Funniest part about the nerfs

[Jagdtiger]

People can't even agree on what's changed. Boss less aggressive? Stomp attack? Sword swipe? Missile tracking? Bazooka? Guess nobody knows. Must be sooooo easy now when the difference is so minute nobody can even say for sure what changed

[Sinicero]

Originally posted by Wutever:

Originally posted by Sinicero:

Im pretty sure coral count as energy since they do get affected by EN weapon output by generator. (The melee one get affected by melee specialization)

None of the Coral weapons are affected by Energy Firearm Specialization.

Fire arm specialization does not increase damage of any kind, they only improve how your arm track their target after a quick movement. You can check their detail in the game.

[Wutever]

Originally posted by Sinicero:

Originally posted by Wutever:

None of the Coral weapons are affected by Energy Firearm Specialization.

Fire arm specialization does not increase damage of any kind, they only improve how your arm track their target after a quick movement. You can check their detail in the game.

Read, my dude. I never mentioned Firearm Specialization. I wrote Energy Firearm Specialization, which is the name of the stat that all generators have that directly affects energy weapon damage and charge time. Coral weapons are not affected by Energy Firearm Specialization. They still are affected by Firearm Specialization on arms, because all projectile weapons are.

[Sinicero]

Originally posted by Wutever:

Originally posted by Sinicero:

Fire arm specialization does not increase damage of any kind, they only improve how your arm track their target after a quick movement. You can check their detail in the game.

Read, my dude. I never mentioned Firearm Specialization. I wrote Energy Firearm Specialization, which is the name of the stat that all generators have that directly affects energy weapon damage and charge time. Coral weapons are not affected by Energy Firearm Specialization. They still are affected by Firearm Specialization on arms, because all projectile weapons are.

Ok i did some test and apparently you are right, EN stat in gen does not affect coral weapon.


Huh...interesting.

[LancsKid]

Originally posted by Sinicero:

Originally posted by Wutever:

Read, my dude. I never mentioned Firearm Specialization. I wrote Energy Firearm Specialization, which is the name of the stat that all generators have that directly affects energy weapon damage and charge time. Coral weapons are not affected by Energy Firearm Specialization. They still are affected by Firearm Specialization on arms, because all projectile weapons are.

Ok i did some test and apparently you are right, EN stat in gen does not affect coral weapon.


Huh...interesting.

did you test coral vs non coral generators there?

[NotBer]

Originally posted by Jagdtiger:

People can't even agree on what's changed. Boss less aggressive? Stomp attack? Sword swipe? Missile tracking? Bazooka? Guess nobody knows. Must be sooooo easy now when the difference is so minute nobody can even say for sure what changed

also, the people who did "tests" are those who already beat the bosses multiple times pre-"nerf". I mean of course, the bosses seem easier because they've already beaten it. they already know what to do.

the feedback of those who only beat the bosses post-"nerf" is more valid to me.

[This PC]

Originally posted by NotBer:

also, the people who did "tests" are those who already beat the bosses multiple times pre-"nerf". I mean of course, the bosses seem easier because they've already beaten it. they already know what to do.

the feedback of those who only beat the bosses post-"nerf" is more valid to me.

It's less about beating the bosses or not, it's more about "From took something away from my experience". You are misrepresenting the issue. Majority of people had beaten the bosses pre-patch anyways.

[Yuki Terumi]

The actual change to the boss:

https://imgur.io/a/Ted1IEL#gip3poe

They just reduced the time it takes for stagger recovery.

[This PC]

Originally posted by Yuki Terumi:

The actual change to the boss:

https://imgur.io/a/Ted1IEL#gip3poe

They just reduced the time it takes for stagger recovery.

You're ignoring the major changes, your statement is misleading.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1888160/discussions/0/3827552253831078785/#c3827552253831222795

[Yuki Terumi]

Originally posted by This PC:

Originally posted by Yuki Terumi:

The actual change to the boss:

https://imgur.io/a/Ted1IEL#gip3poe

They just reduced the time it takes for stagger recovery.

I posted the actual changes like... few posts back.

Yea I saw that. I also saw where that poster said:

Take some of this with a grain of salt since the data formats are not quite as accurate as they were in Elden Ring.

The actual video evidence quickly puts that to rest. The damage was not decreased.

[This PC]

Originally posted by Yuki Terumi:

Take some of this with a grain of salt since the data formats are not quite as accurate as they were in Elden Ring.

I also posted my own data with footage to prove.

[This PC]

Originally posted by Yuki Terumi:

The actual video evidence quickly puts that to rest. The damage was not increased.

... ? It was decreased, 15~25% depending on the move.
Ibis does between 15 and 25% damage less than she used to.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by Yuki Terumi:

The actual change to the boss:

https://imgur.io/a/Ted1IEL#gip3poe

They just reduced the time it takes for stagger recovery.

This video isn't clear, which one is patch 1.01, the above or below?
Because in the above, the AC is left with 130 AP, while in the below, AC is left with 730 AP.

[Yuki Terumi]

Originally posted by This PC:

Originally posted by Yuki Terumi:

The actual video evidence quickly puts that to rest. The damage was not increased.

... ? It was decreased, 15~25% depending on the move.
Ibis does between 15 and 25% damage less than she used to.

My guy you posted a video using two clearly separate builds. The gipphy using the same build before and after shows that the damage has not changed.

[Yuki Terumi]

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Originally posted by Yuki Terumi:

The actual change to the boss:

https://imgur.io/a/Ted1IEL#gip3poe

They just reduced the time it takes for stagger recovery.

This video isn't clear, which one is patch 1.01, the above or below?
Because in the above, the AC is left with 130 AP, while in the below, AC is left with 730 AP.

Yes, there's a multiplier applied when you are staggered. You take more damage. They reduced the stagger duration on the blade strike such that if you take consecutive strikes you're not taking multiplicative damage. Watch the difference between the rate at which the stagger bars depletes.

[MPS]

Originally posted by SlantedRhetoric:

Well the part that matters is that FS kowtowed to a group of people who have a seething hatred for their company and their fans.

TIL I have a seething hatred for myself because they made a boss too hard