM can give us a few more options for multiplayer rooms and a possible quick match, it would do leaps and bounds for the health of the multiplayer.

I'm sorry clan wars was the ♥♥♥♥ in AC5 and the only people who complain about it were the ones who didn't want AC series to become competitive like other esport type games, well I'm sorry to say this but a good quarter of us want that experience again. Have you seen the player drop? Also wtf is everyones problem being ok for this game to drop in player base? Are these souls players who just want the next installment? Cause us AC fans want this to last for a while with a good community to thrive from it, not for it to just turn into another Ace Combat game that just slowly sinking in its own grave.


The mecha community needs something more than just the Mechwarrior series, AC has the potential to be bigger than it was on the consoles. The devs need to actually pay attention to the multiplayer side like they did in the past and it will sell even more! Just look how well chromehounds went before Sega murdered it, AC5 also had the same idea but due to it just being on consoles it couldn't really branch out to a wider audience.

They will probably add more stuff in the coming months but they will also be less willing too if theres not enough people playing the game on PC vs the consoles.

[Call Sign: Raven]

This post should have been written in cut out magazine paper.

[Romara]

Armored Core as a series has always had a very small and dedicated fanbase for pvp, even back in the late 90s.
Folks like me have been waiting for over a decade for an approachable solution to play Armored Core pvp online and it's finally here. Even with the Jank, the hardcore/oldheads like me will always be around to scrum.

[CarbonCopy]

Just bumped a thread beneath yours "PvP Events Sign Up!" where we are trying to support all of this. I've provided feedback to hit most of your points, maybe at some point they will come back with these features. They have already gone against the norms and produced fast patches.

In the mean time would be happy to have you at some of the community events!

[Belmont]

Please look up Armored Core 5 and it's history.

I'd rather bring back Formula Front and have us fight other player's AI programmed ACs.

[Namoge]

Originally posted by REhorror:

LOL no.

Please keep the series being single player focus.

3 bosses were nerfed, but everything else is given a buff due to how the OP weapons were nerfed. The game is now harder as of now than on release.

While some stuff was buff and nerfed.. the game is vastly easier now then it was at launch.. The final 3 bosses of the 3 endings were all very difficult.. now they can be done S rank easy.. no bosses now are challenging as long as you are even half capable

[Deadoon]

Originally posted by Namoge:

Originally posted by REhorror:

LOL no.

Please keep the series being single player focus.

3 bosses were nerfed, but everything else is given a buff due to how the OP weapons were nerfed. The game is now harder as of now than on release.

While some stuff was buff and nerfed.. the game is vastly easier now then it was at launch.. The final 3 bosses of the 3 endings were all very difficult.. now they can be done S rank easy.. no bosses now are challenging as long as you are even half capable

The current top tier stuff is not as good as it was at launch.
The final bosses are the same as they were at launch. They have gone unchanged this whole time.

It isn't that the game is easier, it is that people got better.

[Caveman Smash]

idk why people want this game to fail so bad ,,, but it is obvious we will get more pvp and pve content ,,,

they already said in a interview something along the lines of : " they just want this to be a solid single player game because this is there first AC game in a long time but they will be talking more about PVP later down the line"