Does tank build + gatling gun + songbird are made for newbie (easy mode of the game).

[Bobby Crocoshoes]

Hello guys,

i don't want to offense anyone but i made a test with my friend on Armored Core.

Right now he play tank + gatling + songbird and enjoy the game and said that the game is to easy.

i told him to stop using this build and try some others think like light/medium build.
The result is: he don't have the skill gap to perform with others build.

So can we said that tank build + gatling gun + songbird are made for newbie?


Thanks in advance & stay AC.

[overmage]

Originally posted by Wutever:

Quads might be safer against the Cleaner, but I wouldn't call them better than tank / regular biped. The front grill is a much bigger weakpoint than the exhaust if you know how to deal with the arms.

You can do a literal 6 second TTK with quads against the cleaner so...

I am pretty sure the exhaust takes more damage than the front grill, the caveat is that you must aim directly down it else the damage is greatly reduced, whereas the front grill has no directional requirement (other than the arms blocking it of course)

[Vkdsw]

Originally posted by Wutever:

In a lot of missions going full fatty tank is a literal AFK mode. Just hard lock and shoot. Doesn't necessarily work for everything though, since some bosses just do too much damage, at least before NG+.

I also have no idea how easy it is to S-rank with a tank since damage taken is a big factor there.

full S rank with tank with song birds and gatlings - imposible. Maybe with lite trucks it`s will be ok because lite trucks- OP. You need go fast as you can for S rank, for some mission you need full rocket build, for some - just super fast mech with shotgans.
On tank you can finish for S rank missions with bosses - they are easy

[hoimingmissile]

Originally posted by Wutever:

I also have no idea how easy it is to S-rank with a tank since damage taken is a big factor there.

People that are looking to s rank are on the opposite side of the venn diagram to people that are brute forcing their way through the game with the wheelchair build

[Bobby Crocoshoes]

Originally posted by BKo:

It's not about being newbie or being the coolest guy on the internet, the point of the game is to find entertainment and satisfaction. I couldn't play such a build because I'd be bored. Your friend (even though everyone knows it's you) if he can't find satisfaction in a wheelchair build, then don't do it. Really simple actually.

*even though everyone knows it's you*

Don't worry i have like 4-5 friends who play the game PS5 or PC and we talk about build.
You don't have friends who play the ACVI? I'm sorry for you mate.

Now the one who played wheelchair totally change his mind... He prefer the no wheelchair, no songbird no gatling build.

Why? Because now he enjoy the game with some challenge, for him ACVI was to easy with that kind of stuff (songbird,wheelchair,gatling).

Everybody can enjoy the game differently.
Some builds are easy newbie friendly to beat the game others are more harder.

[Wutever]

Originally posted by overmage:

Originally posted by Wutever:

Quads might be safer against the Cleaner, but I wouldn't call them better than tank / regular biped. The front grill is a much bigger weakpoint than the exhaust if you know how to deal with the arms.

You can do a literal 6 second TTK with quads against the cleaner so...

I am pretty sure the exhaust takes more damage than the front grill, the caveat is that you must aim directly down it else the damage is greatly reduced, whereas the front grill has no directional requirement (other than the arms blocking it of course)

What specifically do you do for a 6 sec TTK? Stun Needles down the exhaust?

The armor is the biggest thing I don't like about the exhaust strat. It's easier to not hit the grill armor than it is to not hit the exhaust armor, though some melee weapons will still hit the grill armor even on a stagger.

[MS-14A Gelgoog]

Originally posted by Bobby Crocoshoes:

thanks for aswer guys.

By the way i saw a lot of streamers using that build to finish the game with minimum issue (exemple: Asmongold)
https://youtu.be/ibfG_mlAjOs?t=31260

he got rekted for hours vs the spider then he changed for gatling+songbird and killed the boss.

thats because Asmongold is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ player.

The only reason he's "GOOD" is because like every other youtuber out there he gets carried by his fans.

[suFist2K8d]

It depends. It makes some missions easier for sure, as do the Stun Needles. IME, those plasma grenade arm weapons are super user friendly since they 1-shot most things. Laser Pistols are also very forgiving as they have decent DPS, no reload time, and the have decent damage/$.

Shotguns can also be easy mode; though which ones are better depends on the mission. Zimmers are OP in many ways, but the early game shotty is better if you need faster shots to come out (e.g. there's a mission with suicide bombs and a messed up lock on; those shotties work decent to ensure you hit before losing 1k HP)

That said, I only use Tank Legs when I have to to S-Rank something and require Songbirds or something. They're so obnoxious to drive and poor at dancing in the air; even with the best generator.

[Sinicero]

Dual gatling dual songbird with tank tread is a simple build that can be discoverer in the early stage of the game and it basically only require you to "bol to the wall" charge right into the enemy and out DPS it before it could kill you.

There are two thing why this kind of build require little thinking or skill:

1.AI doesn't have the concept of kiting, they move on a set of order and usually have "window to attack" in their moveset. This translate into they probably gonna get hit by the 2 songbird, stagger, and then get shred by the 2 gatling.

2. Tank tread build usually have the highest AP, highest defense stats. This translate to capable of shrug off many boss skill that would have decimate other kind of build, allow them to keep the DPS going and and attack those "Window".

Tl;dr : Yes and kinda.

[solthusx]

The only issue using the dual gattling+dual songbirds setup might have for beginners is that you have to get past Balteus before gaining access to those weapons.

[Saurdaukar]

i enjoy a medium build myself. it allows me to switch between melee long range or mid range and i get to keep moderate mobility. i could never get the tank build to work against bosses.

[Zogtar]

What you use doesn't matter, what matters is that you're having a good time. If you're not having a good time, feel free to use the enemy's weaknesses.