[Spoilers] What is Coral?

[CRISTALESCUITE]

Just finished the third ending and the whole coral idea sounds really stupid, the game suggests coral is a living being that was born in rubicom but that doesn't mean it should think or have feelings, I would understand if an IA was using coral as a host but it doesn't look like that either, the idea of being able to put your conscious into coral sounds like to much of a fantasy to me too, didn't play many Amored Core games but this plot doesn't sound right.

[Korinth]

I'm lost with those gen things honestly
Maybe we talk to her just because we took the blast of coral in the face

[KharnTheKhan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Hahli:

I'm lost with those gen things honestly :taloslol:
Maybe we talk to her just because we took the last of coral in the face

Yeah we can talk to her because we were hit with coral, The rubicon liberation guy was the same way along with Walter because he was a scientist during Fires of Ibis(thats his friend he talks to)

[CRISTALESCUITE]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Omikron1328:

Like Eureka Seven AO coral maybe? It's been long since i watched it. But it is sort of living mineral as well?

Never heard of it, didn't watch that many mecha animes too.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Soybo:

What do you mean it sounds like too much of a fantasy to you? It's a fairly normal humanistic concept. It does bring into the philosophical question of is the coral you actually the same person, or just a clone with all your memories.

Yeah kinda, I don't mind the ideia of making clones of your conscious it just sounds like a stretch that it can do the things it can so weel.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Hahli:

No seriously it's often a theme in sci fi : there's life on others planets but it's so small that it's irrelevant for us so we come and stomp on it to take everything for ourselves.

I watched the anime Exception not long ago on netflix, exactly this trope.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/49163/Exception
The art was weird but it wasn't that bad.

This Sure is an weird art.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Hahli:

Yeah you can dope yourself with it. That's why you can talk with Ayre, you're "full of it" because you're a pilot modified with it to be better with your AC.

The Ideia that everyone is on drugs sounds a lot better than that something this magicial exists on a story about greed corporations and killer AIs.

[KharnTheKhan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av CRISTALESCUITE:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Omikron1328:

Like Eureka Seven AO coral maybe? It's been long since i watched it. But it is sort of living mineral as well?

Never heard of it, didn't watch that many mecha animes too.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Soybo:

What do you mean it sounds like too much of a fantasy to you? It's a fairly normal humanistic concept. It does bring into the philosophical question of is the coral you actually the same person, or just a clone with all your memories.

Yeah kinda, I don't mind the ideia of making clones of your conscious it just sounds like a stretch that it can do the things it can so weel.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Hahli:

No seriously it's often a theme in sci fi : there's life on others planets but it's so small that it's irrelevant for us so we come and stomp on it to take everything for ourselves.

I watched the anime Exception not long ago on netflix, exactly this trope.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/49163/Exception
The art was weird but it wasn't that bad.

This Sure is an weird art.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Hahli:

Yeah you can dope yourself with it. That's why you can talk with Ayre, you're "full of it" because you're a pilot modified with it to be better with your AC.

The Ideia that everyone is on drugs sounds a lot better than that something this magicial exists on a story about greed corporations and killer AIs.

Is this your first AC game? AC often has themes like this the big bad of AC1 was an ai and many other AC games, the big bad of this game is an Ai with Coral manipulation being another goal for the Ai

[Heatnixx]

Basically a substance that can be used as energy source and data conduction.
Due to some event I forgot about it caused a cataclysmic event (think of setting fire to an oil well but on a global scale), and thanks to Coral's insane energy potential, it scorched the entire solar system of Rubicon.

Eventually as the story progresses we find out due to its properties, it basically became a biological neural network, with many consciousness existing within it.
Ayre, one of the Coral's many consciousness and the one that 'infects' your Armored Core during the Coral surge before the Balteus fight, doesn't want to die and instead asks you to help her find a third option, a way through which both humans and Coral can thrive together.

That third option is what the game constantly hints at since the start; complete symbiosis between humans and Coral, like Humans and gut bacteria, or cells and mitochondrias, basically making the augmentation surgeries (Human+ such as yourself, Rusty or Snail) useless and turning all humans into a better, biological version of augmented humans.

[CRISTALESCUITE]

Ursprungligen skrivet av NeroMacharius:

Is this your first AC game? AC often has themes like this the big bad of AC1 was an ai, the big bad of this game is an Ai with Coral manipulation being another goal for the Ai

Played all of the PS1 ones and stopped in the middle o AC2(didn't like the heat system) tried to play the 4th and 5th generation but there's no good way of playing those games on PC.

[Khryst]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Heatnixx:

Basically a substance that can be used as energy source and data conduction.
Due to some event I forgot about it caused a cataclysmic event (think of setting fire to an oil well but on a global scale), and thanks to Coral's insane energy potential, it scorched the entire solar system of Rubicon.

Eventually as the story progresses we find out due to its properties, it basically became a biological neural network, with many consciousness existing within it.
Ayre, one of the Coral's many consciousness and the one that 'infects' your Armored Core during the Coral surge before the Balteus fight, doesn't want to die and instead asks you to help her find a third option, a way through which both humans and Coral can thrive together.

That third option is what the game constantly hints at since the start; complete symbiosis between humans and Coral, like Humans and gut bacteria, or cells and mitochondrias, basically making the augmentation surgeries (Human+ such as yourself, Rusty or Snail) useless and turning all humans into a better, biological version of augmented humans.

