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Why Carla tried to kill 621 in first place, major spoiler!!!
So there is something what doesnt make scence and is like a major plot hole and im still thinking about it. Carla and Walter are survivers of the "Fire of ibis" and have a secret Club the "Overseer". So Walta and Carla are real close with each other and they mission is to ignite the fire of ibis again. To kill all the coral because they afraid of it. But why then is carla trying to kill 621 in the beginning? She should know from Walters new hound and how important he is to they mission. Also why is Walter allowing to attack Carlas base if 621 can just get access by asking. It doesnt make any scence. 621 is Walters last card and he treats him with respect and cares about him , allowing carla to kill 621 or damaging him for no purpose seems very unlikable. also why is carla calling 621 tourist? And why shes sad hes walters new hound? If u put all this facts in a real world scenario it wouldnt work out or would be very very stupid.
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zmanbuilder Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:19pm 
Walter did not allow it, thats the point, you went on your own
Citizen of Zozo Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:20pm 
Walter was away on his own business when Ayre pushed 621 into taking that mission to attack Carla's hideout. This isn't complicated. If Walter had been present, the whole mission could have been avoided.
On the upside, it allowed 621 to impress Carla.
Silamon Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:20pm 
621 invades Carla's place without Handler walter's involvement. You go because Ayre wanted you to.

Because of that, Carla probably didn't know who you were other than some AC pilot attacking her stuff. She figures it out later.
John Titor Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:23pm 
Originally posted by Friendly Lizard KING:
Why Carla tried to kill 621 in first place, major spoiler!!!
Because 621 used Zimmers and Carla a jealous, vindictive ♥♥♥♥♥.
The Zone is Real Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by Silamon:
621 invades Carla's place without Handler walter's involvement. You go because Ayre wanted you to.

Because of that, Carla probably didn't know who you were other than some AC pilot attacking her stuff. She figures it out later.
If 621 is Walters hound. how its even possible he goes to a mission without asking Walter for acceptance. Walters literally owns ur AC and the equipment. A race car driver also cant just take "his"F1 car and drives privet, he has to ask the company first. 621 owns nothing and is more likely just an employe. Walter is the company owner and owns everything. But yeah 621 can just take a walk with a 20.000.000 € AC and go to a dangerous mission what maybe kill him. Walter should have secret measurements to avoid this even it should happen, like cameras etc. Its just doesnt work out and is very stupid no offence
Silamon Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:29pm 
Originally posted by Friendly Lizard KING:
Originally posted by Silamon:
621 invades Carla's place without Handler walter's involvement. You go because Ayre wanted you to.

Because of that, Carla probably didn't know who you were other than some AC pilot attacking her stuff. She figures it out later.
If 621 is Walters hound. how its even possible he goes to a mission without asking Walter for acceptance. Walters literally owns ur AC and the equipment. A race car driver also cant just take "his"F1 car and drives privet, he has to ask the company first. 621 owns nothing and is more likely just an employe. Walter is the company owner and owns everything. But yeah 621 can just take a walk with a 20.000.000 € AC and go to a dangerous mission what maybe kill him. Walter should have secret measurements to avoid this even it should happen, like cameras etc. Its just doesnt work out and is very stupid no offence
Yes? Walter didn't expect 621 to act on his own. 621 wouldn't have acted on his own. 621 did not act on his own.

621 had Ayre wanting him to help her. So he did something Walter didn't expect...

When Walter returns in the next mission he is surprised that you acted on your own, but after realizing what you are up to he tells you to keep going.
Last edited by Silamon; Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:29pm
The Zone is Real Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by Silamon:
Originally posted by Friendly Lizard KING:
If 621 is Walters hound. how its even possible he goes to a mission without asking Walter for acceptance. Walters literally owns ur AC and the equipment. A race car driver also cant just take "his"F1 car and drives privet, he has to ask the company first. 621 owns nothing and is more likely just an employe. Walter is the company owner and owns everything. But yeah 621 can just take a walk with a 20.000.000 € AC and go to a dangerous mission what maybe kill him. Walter should have secret measurements to avoid this even it should happen, like cameras etc. Its just doesnt work out and is very stupid no offence
Yes? Walter didn't expect 621 to act on his own. 621 wouldn't have acted on his own. 621 did not act on his own.

