Fires of Raven is the correct ending

[burn1none]

After doing all 3 I still gotta back my boy Walter. I don’t think humanity is ready for Coral and the other two endings made me think calamity is on the way anyways. What are y’all’s thoughts?

[C4NNED]

Coral is far too dangerous in the AC universe to let live. Humans would only screw it up and exploit coral as a fuel source which is essentially just killing them for power. Coral is capable of hacking devices/technology and manipulating machines. We see this on numerous occasions in the game and in one instance a orbital defense satellite shot at the xylem. Making it a ticking time bomb in any high tech society. Walter knows this and doesn't fool himself.

Despite how unfortunate it is Fires of Raven is the BASED ending. A good ending for humanity for sure.

[Netaris]

Originally posted by C4NNED:

Despite how unfortunate it is Fires of Raven is the BASED ending. A good ending for humanity for sure.

Maybe the best for humanity, but the worst for 621 as he belong nowhere anymore. He can't go back, hostile corps wait for him outside of Rubicon and Rubicon is ruined, abandonned. So, 621 is basically condemned to live alone on a dead planet, with only regrets as he betrayed the only person who've sided with him, who've never tried to hurt him. That's the ending that give 621 the most miserable fate, the fate of Walter's abandonned dog, not usefull anymore, never to be seen again.

All this for an humanity that transformed him into a killing machine, never cared about him and tried to kill him several times. The question I ask myself is, is AC6's humanity worth that sacrifice anyway ? From 621 point of view, the best ending by far is siding with Rubicon, as he basically becomùe an hero for both the liberation front and Coral beings.

[burn1none]

Originally posted by Squirberus:

Originally posted by Gearwar:

Yea Fires of Raven is the best ending. Best boss fight, best ending, coolest legacy for 621 as well.

Anyone else kinda facepalm after hearing about the Fires of Ibis the whole time? Felt like I shoulda seen 'Fires of Raven' coming or something. It was just sneaky enough.

Looks at title of game “Fires of Rubicon”. Looks at achievement “Fires of Raven”. Yep I made the correct choice lol

[burn1none]

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Originally posted by Codester:

The All Mind ending is considered the true, actual ending.

Like all other AC games in the past, the stand alone expansion game that will be the sequel to Ac6 will follow that story line. As in it follows true or secret endings each time.

We will no doubt be fighting a lot more coral controlled ACs in the future.

Hopefully we will see actual Coral biomech monstrosities in the expansion/sequel.

I kinda hope you guys are right. From a gameplay perspective the Alea ending may lead to the most interesting gameplay. Imagine fighting a whole faction of acs piloted by ghosts. Maybe even you fight one that can hop between mechs kinda like that old movie Fallen about a demon who could jump bodies so he had to be defeated in isolation

[Gearwar]

Originally posted by Ad Victoriam !:

Originally posted by C4NNED:

Despite how unfortunate it is Fires of Raven is the BASED ending. A good ending for humanity for sure.

Maybe the best for humanity, but the worst for 621 as he belong nowhere anymore. He can't go back, hostile corps wait for him outside of Rubicon and Rubicon is ruined, abandonned. So, 621 is basically condemned to live alone on a dead planet, with only regrets as he betrayed the only person who've sided with him, who've never tried to hurt him. That's the ending that give 621 the most miserable fate, the fate of Walter's abandonned dog, not usefull anymore, never to be seen again.

All this for an humanity that transformed him into a killing machine, never cared about him and tried to kill him several times. The question I ask myself is, is AC6's humanity worth that sacrifice anyway ? From 621 point of view, the best ending by far is siding with Rubicon, as he basically becomùe an hero for both the liberation front and Coral beings.

621 is a complete monster in the armored core universe... he can go back to anything he wants, cause he just gets the job done. And to believe that Ayre was gonna be his waifu past rubicon or Allmind was (lol) is just flatout idiotic. 621 always has to move on.

"Condemned to live alone" lol.. bro 621 is a complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ selling himself out left and right. He is just good at what he does, murdering folks, so he will always be doing 621 things.

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Ad Victoriam !:

Originally posted by C4NNED:

Despite how unfortunate it is Fires of Raven is the BASED ending. A good ending for humanity for sure.

Maybe the best for humanity, but the worst for 621 as he belong nowhere anymore. He can't go back, hostile corps wait for him outside of Rubicon and Rubicon is ruined, abandonned. So, 621 is basically condemned to live alone on a dead planet, with only regrets as he betrayed the only person who've sided with him, who've never tried to hurt him. That's the ending that give 621 the most miserable fate, the fate of Walter's abandonned dog, not usefull anymore, never to be seen again.

All this for an humanity that transformed him into a killing machine, never cared about him and tried to kill him several times. The question I ask myself is, is AC6's humanity worth that sacrifice anyway ? From 621 point of view, the best ending by far is siding with Rubicon, as he basically becomùe an hero for both the liberation front and Coral beings.

What? In the fires of raven ending 621 has made enough money to do what Walter wanted for him all along, to fix the augmentation problems. It also removes all of his ties on rubicon, allowing him to be truly a free man...

[Tustle]

Originally posted by Silamon:

It also removes all of his ties on rubicon, allowing him to be truly a free man...

Free to live as a space hermit trying to dodge the eyes of bounty hunters and vengeance-minded individuals for kickstarting the second great sky blaze?

