The possibility of a sequel is strong from what I can see. What do you guys think?

[y u kik me?]

Story wise there is still rusty and the RLF that wasn't shown at all during the final missions. Not to mention The expansion of Coral means more corporations will now have a chance to fight for it instead of just major ones. The purpose of the Coral controlled AC's, Ayre and Raven's new goal etc. The creators of ALLMIND, Surely that AI didn't just come to be by itself?

Other than that there are some things that could be added in game like extensions in the old game where you can equip flares or anti missiles etc. Inside weapons, ammo storages to increase your ammo count per mission, floating mines etc. And maybe even a possible coop missions? Idk, but the ice worm mission looks like a perfect test for some kind of coop raid missions. (hopefully)

Sales wise may not be better than Elden Ring, but I believe they already knew about that before committing to it. The devs really love Armored Core as a franchise, considering the amount of marketing they did for this game despite it always being a niche genre. They seem motivated on expanding more of these again as well. I maybe counting my chickens before they hatch as Rusty would put it... but idk, I think it's highly possible. Maybe ER DLC first then AC DLC or sequel?

[thorin.hannahs]

Originally posted by MisterMann:

Originally posted by thorin.hannahs:

I'd take a sequel to AC6 or go right into AC7 over a DLC.

Knowing the franchise, they would more likely make a continuation or side story with preexisting stuff given that AC1-5 aren't the only AC games in the series with those games improving upon the main titles elements while continuing to add other stuff.

I am 100% on board with this. I just struggle with saying likely given the 11 year hiatus that AC went through.

[Unknown]

Originally posted by DeltaV112:

You said "genre" and I pointed out how the genres this game fits in are full of space magic. Don't try and move the goalposts and say it's just about this franchise. You've also talked about sci-fi yourself multiple times.

The franchise is sci-fi. If it's scientifically sound in the game, how does magic fit into it? AC already has AI to control machines, why would it need magic spirits to do the same?

Originally posted by DeltaV112:

Thematically because it fits in with the past transhumanism themes and how governments and corporations exploit people? That Coral has been literally exploited as a resource is a way to go from how the machinations and greed of the powerful hurt people. You can draw an straight line from Omer and the Closed Plan to AC6's corporations and how they act towards Coral and Rubicon generally.

Except that Kojima isn't sentient & is purely an inanimate resource used by corporations. It doesn't have it's own will, like Coral, as if it's another major player in the balance of power, as portrayed in the 3rd ending when they started possessing downed ACs when they were released.

And regarding transhumanism. That's a scientific term, not some sort of unexplainable space magic like how Coral is. Walter calls it "augmentation." Ayre/All Mind calls it "symbiosis." However, given the seemingly magical properties of Coral, the more accurate term would be "possession," which as I've said before, outlandish for how this franchise is known to be.

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Unknown:

Originally posted by Silamon:

I would argue that Sentient AI in the 90s was pretty much space magic, hell it's still close now. Machine learning is not capable of anything close to what the ai controlling 9 ball could do.

And frankly, the coral is basically sentient AI anyway. They used the stuff for computers and other technology before the fires of Rubicon in addition to as a power source because it is good at transmitting information... When the fires of Rubicon happened the minds of people killed were stored as information in the coral.

Space magic.

What does sentient AI from the 90's have anything to do with Nineball or Armored Core?

"AI" means "artificial intelligence." Coral, as what the game says, is "natural resource." They are, in no way, the same. I have no gripe with it being used as a power source. It's basically just the modern equivalent of Kojima in this entry. My problem is it's inherent properties, mainly it being sentient & has consciousness & could possess machines & inhabit the minds of humans. That something you'd expect to see in Dark Souls & Elden Ring.

It's precisely why I can't take the story of this entry seriously, it has no bearing to the theme.

Have you played the original games?
9 ball was controlled by sentient AI that was trying to make the corporations fight each other forever so they wouldn't return to the surface. Hell a lot of the AC games are you dealing with sentient AIs...

Coral was being used in computers to carry and store information.... That's why it was possible to store the dying people's brains in it with the mutation.

It's space magic. Both of them.

Edit: and for the above... Have you seen Star Trek? You can literally describe half their "tech" as space magic.

[Unknown]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Have you played the original games?
9 ball was controlled by sentient AI that was trying to make the corporations fight each other forever so they wouldn't return to the surface.

Coral was being used in computers to carry and store information.... That's why it was possible to store the dying people's brains in it with the mutation.

It's space magic. Both of them.

I did, apart from Ninebreaker & Formula Front.

Nineball isn't controlled by a sentient AI, it is the sentient AI & was created.
And you're mistaking Nineball from The Controller; Nineball is the one keeping major corporations in constant battle with each other, while The Controller is the one who is trying to keep humanity from resurfacing.

I understand that it's being used a power source. My problem with it is how it's conscious & can somehow interact with humans & control machines.

It's difficult to take the sci-fi of AC seriously when you involve that kind of magic in it.

*Barely. And I have no intention of using Star Trek or any other IP, for that matter, to debate the story of Armored Core.

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Unknown:

Originally posted by Silamon:

Have you played the original games?
9 ball was controlled by sentient AI that was trying to make the corporations fight each other forever so they wouldn't return to the surface.

Coral was being used in computers to carry and store information.... That's why it was possible to store the dying people's brains in it with the mutation.