621 had Ayre wanting him to help her. So he did something Walter didn't expect...
Its like u want to tell me no AC Pilot befor 617,618,619,620 etc etc tried to escape? It only works if i turn off 99% of my brain. Walter should have a trillion € company to support all the mechs with parts and ammo and repairs plus supply them and lots of workers or roboters. Its like u can go out and in Walters base how u like and nobody checks it? To be honest Walter has an own satelite to track 621 AC thats what i believe otherwise the connection would be not possible in a mission.
zmanbuilder Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:39pm 
You are a 4th gen augmented pilot with a fried brain, Walter almost seems a little proud when you start to think for yourself.
The Zone is Real Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by Silamon:
Originally posted by Friendly Lizard KING:
If 621 is Walters hound. how its even possible he goes to a mission without asking Walter for acceptance. Walters literally owns ur AC and the equipment. A race car driver also cant just take "his"F1 car and drives privet, he has to ask the company first. 621 owns nothing and is more likely just an employe. Walter is the company owner and owns everything. But yeah 621 can just take a walk with a 20.000.000 € AC and go to a dangerous mission what maybe kill him. Walter should have secret measurements to avoid this even it should happen, like cameras etc. Its just doesnt work out and is very stupid no offence
Yes? Walter didn't expect 621 to act on his own. 621 wouldn't have acted on his own. 621 did not act on his own.

621 had Ayre wanting him to help her. So he did something Walter didn't expect...

When Walter returns in the next mission he is surprised that you acted on your own, but after realizing what you are up to he tells you to keep going.
Try to sneak a lambo out from the lamborghini company. Nobody would expect this and remember an AC should cost 1000 Lamborghinis. It doesnt make scence
The Zone is Real Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:42pm 
Originally posted by zmanbuilder:
You are a 4th gen augmented pilot with a fried brain, Walter almost seems a little proud when you start to think for yourself.
Maybe, but ur still Walters hound, just a dog who needs to do his job. And ur only reason to exist is to fullfill ur mission and maybe getting ur freedom after it. Everything what could endanger the mission is a threat and Walter would not accept it in the real world.
Null Winter Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:43pm 
First of all, you outright say the spoiler right in thread title, so you aren't really hiding much.

Secondly, I actually made a thread mentioning how Walter allowing 621 to accept missions without approval almost/actually ruins his plans outright. As others mentioned, if he wasn't an idiot, then he could have accepted that mission and worked with 621 and Carla to subvert it, getting paid while causing as little damage as possible.
The Zone is Real Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:45pm 
Originally posted by Citizen of Zozo:
Walter was away on his own business when Ayre pushed 621 into taking that mission to attack Carla's hideout. This isn't complicated. If Walter had been present, the whole mission could have been avoided.
On the upside, it allowed 621 to impress Carla.
Saying this isnt complicated means it is very stupid and cant work in a real world scenario?
twiggy Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:50pm 
Originally posted by Friendly Lizard KING:
Originally posted by zmanbuilder:
You are a 4th gen augmented pilot with a fried brain, Walter almost seems a little proud when you start to think for yourself.
Maybe, but ur still Walters hound, just a dog who needs to do his job. And ur only reason to exist is to fullfill ur mission and maybe getting ur freedom after it. Everything what could endanger the mission is a threat and Walter would not accept it in the real world.
but 621 is an independent merc, walter just handles the deals, 621 ultimately decides which mission or deal he wants to pursue, hes not a slave
The Zone is Real Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Null Winter:
First of all, you outright say the spoiler right in thread title, so you aren't really hiding much.

Secondly, I actually made a thread mentioning how Walter allowing 621 to accept missions without approval almost/actually ruins his plans outright. As others mentioned, if he wasn't an idiot, then he could have accepted that mission and worked with 621 and Carla to subvert it, getting paid while causing as little damage as possible.
Yeah it doesnt make scence. In Elden Ring or Dark Souls its ok to leave loopholes because its fantasy. But this is more a realistic sci-fi game and loopholes feel just really cheap and dumb. Walter woudnt be a company owner if he had such charackter. As a business owner, u cant just allow ur 2 weeks in job employe to take care of ur 200.000.000 € yacht while ur 1 week in holiday. Which ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ business owner would do this??
zmanbuilder Sep 4, 2023 @ 3:56pm 
Originally posted by twiggy:
Originally posted by Friendly Lizard KING:
Maybe, but ur still Walters hound, just a dog who needs to do his job. And ur only reason to exist is to fullfill ur mission and maybe getting ur freedom after it. Everything what could endanger the mission is a threat and Walter would not accept it in the real world.
but 621 is an independent merc, walter just handles the deals, 621 ultimately decides which mission or deal he wants to pursue, hes not a slave

You are a hound under the cover of a independent merc, you are a product that walter bought. But walter is not evil, he lets you think for yourself.
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