Anyone uses the needle after the ice worm?

[Kain]

It seems to do decent damage, but its so slow.

[Old Man Munchalot]

dual needles pretty much stunlock the majority of non AC bosses in the game (lookin at you ibis)

[DirtyMick]

It's ez mode for anything in the game actually.

[Mesond]

Originally posted by Old Man Munchalot:

dual needles pretty much stunlock the majority of non AC bosses in the game (lookin at you ibis)

Which makes the game too easy. Don't do that if you want to learn to do better in the game. Too much of a crutch. I overused them so much. Stopped using them now. Just makes bosses too easy.

Maybe do it on the first playthrough. But after that try out all the other gear.

[Kain]

Yeah, I just took it for a spin, JESUS, that stun is insane. I thought it was ♥♥♥♥ given how slow it is, but, if you're patient it can destroy pretty much anything.

[✰N0ni✰]

Needles are great, but don't overuse them. Experiment and don't rely on something that makes everything easy so you don't get bored as quick by breezing through the game.

[Xaelon]

The needles are very good and very easy to use.

I wouldn't call it slow though. They fire almost instantly, reload in 5 seconds and seem to have faster projectile speed VS most of the explosive weapons.

I prefer the back mounted plasma cannon now though. Similar stats and doesn't need to reload after every shot.

[Scraps]

Dual Needles are always the way to go for me in that fight. That's more me basing my logic on having two opportunities to down it while it's emerges from the sand as opposed to one. That's merit enough to bring two, it dealing significant damage to its healthbar is a happy surprise.

[robruckus65]

Its the closest thing to a sniper cannon in this game.

[Kain]

Originally posted by ✰N0ni✰:

Needles are great, but don't overuse them. Experiment and don't rely on something that makes everything easy so you don't get bored as quick by breezing through the game.

Eh its fine, I'm on NG++ and just now I'm thinking about using it.

[hoimingmissile]

Spending too long in this cesspool of a forum, can't even tell if it's bait or not (%_)

The needles are so good it's called cheese. You don't need to use songbirds anymore after you get the needles. They are heavier but better in every way.

Don't let anyone tell you that the only "real way" to play this game is making it harder on yourself. Armored Core has always had unbalanced weapons. Some are great, some have no use whatsoever, like the bomb dispenser. You can choose to use objectively substandard gear if you want but save that for NG+. If you just want to get to the end at least one time, throw on the needles.

Originally posted by Xaelon:

They fire almost instantly, reload in 5 seconds and seem to have faster projectile speed VS most of the explosive weapons.

The needles are kinetic. The electrical AoE doesn't correspond to any of the tunable damage types.

[StuffedPlatypusLuvsOrigamiRabbit]

Double needle all day every day

[FAT WANZER]

Originally posted by Kain:

It seems to do decent damage, but its so slow.

it's like the best weapon to abuse on PvP,tho don't complain later when all ppl in the lobby suddenly change to keep away missile boi

[Kain]

Originally posted by hoimingmissile:

Spending too long in this cesspool of a forum, can't even tell if it's bait or not (%_)

The needles are so good it's called cheese. You don't need to use songbirds anymore after you get the needles. They are heavier but better in every way.

Don't let anyone tell you that the only "real way" to play this game is making it harder on yourself. Armored Core has always had unbalanced weapons. Some are great, some have no use whatsoever, like the bomb dispenser. You can choose to use objectively substandard gear if you want but save that for NG+. If you just want to get to the end at least one time, throw on the needles.

Originally posted by Xaelon:

They fire almost instantly, reload in 5 seconds and seem to have faster projectile speed VS most of the explosive weapons.

The needles are kinetic. The electrical AoE doesn't correspond to any of the tunable damage types.

Yeah, they pretty much stun anything, I'm trying to use them with the pile bunker, I'm not very good with meele weapons, and the needles are giving me the stun necessary to try. Plus, the damage itself is more than decent on the needles themselves.


My initial problem is that they don't fire immediately after pressing the button, that small delay was throwing me off.

Also, why would this be bait?

[This PC]

Originally posted by hoimingmissile:

If you just want to get to the end at least one time, throw on the needles.

Alternatively, don't let people like this tell you you need specific gear to get to the end. You don't. I never liked the needles myself, and it's genuinely because I think they're overrated.

If the needles feel good to you, use them, otherwise, don't, but yeah, they are generally recognized as being a bit of crutch, and I'm part of team "it feels good to learn to play without things like this" myself. Using things like this makes it difficult to play anything else. It's less about elitism and more about genuine concern for your enjoyment of the game. ^^''

I probably think the needles are overrated because I actually learned to play, now that I think about it. :D

[Draven]

imo they should have locked the needle to that mission just like the serpent spear in ER