It's space magic. Both of them.

I did, apart from Ninebreaker & Formula Front.

Nineball isn't controlled by a sentient AI, it is the sentient AI & was created.
And you're mistaking Nineball from The Controller; Nineball is the one keeping major corporations in constant battle with each other, while The Controller is the one who is trying to keep humanity from resurfacing.

I understand that it's being used a power source. My problem with it is how it's conscious & can somehow interact with humans & control machines.

It's difficult to take the sci-fi of AC seriously when you involve that kind of magic in it.

*Barely. And I have no intention of using Star Trek or any other IP, for that matter, to debate the story of Armored Core.

Nine ball is controlled by the controller.... Which is the sentient AI. It's not a separate ai. The nineballs you can fight in later games are much easier because the AI is gone.

Coral can control devices and interact with humans because it is space magic that took the minds of people that died into its data... Like an AI.


Lots of Sci Fi gadgets are basically just space magic. This isn't really something you need to debate. Just look at the stuff in Gundam, they had crazy particles too... Even Battletech has space magic transparent armor that can block heavy cannon rounds to protect a cockpit.

[Faunts]

Originally posted by y u kik me?:

Originally posted by Leonhardt:

to be honest I'm not really concerned with the story
I just want new parts to play with!

Fair enough! Flares, or anti missile would be great since that would balance the destructiveness of quad missiles in pvp. And LC's already have those so it would be easy to add in I suppose.

The game is missing sniper rifles, gun arms, shoulder mounted autocannons, machine guns, and mortars, and of course the game is really light on available chassis.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by Punished Papa:

Originally posted by y u kik me?:

Fair enough! Flares, or anti missile would be great since that would balance the destructiveness of quad missiles in pvp. And LC's already have those so it would be easy to add in I suppose.

The game is missing sniper rifles, gun arms, shoulder mounted autocannons, machine guns, and mortars, and of course the game is really light on available chassis.

There's only 2 quad legs too...that's probably the single biggest "What the hell?" thing to me.

For as big a deal as they wanted quads to be with the new hover function the fact that there's only 2 of them is confounding to me.

[Leonhardt]

Something that'd be cool would be more Core Expansions.
>MDD: Cloaks your AC from view and scan, but causes errors with your Radar. Firing weapons causes the stealth to run out faster. Can have like 3 uses.
>Limiter Release: Uses the power that would go into Assault Armor or Pulse Armor to supercharge your Generator, giving you Infinite Energy for a time. Single Use.
>Immortality Protocol: Completely restores your AP and ACS once when AP hits 0. Single Use, automatic.

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Leonhardt:

Something that'd be cool would be more Core Expansions.
>MDD: Cloaks your AC from view and scan, but causes errors with your Radar. Firing weapons causes the stealth to run out faster. Can have like 3 uses.
>Limiter Release: Uses the power that would go into Assault Armor or Pulse Armor to supercharge your Generator, giving you Infinite Energy for a time. Single Use.
>Immortality Protocol: Completely restores your AP and ACS once when AP hits 0. Single Use, automatic.

Wouldn't the last one just be way better version of terminal armor?

[Midas]

Armored core doesn't really do direct sequels, so the state of the world at the end of AC6 doesn't matter. The only stipulation is that some kind of canon ending would have to allow Coral to still exist, unless they remove all the coral-based parts from the game in the next AC6.

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Midas:

Armored core doesn't really do direct sequels, so the state of the world at the end of AC6 doesn't matter. The only stipulation is that some kind of canon ending would have to allow Coral to still exist, unless they remove all the coral-based parts from the game in the next AC6.

AC4a was a direct sequel, happens only a few years after ac4. I'm pretty sure last raven happens not long after silent line as well but its been a while.

[Aldain]

Speaking of core expansions, I'd love to see something like an "Overdrive" that massively increases the power of your boosters for a short time at the price of inflicting ACS overload (like from the flamethrower).

[Leonhardt]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Originally posted by Leonhardt:

Something that'd be cool would be more Core Expansions.
>MDD: Cloaks your AC from view and scan, but causes errors with your Radar. Firing weapons causes the stealth to run out faster. Can have like 3 uses.
>Limiter Release: Uses the power that would go into Assault Armor or Pulse Armor to supercharge your Generator, giving you Infinite Energy for a time. Single Use.
>Immortality Protocol: Completely restores your AP and ACS once when AP hits 0. Single Use, automatic.

Wouldn't the last one just be way better version of terminal armor?

Terminal Armor makes you "invincible" for a sec, versus just restoring your AP

[Midas]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Originally posted by Midas:

Armored core doesn't really do direct sequels, so the state of the world at the end of AC6 doesn't matter. The only stipulation is that some kind of canon ending would have to allow Coral to still exist, unless they remove all the coral-based parts from the game in the next AC6.

AC4a was a direct sequel, happens only a few years after ac4. I'm pretty sure last raven happens not long after silent line as well but its been a while.

I probably should have said "doesn't USUALLY do".

[poppindancers]

Originally posted by Midas:

Armored core doesn't really do direct sequels, so the state of the world at the end of AC6 doesn't matter. The only stipulation is that some kind of canon ending would have to allow Coral to still exist, unless they remove all the coral-based parts from the game in the next AC6.

However, Armored Core always do 1 expansions after the title, so we can somewhat expect a further exploration and customization in it.