This is the best description, however I'd like to note that as you progress along the 3rd ending route, Ayre comes to a realization that Humanity "evolves" through fighting, and the ending heavily implies that after release the Coral Entities gaining this "belief" from Ayre are going to either fight among themselves to "evolve" or begin a war with Humanity to "evolve". I'm not sure which but either way there's still going to be a massive fight.

[Korinth]

Ursprungligen skrivet av kblaze13:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Heatnixx:

Basically a substance that can be used as energy source and data conduction.
Due to some event I forgot about it caused a cataclysmic event (think of setting fire to an oil well but on a global scale), and thanks to Coral's insane energy potential, it scorched the entire solar system of Rubicon.

Eventually as the story progresses we find out due to its properties, it basically became a biological neural network, with many consciousness existing within it.
Ayre, one of the Coral's many consciousness and the one that 'infects' your Armored Core during the Coral surge before the Balteus fight, doesn't want to die and instead asks you to help her find a third option, a way through which both humans and Coral can thrive together.

That third option is what the game constantly hints at since the start; complete symbiosis between humans and Coral, like Humans and gut bacteria, or cells and mitochondrias, basically making the augmentation surgeries (Human+ such as yourself, Rusty or Snail) useless and turning all humans into a better, biological version of augmented humans.

This is the best description, however I'd like to note that as you progress along the 3rd ending route, Ayre comes to a realization that Humanity "evolves" through fighting, and the ending heavily implies that after release the Coral Entities gaining this "belief" from Ayre are going to either fight among themselves to "evolve" or begin a war with Humanity to "evolve". I'm not sure which but either way there's still going to be a massive fight.

Maybe destroying the coral was the good ending all allong. You sacrifice yourself for the greater good.

Imagine an army of Cel 240 / Ayre

[KharnTheKhan]

Ursprungligen skrivet av kblaze13:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Heatnixx:

Basically a substance that can be used as energy source and data conduction.
Due to some event I forgot about it caused a cataclysmic event (think of setting fire to an oil well but on a global scale), and thanks to Coral's insane energy potential, it scorched the entire solar system of Rubicon.

Eventually as the story progresses we find out due to its properties, it basically became a biological neural network, with many consciousness existing within it.
Ayre, one of the Coral's many consciousness and the one that 'infects' your Armored Core during the Coral surge before the Balteus fight, doesn't want to die and instead asks you to help her find a third option, a way through which both humans and Coral can thrive together.

That third option is what the game constantly hints at since the start; complete symbiosis between humans and Coral, like Humans and gut bacteria, or cells and mitochondrias, basically making the augmentation surgeries (Human+ such as yourself, Rusty or Snail) useless and turning all humans into a better, biological version of augmented humans.

This is the best description, however I'd like to note that as you progress along the 3rd ending route, Ayre comes to a realization that Humanity "evolves" through fighting, and the ending heavily implies that after release the Coral Entities gaining this "belief" from Ayre are going to either fight among themselves to "evolve" or begin a war with Humanity to "evolve". I'm not sure which but either way there's still going to be a massive fight.

I think she was just saying that because Humanity makes big developments due to war, Like irl ww1 and ww2 we made many technological breakthroughs because we need faster and easier ways to kill each other. But if we get an after ending dlc that would be interesting

[Xombie]

Coral isn't just a fuel source. It's also a way to transmit data. So in essence, the coral can take on memories of people.

[CRISTALESCUITE]

Ursprungligen skrivet av kblaze13:

This is the best description, however I'd like to note that as you progress along the 3rd ending route, Ayre comes to a realization that Humanity "evolves" through fighting, and the ending heavily implies that after release the Coral Entities gaining this "belief" from Ayre are going to either fight among themselves to "evolve" or begin a war with Humanity to "evolve". I'm not sure which but either way there's still going to be a massive fight.

That sounds like a nice plot for a new Formula Front type game.

[hakabata]

In a nutshell, Coral is life energy flourish in Rubicon 3 where greedy western corps hop in while natives die to repel it. We know too well of this theme.

[Abyssal Shift]

Well this game plays with the idea of human augmentation and crossing the line between man and machine. My thoughts is that Coral in this game is an electromagnetic energy source that humans were bonding with prior to the Fires of Ibis incident. When the incident took place all of the people who perished their minds fused with the coral and the coral essentially became alive.

[Major Winters]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Heatnixx:

Basically a substance that can be used as energy source and data conduction.
Due to some event I forgot about it caused a cataclysmic event (think of setting fire to an oil well but on a global scale), and thanks to Coral's insane energy potential, it scorched the entire solar system of Rubicon.

Eventually as the story progresses we find out due to its properties, it basically became a biological neural network, with many consciousness existing within it.
Ayre, one of the Coral's many consciousness and the one that 'infects' your Armored Core during the Coral surge before the Balteus fight, doesn't want to die and instead asks you to help her find a third option, a way through which both humans and Coral can thrive together.

That third option is what the game constantly hints at since the start; complete symbiosis between humans and Coral, like Humans and gut bacteria, or cells and mitochondrias, basically making the augmentation surgeries (Human+ such as yourself, Rusty or Snail) useless and turning all humans into a better, biological version of augmented humans.

this makes sense, thanks.

so in the third ending does it mean since coral has spread all over, the consciousness within it has come to life again and can pilot mechs or other coral powered things?

how does it interact with humanity already existing and not yet augmented. or has all humanity being augmented as a result of it being spread all over.

[zmanbuilder]

coral is conflict, were there is coral, there is conflict.