I got the Karasawa...

[Fire Cougar]

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. What was the point in grinding all those combat logs?

Horrible ammo efficiency compared to the Nebula and standard plasma rifle. Takes a while to build up to full charge which would not be an issue until you realize it costs TEN shots of your initial 80 for really lackluster damage output. Uncharged it is a joke against the Trainer AC, as useful as a peashooter. First stage charge is 4 shots and does about as much damage as a regular plasma gun maybe.

There is literally no reason to not just use an energy shotgun or the nebula over this thing. It is incredibly disappointing for a weapon you have to grind to get half way into your NG+ play through. Hell just a single shot from a zimmerman point blank hits harder.

One of the most iconic weapons in the whole series is kind of a joke compared to two shotguns and a couple grenade launchers that you get in your first play through. ♥♥♥♥♥ broken.

[Piderman]

Originally posted by Mountain Cat Mechwarrior:

One of the most iconic weapons in the whole series is kind of a joke compared to two shotguns and a couple grenade launchers that you get in your first play through. ♥♥♥♥♥ broken.

And...? AC4 and 5 also had Karasawas that were forgetable at best.

[Clockmed The Teenage Terror]

most of the energy guns in this game are underminded. They feel like a second thought. devs didnt care that much.

[Caveman Smash]

sweet so it is in the game ,,,, spoilers bro

[Piderman]

Originally posted by Clockmed The Teenage Terror:

most of the energy guns in this game are underminded. They feel like a second thought. devs didnt care that much.

They feel kinda unfinished tbh. Terrible against pretty much anything and you even have to pay for the "ammo".

[thorin.hannahs]

Originally posted by Mountain Cat Mechwarrior:

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. What was the point in grinding all those combat logs?

Horrible ammo efficiency compared to the Nebula and standard plasma rifle. Takes a while to build up to full charge which would not be an issue until you realize it costs TEN shots of your initial 80 for really lackluster damage output. Uncharged it is a joke against the Trainer AC, as useful as a peashooter. First stage charge is 4 shots and does about as much damage as a regular plasma gun maybe.

There is literally no reason to not just use an energy shotgun or the nebula over this thing. It is incredibly disappointing for a weapon you have to grind to get half way into your NG+ play through. Hell just a single shot from a zimmerman point blank hits harder.

One of the most iconic weapons in the whole series is kind of a joke compared to two shotguns and a couple grenade launchers that you get in your first play through. ♥♥♥♥♥ broken.

Brother I feel your pain but I have not given up hope. I don't think there is a plasma weapon that can match the rate of fire of the Karasawa. I am ignoring the 2 charge shots available as my smooth brain can't handle charge and shoot and animation locks.

[Fire Cougar]

Originally posted by Piderman:

Originally posted by Mountain Cat Mechwarrior:

One of the most iconic weapons in the whole series is kind of a joke compared to two shotguns and a couple grenade launchers that you get in your first play through. ♥♥♥♥♥ broken.

And...? AC4 and 5 also had Karasawas that were forgetable at best.

That too sounds incredibly disappointing. You're also leaving out all of the other games where the Karasawa absolutely slaps. Whats your point? That because it was bad in two previous games that it should also be bad in a game where it takes more effort to get rather than just tripping over it in a late mission on your first play through?

[Piderman]

Originally posted by Mountain Cat Mechwarrior:

Whats your point? That because it was bad in two previous games that it should also be bad in a game where it takes more effort to get rather than just tripping over it in a late mission on your first play through?

No, its just that "Karasawa" doesnt stand for a unique and viable gun any more. Its just "unique" these days and thats it.
edit: the Coral Guns pretty much took its place.

[Fire Cougar]

Originally posted by Caveman:

sweet so it is in the game ,,,, spoilers bro

It really isnt worth it anyway. If you want power just get the rocket treads with two zimms and two grenade launchers. Takes all the difficulty out of the game, to the point where I only bring it out to deal with high difficulty missions.

[𝐿𝑒𝓃𝑜𝓇𝑒]

I quite like that 6 takes weapons that have a long history of being flat out the best in their category (Moonlight, Kara) and makes other weapons be better than them. It's boring having the same iconic weapons being the best in every game.

[Piderman]

Originally posted by ✩✮ ~𝐿𝓊𝒸𝓎~ ✮✩:

I quite like that 6 takes weapons that have a long history of being flat out the best in their category (Moonlight, Kara) and makes other weapons be better than them. It's boring having the same iconic weapons being the best in every game.

Moonlight and Redshift arent even that bad.

[Caveman Smash]

Originally posted by Mountain Cat Mechwarrior:

Originally posted by Caveman:

sweet so it is in the game ,,,, spoilers bro

It really isnt worth it anyway. If you want power just get the rocket treads with two zimms and two grenade launchers. Takes all the difficulty out of the game, to the point where I only bring it out to deal with high difficulty missions.

But how does it look ?
ehh i can be a fashion player at times if it has the look ill find a way to use it

[BKo]

Challenge: Make a viable build using the sawa.
Impossible mode: Dual Sawas.

[thorin.hannahs]

Originally posted by Caveman:

Originally posted by Mountain Cat Mechwarrior:

It really isnt worth it anyway. If you want power just get the rocket treads with two zimms and two grenade launchers. Takes all the difficulty out of the game, to the point where I only bring it out to deal with high difficulty missions.

But how does it look ?
ehh i can be a fashion player at times if it has the look ill find a way to use it

It do be looking cool it just weighs a metric ♥♥♥♥ ton.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/thorinhannahs/screenshot/2056510796262253306/

[Fire Cougar]

Originally posted by Piderman:

Originally posted by Mountain Cat Mechwarrior:

Whats your point? That because it was bad in two previous games that it should also be bad in a game where it takes more effort to get rather than just tripping over it in a late mission on your first play through?

No, its just that "Karasawa" doesnt stand for a unique and viable gun any more. Its just "unique" these days and thats it.
edit: the Coral Guns pretty much took its place.

Okay, that still really isnt a good reason for the karasawa to be not really any better than any other energy weapon you get in your first playthrough. Wheres the reward in grinding for it?

[thorin.hannahs]

Originally posted by BKo:

Challenge: Make a viable build using the sawa.
Impossible mode: Dual Sawas.

I am trying...