The worst part of the Zimmerman

[idk]

Is not losing to it, but realising I'm never going to encounter any creative builds because of it

[Aldain]

You're not gonna encounter many builds either way because the weapon variety is a bit lacking in AC6 in general.

Most weapons only have two same-class variations, some don't even have more than one like the Laser Handgun, the Ransetsu Burst Rifle and the one Needle Gun (the handheld one).

With less variety you kind of will just inevitably wind up with people settling on what floats to the top, though the recent buffs did at least move the Assault Rifles from literal garbage to usable.

[Speed Malus]

Just equip a shield and watch as Zimmerman users suffer.

[Vazc0]

Originally posted by Speed Malus:

Just equip a shield and watch as Zimmerman users suffer.

coral shield does wonders against zimmerman + stun needles but its still getting old seeing the same builds all the time.

[FAT WANZER]

try the laser handgun 200 range you are fine and most shotty bounce,then again i mostly met ppl who use fuel instead of coral engine(better assault boost cause more max energy)

[Leonhardt]

Maybe with the buffs in the new patch more people will use more diverse builds.

[SlantedRhetoric]

Zimms aren't the reason for a lack of build variety in matchups.

[nubi]

The PvP patch will nerf Zimmerman

[Moddeang]

I know right? AC6 is like a fever dream for me. But after a while... I don't have the fun I have decade ago. Back then its feel like a gather place for those Mech lover, Gather together and show off how cool everyone build are. Now its feel like everyone just aim to win the match...

I mean the previous games are also have its own problem with multiplayer. But I think what is change is people in general and STAGGER? Or maybe I'm old now... xD

Anyway Story mode are pretty great! :D

[idk]

Originally posted by Moddeang:

I know right? AC6 is like a fever dream for me. But after a while... I don't have the fun I have decade ago. Back then its feel like a gather place for those Mech lover, Gather together and show off how cool everyone build are. Now its feel like everyone just aim to win the match...

I mean the previous games are also have its own problem with multiplayer. But I think what is change is people in general and STAGGER? Or maybe I'm old now... xD

Anyway Story mode are pretty great! :D

Stagger really does spoil every facet of weapon choice and the game itself. I would have preferred cumulative slow-down on weapons as opposed to being outright stunned (How does a robot get stunned?). A shotgun would be more viable for how it makes the target easier to hit with a melee attack, but also would mean you're taking the risk of dashing into a shield enemy or an enemy with their own melee to trade blows.

[Paco]

Make the creative builds yourself. For example, my current favorites rely on the aoe/splash damage of the heaviest grenade launchers in the game, either the Dizzy or the Earshot, plus linear rifles/laser rifles as a way to pressure opponents at range. I'm also really enjoying the Explosive Thrower, its hitbox is huge and it deals a ton of stagger, yet no one ever uses it. Another weapon I'm partial to, due to its ability to catch a dodging opponent off-guard is the spread bazooka.
A really fun way to use weapons with a lot of aoe is to free-aim them at the start of a 1v1, predicting where the opponent will be. And if you've really got brass balls, you can swap to manual aim mid fight and do the same thing. You can even land hits with it on targets trying to dodge it without even breaking lock-on if you corner them against a building in the environment, due to them detonating on impact with terrain and the huge aoe, their quick-boost won't save them.
These weapons combined with over 2000 attitude stability, to ensure it would take at least 3 zimmerman shots to stagger me, makes encountering zimmerman users on autopilot just a free win.
However, its definitely not fun to fight a mid-long range build with. Especially those lightweight reverse joint users that just pepper me with lasers from a mile away.
Anyway, I'm sure everyone here can come up with something creative.

[Moddeang]

Originally posted by Derger:

Originally posted by Moddeang:

I know right? AC6 is like a fever dream for me. But after a while... I don't have the fun I have decade ago. Back then its feel like a gather place for those Mech lover, Gather together and show off how cool everyone build are. Now its feel like everyone just aim to win the match...

I mean the previous games are also have its own problem with multiplayer. But I think what is change is people in general and STAGGER? Or maybe I'm old now... xD

Anyway Story mode are pretty great! :D

Stagger really does spoil every facet of weapon choice and the game itself. I would have preferred cumulative slow-down on weapons as opposed to being outright stunned (How does a robot get stunned?). A shotgun would be more viable for how it makes the target easier to hit with a melee attack, but also would mean you're taking the risk of dashing into a shield enemy or an enemy with their own melee to trade blows.

Yeah I agree, STAGGER is just not right, Same goes with the absent of turn-speed too I think ACV/VD have the best stagger mechanic, You only he stagger with big caliber weapon. And it happen just a sec and it just for the cool visual and feedback of how cool that weapon is :D

Not this Fever time for bonus damage non-sense here. I mean you can also build an AC with dual laser pistols and chip away your opponent AP... Or Missile boat with ton of AP and with the same AB speed as the light weight... But is it fun? Hmm...

[Leonhardt]

Originally posted by Moddeang:

Same goes with the absent of turn-speed

If you're playing with a controller turn up the Camera speed in your settings to help with turning

[idk]

Originally posted by Moddeang:

Originally posted by Derger:

Stagger really does spoil every facet of weapon choice and the game itself. I would have preferred cumulative slow-down on weapons as opposed to being outright stunned (How does a robot get stunned?). A shotgun would be more viable for how it makes the target easier to hit with a melee attack, but also would mean you're taking the risk of dashing into a shield enemy or an enemy with their own melee to trade blows.

Yeah I agree, STAGGER is just not right, Same goes with the absent of turn-speed too I think ACV/VD have the best stagger mechanic, You only he stagger with big caliber weapon. And it happen just a sec and it just for the cool visual and feedback of how cool that weapon is :D

Not this Fever time for bonus damage non-sense here. I mean you can also build an AC with dual laser pistols and chip away your opponent AP... Or Missile boat with ton of AC are the same AB speed as the light weight... But is it fun? Hmm...

My thoughts exactly, I was even going to mention something about the fever time aspect to it but didn't know how to word it so thank you lol

[Hotaru]

I miss the build diversity from AC4A, AC6 just lacks parts in just about everything, also you can't shoot missiles down anymore, makes missile boat counters much harder to make. AC6 mechanics also kinda force certain builds to naturally be better than others, I'm not a fan of the stagger or the melee changes, just doesn't feel right in an AC game.

In AC4A I had a missile boat that could fly forever while raining missiles down at long range, a super light weight stupid fast dual melee glass cannon, a more standard medium build with a mix of weapons, and my go-to light weight melee speedster, and I could clear a bunch of missions with just meme builds. The customisation and variety of parts was just so fun.

[Sin1328]

Originally posted by Derger:

Is not losing to it, but realising I'm never going to encounter any creative builds because of it

rarely use it, never use it in pvp either. not that good imho. decent to be sure but there are many better weapons.