Intercept the Red Guns

[Raster]

How do you do this one? The usual dual Gatling/dual songbird doesn't work, since you run out of Gatling ammo from all the popcorn enemies, which you can't reasonably clear out before G1 shows up to cover the entire area with constant explosions and super saiyan dodges that are very fair and balanced.

[Korinth]

Take a melee weapon, no ammos no problems. You use the guns for the minions. You have a cover in the center of the map so use it.

Or then you can take the OS upgrade to have guns on your shoulders and you take four guns instead of two.

[sudebu]

two bad cooks, songbirds/stun needle.

[Silly]

I used dual shotguns and 2 rocket launchers but my most used attack was a nice kick to the face. Even had ammo to spare when I finished the mission.
I'm also using the heaviest reverse jointed legs with a few other heavy parts to have a nice balance between AP and mobility.

[Raster]

Originally posted by Hahli:

Take a melee weapon, no ammos no problems. You use the guns for the minions. You have a cover in the center of the map so use it.

Or then you can take the OS upgrade to have guns on your shoulders and you take four guns instead of two.

If you try to melee, all you see is a massive explosion and he's suddenly on the other end of the map. You can't get that close. I don't even know what weapon he's using. I beat him in the Arena so I have his schematic, but it only tells you that you can't build it, not what's missing, so I can't see if the game is just making up parts for AI that players don't get. It's likely at this point. Cheating is the only option.

[Null Winter]

I used double shotguns and double ten-cell standard missiles; the multi-lock on ten cell can pretty efficiently take out most scrubs aside from the shielders and point-blanking G1 with both shotguns followed by the full barrage will rip most of his AP out. Just for funsies, I punched the last few scrub MT enemies out, since they go down in three punches and you conveniently get a three-hit combo with punches before that arm goes on cooldown.

[Raster]

Originally posted by sudebu:

two bad cooks, songbirds/stun needle.

The Bad Cooks run out of ammo too quickly to handle the 18,543 drones and MT's that you also need to kill. It didn't work when I tried that combo.

[Korinth]

Originally posted by Raster:

Originally posted by Hahli:

Take a melee weapon, no ammos no problems. You use the guns for the minions. You have a cover in the center of the map so use it.

Or then you can take the OS upgrade to have guns on your shoulders and you take four guns instead of two.

If you try to melee, all you see is a massive explosion and he's suddenly on the other end of the map. You can't get that close. I don't even know what weapon he's using. I beat him in the Arena so I have his schematic, but it only tells you that you can't build it, not what's missing, so I can't see if the game is just making up parts for AI that players don't get. It's likely at this point. Cheating is the only option.

I did him on melee though...

[Silly]

Originally posted by Hahli:

Originally posted by Raster:

If you try to melee, all you see is a massive explosion and he's suddenly on the other end of the map. You can't get that close. I don't even know what weapon he's using. I beat him in the Arena so I have his schematic, but it only tells you that you can't build it, not what's missing, so I can't see if the game is just making up parts for AI that players don't get. It's likely at this point. Cheating is the only option.

I did him on melee though...

Same, I was almost able to constantly stunlock him with melee kicks and dual Zimmerman shotguns.

[Citizen of Zozo]

I used the laser lance.

[ImHelping]

While I am skipping this one until NG+ , my love of linear rifle is generally a solution to "I want to kill every single MT in existence and still have ammo to kill an AC" because it is basically a heavy rifle that can target small drones well, with charged shots that can one hit kill/stun most MT in the game that are not elite ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. it has something like 300-400 ammo.

It WILL get the job done even if it is surprisingly ♥♥♥♥ against armored cores because they love to input read evade the charged shot (good bait to make them dodge into a laser cannon, though)

The second line rifle has stronger shots, but you overheat it with one charged shot. and like, "only" over 200 ammo. But it hurts AC better to sprinkle with basic shots.

Also consider the basic or medium bazooka with 70 or 50 ammo or some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Weaker than grenades, but again. 70 to 50 ammo. The super bazooka that looks like a metal spike is stronger, but you WILL feel that 40ish ammo capacity using it to sweep up MT first.

[Raster]

Originally posted by Silly:

Originally posted by Hahli:

I did him on melee though...

Same, I was almost able to constantly stunlock him with melee kicks and dual Zimmerman shotguns.

Zimmerman does no damage to him, and if it does, he cheats and heals to full when you break his ACS. Guessing the AI has estus flasks, too, but theirs are way better.

Trying to melee him, I either get locked on the approach or he does the explosion teleport thing. Plus the dozens of enemies messing with my lock and making it generally chaotic. The drones can dodge all of my missiles too, making the 10-pods useless. The only thing that works is very fast and rapid fire like a minigun, but the ammo is gone before G1 even shows up.

[Raster]

Originally posted by Citizen of Zozo:

I used the laser lance.

I gave that a shot, too. I've tried every melee weapon I have available. The lance's windup on a charge attack is too slow. G1 kicks me out of it every time. The game definitely reads inputs.

[RX-3DR]

Melee can break the shielded MTs in one go and finish off the quadruped MT on a stagger. Kick the basic MTs where possible to save ammo. Prioritize MTs with the stagger cannons whenever they appear.

Missile multilock can help to clean up the tiny helicopters and are still viable against G1. Bigger missile racks will delete MTs in a single salvo for you to fire and forget and move on to another target.

It's probably the only fight where MT grunts actually pose a threat but only because they can stop you from instagibbing the main target.

You just need a decent right hand weapon to finish a stagger bar after landing some missiles while kiting the MT crowd.

[zmanbuilder]

a good sniper can one shot most of the mooks, but the shield guys are a pain, plus the 2 heavy tetras

[Citizen of Zozo]

Originally posted by Raster:

Originally posted by Citizen of Zozo:

I used the laser lance.

I gave that a shot, too. I've tried every melee weapon I have available. The lance's windup on a charge attack is too slow. G1 kicks me out of it every time. The game definitely reads inputs.

Really? He was a huge sucker for it in my experience. Obviously you got to pick your moment, but I think it's pretty easy to land.