As a hardcore souls fan probably it is going to disappoint me

[wakeupmarkey]

Ever since it's not a souls game, fromsoftware is the king of soulslike games and instead of getting another dark souls or bloodborne 2 or elden ring dlc we get this in august.
I don't understand simply are there people who genuinely care about mechs in 2023?
I really hope fromsoftware continue to make superior games aka souls games after they finished this project.

[Butcher]

Haval mechs with a ton of poise, stamina energy, multiple endings, melee, easy mode ranged... It's practically a new souls game.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by markey:

I don't understand simply are there people who genuinely care about mechs in 2023?

You don't understand that different people can like different things?

That's a pretty basic line of logic you're missing there.

[5thbrother]

You know sometimes its good to open your mind on new/different things, i myself have Bloodborne remaster on PC on top of my wishlist, but im also kinda happy that FS goes back to AC this time.
Theres milions of gamers that loves mechs ,and they also deserve top tier game in this genre, especially og AC fans.

And don't worry in the same time they work on Elden Ring dlc, and maybe even on whole new title.

[Butcher]

Originally posted by 5thbrother:

3rd you know that theres like 20 great soulslikes on Steam, and like 3 OKish mech games on Steam ??

There is only 1 soulslike approaching to something near "great": Salt and Sanctuary. It has everything with different builds, losing souls on death, poise and more.
And 1-2 OKish, like Surge and Lord of the Fallen (arguably since they are light on builds and gameplay gets stale quickly). Other ones either lack builds, souls losing on death or dressing up your dude in a visible drip part.

There are more than 3 good mech games on steam:
94% positive reviews, 1 % off universal acclaim
https://store.steampowered.com/app/590380/Into_the_Breach/
83% positive, might get repetitive, but rather immersive
https://store.steampowered.com/app/784080/MechWarrior_5_Mercenaries/
81% positive, but it lets you design your own mechs, guaranteed hits too
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1389360/Mech_Armada/
78% positive, another strategy letting you design mechs
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553540/Phantom_Brigade/

[icepurple]

Originally posted by markey:

Ever since it's not a souls game, fromsoftware is the king of soulslike games and instead of getting another dark souls or bloodborne 2 or elden ring dlc we get this in august.
I don't understand simply are there people who genuinely care about mechs in 2023?
I really hope fromsoftware continue to make superior games aka souls games after they finished this project.

Kids nowadays...
Likely you don't even know that Armored Core series was the flagship title for From Software, as it is was Final Fantasy (and still is) for Square-Enix. Thanks to its success, the company could space on souls like games.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by Butcher:

Originally posted by 5thbrother:

3rd you know that theres like 20 great soulslikes on Steam, and like 3 OKish mech games on Steam ??

There is only 1 soulslike approaching to something near "great": Salt and Sanctuary. It has everything with different builds, losing souls on death, poise and more.
And 1-2 OKish, like Surge and Lord of the Fallen (arguably since they are light on builds and gameplay gets stale quickly). Other ones either lack builds, souls losing on death or dressing up your dude in a visible drip part.

There are more than 3 good mech games on steam:

Every game you just listed isn't comparable to Armored Core in any way,

3 of them are turn based tactics games (though Phantom Brigade is a hybrid) and Mechwarrior is a different flavor of Mech (more slow and Tank-like).

You've listed more "Games with mechs in them" than "Mech games".

Daemon x Machina is the only particularly noteworthy game in the similar vein to AC on Steam, though there's also M.A.S.S Builder (which is a little more Gundam flavored and arcade-y) and...that's about it.

There are more games that mechanically are similar to the Souls series than AC by a wide margin, hell IronPineapple is STILL going through games to this day in his series on Youtube and there's far more similar games than there are dissimilar ones too.

[icepurple]

I think was about time FS resumed the IP, has been about a decade since last AC. I got great expectations for the coming new title, given the tech advancements.

Personally, I'd like to see a joint venture with Gundam franchise and From Software in the future for a title at least.

[5thbrother]

@Butcher i know those games, but most of them are startegies/turn based, and Mechwarrior is slow as ♥♥♥♥, and its not my cup of tea.
Thats why im really hyped for fast paced combat in AC6.

