Ya the bosses are horrible.

[rman88]

I know i know, the whole Get good comments are coming. But i don't really give a dam. These bosses are Not fun to fight and not even fair. Hell dark souls had better bosses that didn't feel like a war of attrition to see who kills who faster.

Boss patterns almost never actual matter. As you can never actual doge anything. The dash is slow... and almost useless at times. you get chained stunned constantly due to the amount of projectile that are on screen.

Like take for example one of the final bosses of chapter 1. A giant flying robot that shoots 200 missiles at you over and over and over and over. and no these are not the slow and easy to avoid kind. These are the ones that lock on and fly at you. And to make things worse they scatter to the point your getting hit by from nearly 180 degrees. And they don't even all hit you in once. No you have a good 10 seconds of avoiding them all.

How the hell do you even counter this? Even cheesing them by sticking to them like clue and hugging them don't even work. For multiple reasons like the giant shield regeneration Aoe attack that cannot be avoided. And your Ai companion who warns you about it warns you after the dam thing happens.

And this isn't even talking about the flame thrower attack that pretty much one shots you at full health. and o look it hits a quarter of the small boss arena and swings 3 times.

Like what is the point of having these insanely overpowered bosses? when even if you know what their going to do. You can't do anything to avoid it because your in a Giant clumsy meck that is made out of tissue paper.

[AdAstraWill]

Just wait until you get to NG+ and experience it all over again lol

edit: (ignore the other part of what I said I was wrong :) )

[Kazeck]

There isnt much of a point to it except to make some people feel really proud they managed to beat it.

It's an extremely niche appeal really, I've discovered two builds to just walk through the bosses, but it leaves me feeling hollow afterward since the bosses aren't much of a challenge to those builds, but render anything else useless.

[rman88]

you actual expect me to play new game plus for what? I don't really even care about the story at this point. Its o look your trying to find Magical Juice that o look. It has people in it that talk to you..

Not that it actual matters as you literary have to replay missions to farm money in this game. So i think by the time i beat it.. assuming i don't just say ♥♥♥♥ it and play something else. as hell demon souls seems funner at this point.

[Albinosaurus]

I agree. I thoroughly enjoy the rest of the game so far, but bosses just aren't fun. They aren't Armored Core either, really. It's just having random Souls nonsense shoe-horned into my AC fun here and there to annoy the hell out of me.

[rman88]

Thing is their not even good bosses.. Like take Dark souls.. their hard to actual beat. But they have clear patterns and you can more or less beat them with any kind of build. Just have to get good at avoiding attacks. As that is all this actual is. Avoid the DPS.

Issue is this game is trying to be a bullet hell game. Where the bullets track you. Their is little to no way to avoid most attacks as their either instant. Or they follow you. And don't even get me started on how bad the camera is. Where is the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lock on.

[Obby]

Originally posted by rman88:

I know i know, the whole Get good comments are coming. But i don't really give a dam. These bosses are Not fun to fight and not even fair. Hell dark souls had better bosses that didn't feel like a war of attrition to see who kills who faster.

Boss patterns almost never actual matter. As you can never actual doge anything. The dash is slow... and almost useless at times. you get chained stunned constantly due to the amount of projectile that are on screen.

Like take for example one of the final bosses of chapter 1. A giant flying robot that shoots 200 missiles at you over and over and over and over. and no these are not the slow and easy to avoid kind. These are the ones that lock on and fly at you. And to make things worse they scatter to the point your getting hit by from nearly 180 degrees. And they don't even all hit you in once. No you have a good 10 seconds of avoiding them all.

How the hell do you even counter this? Even cheesing them by sticking to them like clue and hugging them don't even work. For multiple reasons like the giant shield regeneration Aoe attack that cannot be avoided. And your Ai companion who warns you about it warns you after the dam thing happens.

And this isn't even talking about the flame thrower attack that pretty much one shots you at full health. and o look it hits a quarter of the small boss arena and swings 3 times.

Like what is the point of having these insanely overpowered bosses? when even if you know what their going to do. You can't do anything to avoid it because your in a Giant clumsy meck that is made out of tissue paper.

No I agree. Bosses in ac should be....well, ACs. the amount of stupid dark souls esque robot bosses in this is awful and every time i hit a boss fight i just want to stop playing. Its not fun, they arent cool, and every boss i beat has not given me a feeling of satisfaction, but rather im just happy i can finally enjoy the fun part of the game again

[Ragna-San]

Originally posted by rman88:

Thing is their not even good bosses.. Like take Dark souls.. their hard to actual beat. But they have clear patterns and you can more or less beat them with any kind of build. Just have to get good at avoiding attacks. As that is all this actual is. Avoid the DPS.