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Tustle:

Originally posted by Silamon:

It also removes all of his ties on rubicon, allowing him to be truly a free man...

Free to live as a space hermit trying to dodge the eyes of bounty hunters and vengeance-minded individuals for kickstarting the second great sky blaze?

Assuming anyone is going to know who did it? All anyone knows is that someone calling them self Raven caused the fires. Raven was a fake name, all 621 has to do is use a different one and nobody knows the difference. Anyone who would have known is dead.

[Tustle]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Originally posted by Tustle:

Free to live as a space hermit trying to dodge the eyes of bounty hunters and vengeance-minded individuals for kickstarting the second great sky blaze?

Assuming anyone is going to know who did it? All anyone knows is that someone calling them self Raven caused the fires. Raven was a fake name, all 621 has to do is use a different one and nobody knows the difference. Anyone who would have known is dead.

AllMind is an AI and a mercenary support system. Who's to say AllMind is only Rubicon's mercenary support system, and won't be a trifle miffed that you interfered with the Coral Release plan?

especially if we consider how, based on what I've finally noticed near the end of NG++'s chapter 4, AllMind is referring to the player as 'Augmented human C4-621, callsign Raven' instead of 'RB23, callsign Raven.' Don't think AllMind will let a Fires of Raven 621 go so easily.

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Tustle:

Originally posted by Silamon:

Assuming anyone is going to know who did it? All anyone knows is that someone calling them self Raven caused the fires. Raven was a fake name, all 621 has to do is use a different one and nobody knows the difference. Anyone who would have known is dead.

AllMind is an AI and a mercenary support system. Who's to say AllMind is only Rubicon's mercenary support system, and won't be a trifle miffed that you interfered with the Coral Release plan?

especially if we consider how, based on what I've finally noticed near the end of NG++'s chapter 4, AllMind is referring to the player as 'Augmented human C4-621, callsign Raven' instead of 'RB23, callsign Raven.' Don't think AllMind will let a Fires of Raven 621 go so easily.

Allmind was destroyed at the end of NG++, I don't see any reason it would have survived fires of Raven any better.

[Samnson]

Coral isn't... human.
And frankly its barely classifiable as something living;

Its all just errant brain patterns that expresses itself in intelligent ways.
Especially when you consider that it is used up like Nuclear fuel.

It fuels machines with the ability to Murder tons of people while staying active for Millennia.

And in the other endings..?
They basically want to Genocide humanity itself.
They want to break down what it means to be human and turn everyone into Coral.

By forcing human evolution in favor of the Coral itself;

Coral is an Alien entity that multiplies exponentially with no limits like space and resources.
And it wants to consume humanity on its growth path.

♥♥♥♥ the Coral, burn it all away.

[*maKaRON!!]

Humanity is weighed down by Earth's Corporate Greed

- Char Rubicon Aznable

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Samnson:

Coral isn't... human.
And frankly its barely classifiable as something living;

Its all just errant brain patterns that expresses itself in intelligent ways.
Especially when you consider that it is used up like Nuclear fuel.

It fuels machines with the ability to Murder tons of people while staying active for Millennia.


♥♥♥♥ the Coral, burn it all away.

I'd argue the coral is essentially perpetual energy. The reason the coral powered machines last so long is that the fuel is literally regrowing as it is being burned. You put gas in the tank and it runs forever....

And that's without considering its data storage and transmission capability... Small wonder the corporations want it so badly.

It definitely needs a good exterminatus IMO. Humanity can't be trusted with something like that even if it were not sentient at all.

[javla]

I personally don't think there is a correct or right ending to begin with, as much as ALLMIND is being painted as an villain, her purpose is to preserve humanity but who is there to define what humanity is in the first place? However, that doesn't mean ti's good or bad, every ending opens up new possibility for humankind, burning all of coral doesn't mean genocide, preserving all of coral doesn't mean there is no new corporate to continue steal coral and maybe furthermore flaming to more conflict and eventually leading up to true extinction of coral, releasing all of coral doesn't mean preserving humanity as it takes away human's body to reproduce and physical emotion and limitation. The point is there is no answer to a ruined world with nothing left but a bunch of energy that we don't understand fully, either you recognise coral as a spiritual being or energy, the same energy lead to destruction of Rubicon.

[Tustle]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Originally posted by Tustle:

AllMind is an AI and a mercenary support system. Who's to say AllMind is only Rubicon's mercenary support system, and won't be a trifle miffed that you interfered with the Coral Release plan?

especially if we consider how, based on what I've finally noticed near the end of NG++'s chapter 4, AllMind is referring to the player as 'Augmented human C4-621, callsign Raven' instead of 'RB23, callsign Raven.' Don't think AllMind will let a Fires of Raven 621 go so easily.

Allmind was destroyed at the end of NG++, I don't see any reason it would have survived fires of Raven any better.

'Allmind' as we know it was also taken over by an Iguana riddled with delusions of grandeur of whom hooked up to the AI at the time, both of whom if I understand that ending correctly from what I've seen (in that I haven't reached that point yet) had their attention focused squarely upon 621.

Also I'd imagine the entirety of Allmind was summarily altered by the Release after it occurred, not, say, have remote nodes burnt away in the immediate vicinity of Rubicon while the rest of her was still free to act elsewhere doing cog knows what space mischief to the one who stopped her plans.