[Butcher]

Originally posted by Aldain:

Originally posted by Butcher:

There is only 1 soulslike approaching to something near "great": Salt and Sanctuary. It has everything with different builds, losing souls on death, poise and more.
And 1-2 OKish, like Surge and Lord of the Fallen (arguably since they are light on builds and gameplay gets stale quickly). Other ones either lack builds, souls losing on death or dressing up your dude in a visible drip part.

There are more than 3 good mech games on steam:

Every game you just listed isn't comparable to Armored Core in any way,

3 of them are turn based tactics games (though Phantom Brigade is a hybrid) and Mechwarrior is a different flavor of Mech (more slow and Tank-like).

You've listed more "Games with mechs in them" than "Mech games".

Daemon x Machina is the only particularly noteworthy game in the similar vein to AC on Steam, though there's also M.A.S.S Builder (which is a little more Gundam flavored and arcade-y) and...that's about it.

There are more games that mechanically are similar to the Souls series than AC by a wide margin, hell IronPineapple is STILL going through games to this day in his series on Youtube and there's far more similar games than there are dissimilar ones too.

Those games are quite literally mech games. All other than Into the Breach let you design your own mechs with its own parameters.

I watched his videos for a little bit, but as I said they almost always lack some parts. For me soulslike should include:
1)United currency for everything, including levelling up, that is completely lost on death
2)Levelups with free point allocation allowing for diverse variety of builds with signifficant difference mechanically in gameplay
3)Dressing up your hero in a wide variety of equipment with visual presentation (Fashion souls)
4)Being difficult enough that you can't just LMB everything (include dodge at least)

[BlackSunEmpire]

Im very happy that they release something none souls related in a fresh setting.
Only the presentation is bad. Couldnt they afford to use more then 2 colors ?
Its not as if additional colors cost that much more hardware performance.
I really dont get it. Is this supposed to be some sort of unique art style where you are only allowed to use 2 colors at the same time ? I get that this is in some postapocalyptic setting, but rust and metal can have many colorations and layers of paint on it. And ruins can be overgrown.

[Butcher]

Originally posted by 5thbrother:

Mechwarrior is slow as ♥♥♥♥, and its not my cup of tea.

It is only slow if you drive slow mechs. There are many light ones which can zoom so fast that they never get hit. Great for kiting and killing heavy ones in 3rd person.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by Butcher:

Those games are quite literally mech games. All other than Into the Breach let you design your own mechs with its own parameters.

Designing Mechs with your own parameters isn't the only defining factor of Armored Core any more than a Stamina meter is the sole defining factor to a souls-like.

It's a factor, yes, but much like the factors you posited in regards to the other "souls-like" games discussed via IronPineapple, none of those games tick the same boxes Armored Core's actual gameplay, just a piece of the framework.

This is like saying to somebody "Go play this Shoot-em-up if you want a new Armored Core game, it has customization of mechs in it so it is basically the same thing right?" which is totally missing the point.

[Butcher]

Originally posted by Aldain:

Originally posted by Butcher:

Those games are quite literally mech games. All other than Into the Breach let you design your own mechs with its own parameters.

Designing Mechs with your own parameters isn't the only defining factor of Armored Core any more than a Stamina meter is the sole defining factor to a souls-like.

It's a factor, yes, but much like the factors you posited in regards to the other "souls-like" games discussed via IronPineapple, none of those games tick the same boxes Armored Core's actual gameplay, just a piece of the framework.

This is like saying to somebody "Go play this Shoot-em-up if you want a new Armored Core game, it has customization of mechs in it so it is basically the same thing right?" which is totally missing the point.

Well, it comes up to

Originally posted by 5thbrother:

mech game

definition, isn't it? I took it that if game has mechs as central characters then it is a mech game. I didn't include Serious Sam 4 with popemobile because central theme is not mechs.

[Skylark_J]

Armored Core is one of FromSoftware's legacy titles and I'm so happy that they are returning to this series.

You might feel disappointed but don't knock it till you try it I'm sure there's plenty Souls game to come in the future

[Dixego]

I wasn't really there to see it but I bet in 2009 there were guys complaining about FromSoft releasing this "Demon's Souls" nonsense instead of making more Armored Core and you know what, those hypothetical guys probably look dumb as hell in retrospect.