Issue is this game is trying to be a bullet hell game. Where the bullets track you. Their is little to no way to avoid most attacks as their either instant. Or they follow you. And don't even get me started on how bad the camera is. Where is the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lock on.

The lack of build variety and the game forcing the player to play a specific mecha otherwise the player will be at a total disadvantage is one of the complaints from previous AC fans.
Since the game adopted the Souls philosophy of everything dealing massive damage and staggering where you take even more damage, light mechs are horrible to play with, whereas in previous games it had the advantage of being able to easily dodge attacks from enemy mechs. .

In AC6 lighter mechas can't dodge enemy fire easily, and still suffer from stagger and higher damage.

[Baka]

How can you be having a hard time when you have best support girl Ayre?

[rman88]

But you will never know what type of mecha you need to play as to accomplish the mission. And most of these bosses are at the end of very long missions. so having to replay them over and over and over. IS just a waist of time.

No every weapon and build should be viable. or else what is the point? To make you feel like a moron for not knowing what exact build you should have taken? Because o look i didn't realize their was going to be a boss hear. that needs a specific mech to deal with it that you have to farm more missions to get.

Granted this don't actual solve the issue of bosses being bullet hell. That you cannot actual doge their attacks because they either A Stun lock you. B so numerus you cannot avoid them. Or C hit so hard that you are down to half health from a single attack.

[Nate River]

Here, just learn how to dodge and be agressive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBr0n9qtoJ4

[rman88]

Originally posted by Baka:

How can you be having a hard time when you have best support girl Ayre? :sans:

She is trash. She cannot even warn me properly. The o look its about to explode. After the dam thing blew up. its like thank you.. for being worthless.

[k-ricks]

game didn't force you to play specific type if you can't dodge that's on you

[Khorne]

Originally posted by rman88:

Originally posted by sggaghghwaghwghwgh:

Saying the bossfights are unfair when they telegraph their attacks? This dude's a scrub.

Dude it don't matter if they telegraph their attacks when their is nothing you can do to actual avoid them..

You can actually avoid them, I've done a Balteus and Balteus v2 fight where I only get hit a couple of times usually because I exhausted all my Energy and compromised myself. In fact I did the CEL 240 fight phase 1 and only got hit once, phase 2 was a struggle but I still evaded a LOT of stuff. Stop crying because there's no iframes, dodging is based on speed in this game which you have a stat for, the higher that stat the faster and easier it is to evade things combined with either fast recharging energy or an ass ton of energy. Also learn the best way to avoid things, missiles/explosions/aoes are evaded easily in the air whilst for beams it's easier to either dodge to the side or jump over it.

[Obby]

Originally posted by Ragna-San:

Originally posted by rman88:

Thing is their not even good bosses.. Like take Dark souls.. their hard to actual beat. But they have clear patterns and you can more or less beat them with any kind of build. Just have to get good at avoiding attacks. As that is all this actual is. Avoid the DPS.

Issue is this game is trying to be a bullet hell game. Where the bullets track you. Their is little to no way to avoid most attacks as their either instant. Or they follow you. And don't even get me started on how bad the camera is. Where is the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lock on.

The lack of build variety and the game forcing the player to play a specific mecha otherwise the player will be at a total disadvantage is one of the complaints from previous AC fans.
Since the game adopted the Souls philosophy of everything dealing massive damage and staggering where you take even more damage, light mechs are horrible to play with, whereas in previous games it had the advantage of being able to easily dodge attacks from enemy mechs. .

In AC6 lighter mechas can't dodge enemy fire easily, and still suffer from stagger and higher damage.

The problem is that this is entirely a PVE issue. light mechs CAN easily dodge other mechs fire in PVP, its just that the AI in this is overtuned beyond belief and straight up cheats. I even ran a test on it. In the older AC games, they had finite energy, and genuinely their ac was their build. In this, every enemy has unlimited energy+ammo, which is awful, and then couple that with the bosses that, im gonna be honest, feel super shoehorned in, on top of that super scummy AI, and you got a recipe for the exact thing we complained about for years: being shoehorned into a build. Only difference is before if you werent a light mech you got memed on, now its the opposite, tank is meta for most of PVE just because its such BS that you basically need to pass a damage check every 7 missions to beat a "boss". The only fun bosses so far have been the helicopter and the worm, everything else has felt like a chore

[Sleepy]

Originally posted by rman88:

at the end of very long missions.

If it's taking you that long to get through a mission: there's something more you're doing wrong.