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FAT WANZER Sep 7, 2023 @ 8:52pm
Need some help on AC stat. Attitude recovery and System recovery...
Which one of those make you recover faster from stagger?
Last edited by FAT WANZER; Sep 7, 2023 @ 8:53pm
Originally posted by Yuki Terumi:
Originally posted by FAT WANZER:
Originally posted by RX-3DR:
System Recovery has no effect on Stagger. Stagger is always a fixed 2 second down and your stagger bar hard resets at ~3.5s after a stagger.

Attitude Recovery increases the rate your stagger bar decreases over time out but the difference looks to be minimal because the stat doesn't change much (Overloading with the heaviest weapons possible vs no weapons is like 85 -> 65). The way stagger empties out, it's more valuable to not get hit for a long period of time than to actually pay any real attention to Attitude Recovery.

Some minor testing, between a drastic Attitude Recovery difference of no weapons vs as heavy as you can go without EN Shortfall(2 Detonating Bazookas, a Triple Laser and heavy Grenade Launcher), you're looking at a 3 seconds vs 3.5 seconds to empty out on the rapid recovery phase. It sounds like it would be great but this is after about 5 second without getting hit for it to go into the rapid recovery. So realistically, you're looking at a difference of 9 seconds against 10 seconds for your stagger bar to empty out from near full.
the thing is some AC recover from stagger so fast while some stay long enough for me to get a fully charged pile bunker,was wondering which stat affect it


If you're referring to PVE there appears to be a bug where sometimes ACs ignore/cancel being staggered.

For PVP:
1. using certain expansion slots
2. mashing quickboost
3. latency
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Anatolius Sep 7, 2023 @ 8:56pm 
Based on description one is about resistance to stagger, and the other is about how quick you recover from it.
Press V and "contextual help"
thorin.hannahs Sep 7, 2023 @ 9:05pm 
System recovery seems to determine how long it takes to clear Status build up like shock and Burn. Not how long it takes to get out of ACS stun.
RX-3DR Sep 7, 2023 @ 10:15pm 
System Recovery has no effect on Stagger. Stagger is always a fixed 2 second down and your stagger bar hard resets at ~3.5s after a stagger.

Attitude Recovery increases the rate your stagger bar decreases over time out but the difference looks to be minimal because the stat doesn't change much (Overloading with the heaviest weapons possible vs no weapons is like 85 -> 65). The way stagger empties out, it's more valuable to not get hit for a long period of time than to actually pay any real attention to Attitude Recovery.

Some minor testing, between a drastic Attitude Recovery difference of no weapons vs as heavy as you can go without EN Shortfall(2 Detonating Bazookas, a Triple Laser and heavy Grenade Launcher), you're looking at a 3 seconds vs 3.5 seconds to empty out on the rapid recovery phase. It sounds like it would be great but this is after about 5 second without getting hit for it to go into the rapid recovery. So realistically, you're looking at a difference of 9 seconds against 10 seconds for your stagger bar to empty out from near full.
Last edited by RX-3DR; Sep 7, 2023 @ 10:46pm
FAT WANZER Sep 7, 2023 @ 10:55pm 
Originally posted by RX-3DR:
System Recovery has no effect on Stagger. Stagger is always a fixed 2 second down and your stagger bar hard resets at ~3.5s after a stagger.

Attitude Recovery increases the rate your stagger bar decreases over time out but the difference looks to be minimal because the stat doesn't change much (Overloading with the heaviest weapons possible vs no weapons is like 85 -> 65). The way stagger empties out, it's more valuable to not get hit for a long period of time than to actually pay any real attention to Attitude Recovery.

Some minor testing, between a drastic Attitude Recovery difference of no weapons vs as heavy as you can go without EN Shortfall(2 Detonating Bazookas, a Triple Laser and heavy Grenade Launcher), you're looking at a 3 seconds vs 3.5 seconds to empty out on the rapid recovery phase. It sounds like it would be great but this is after about 5 second without getting hit for it to go into the rapid recovery. So realistically, you're looking at a difference of 9 seconds against 10 seconds for your stagger bar to empty out from near full.
the thing is some AC recover from stagger so fast while some stay long enough for me to get a fully charged pile bunker,was wondering which stat affect it
Last edited by FAT WANZER; Sep 7, 2023 @ 11:00pm
RX-3DR Sep 7, 2023 @ 11:30pm 
Originally posted by FAT WANZER:
the thing is some AC recover from stagger so fast while some stay long enough for me to get a fully charged pile bunker,was wondering which stat affect it
Not sure how long long enough is meant to be. Did some additional testing, Seems like if you mash boost, you can QB out of a stagger slightly faster at ~105f/1.75s compared to if you try to move normally after a stagger at ~120f/2s. No idea if that 0.25s is what you're looking for.

So far from a few tests (Rummy, Freud and Gamma-3 in Arena, V3(?) in Mission), enemy ACs follow this rule and there doesn't seem to be any significant differences.
Last edited by RX-3DR; Sep 7, 2023 @ 11:34pm
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Yuki Terumi Sep 7, 2023 @ 11:38pm 
Originally posted by FAT WANZER:
Originally posted by RX-3DR:
System Recovery has no effect on Stagger. Stagger is always a fixed 2 second down and your stagger bar hard resets at ~3.5s after a stagger.

Attitude Recovery increases the rate your stagger bar decreases over time out but the difference looks to be minimal because the stat doesn't change much (Overloading with the heaviest weapons possible vs no weapons is like 85 -> 65). The way stagger empties out, it's more valuable to not get hit for a long period of time than to actually pay any real attention to Attitude Recovery.

Some minor testing, between a drastic Attitude Recovery difference of no weapons vs as heavy as you can go without EN Shortfall(2 Detonating Bazookas, a Triple Laser and heavy Grenade Launcher), you're looking at a 3 seconds vs 3.5 seconds to empty out on the rapid recovery phase. It sounds like it would be great but this is after about 5 second without getting hit for it to go into the rapid recovery. So realistically, you're looking at a difference of 9 seconds against 10 seconds for your stagger bar to empty out from near full.
the thing is some AC recover from stagger so fast while some stay long enough for me to get a fully charged pile bunker,was wondering which stat affect it


If you're referring to PVE there appears to be a bug where sometimes ACs ignore/cancel being staggered.

For PVP:
1. using certain expansion slots
2. mashing quickboost
3. latency
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