seriously everyone: STOP using keyboards for action games

[amon.the.arcadian]

Originally posted by Bearington:

This never occurred to me. It's so simple. I CAN have the best of both worlds

AC6 (and many other games) supports simultaneous use of mouse and analog sticks. use it.

the layout of your keyboard is designed to type text. its basically nothing more than a typewriter from over 100 years ago.
using wasd you only have 8 directions, one speed and everytime you press another button you compromise your movement.
its totally unfit for 3D action games.

even with a gamepad in your left hand and a mouse with at least 5 buttons in your right you will get much better results and have more fun in the long run.

I strongly suggest using a keypad with an analog stick (like an azeron cyborg) with your mouse. its 2023 for ****s sake. Its so sad the gaming industry still hasnt adjusted to PC gamers needs and is still selling expensive "gaming keyboards" with binary inputs to us.. this is unacceptable imho.

so if youre asking yourself; "should I use analog sticks or a mouse for AC6?" -use BOTH :)

as suggested by SteelaiRizel, here is a pic of my setup, just as an example
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3033156988

[diji]

Originally posted by amon.the.arcadian:

I strongly suggest using a keypad with an analog stick (like an azeron cyborg) with your mouse. its 2023 for ****s sake.

You buying?

[amon.the.arcadian]

Originally posted by diji:

Originally posted by amon.the.arcadian:

I strongly suggest using a keypad with an analog stick (like an azeron cyborg) with your mouse. its 2023 for ****s sake.

You buying?

There are less expensive alternatives, though I admit, still far too few

[katsei]

Just dropping this here.
Twin Stick Setup for Armored Core.

https://www.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/16cx6wy/new_game_with_twin_sticks_am_i_a_psychopath/

[diji]

Originally posted by amon.the.arcadian:

Originally posted by diji:

You buying?

There are less expensive alternatives, though I admit, still far too few

Less than $300? I should bloody hope so.

[SteelaiRizel]

Originally posted by katsei:

Just dropping this here.
Twin Stick Setup for Armored Core.

https://www.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/16cx6wy/new_game_with_twin_sticks_am_i_a_psychopath/

Ok that is pretty sick i am not gonna lie.

[SteelaiRizel]

Originally posted by amon.the.arcadian:

Originally posted by Bearington:

This never occurred to me. It's so simple. I CAN have the best of both worlds

AC6 (and many other games) supports simultaneous use of mouse and analog sticks. use it.

the layout of your keyboard is designed to type text. its basically nothing more than a typewriter from over 100 years ago.
using wasd you only have 8 directions, one speed and everytime you press another button you compromise your movement.
its totally unfit for 3D action games.

even with a gamepad in your left hand and a mouse with at least 5 buttons in your right you will get much better results and have more fun in the long run.

I strongly suggest using a keypad with an analog stick (like an azeron cyborg) with your mouse. its 2023 for ****s sake. Its so sad the gaming industry still hasnt adjusted to PC gamers needs and is still selling expensive "gaming keyboards" with binary inputs to us.. this is unacceptable imho.

so if youre asking yourself; "should I use analog sticks or a mouse for AC6?" -use BOTH :)

as suggested, here is a pic of my setup
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3033156988

Dam that thing is gnarly looking.

[diji]

Just noticed OP's photo. Dude trying to gatekeep with like $400 of peripherals lol

[SteelaiRizel]

Originally posted by diji:

Just noticed OP's photo. Dude trying to gatekeep with like $400 of peripherals lol

2 second google, its only 219.00. At least bother to look before you say something like that.

[amon.the.arcadian]

Originally posted by diji:

Originally posted by amon.the.arcadian:

There are less expensive alternatives, though I admit, still far too few

Less than $300? I should bloody hope so.

you can get a razer tartarus for 60-70 dollars new for example. A quick search brought up some used ones for like 30-40. theres also some nunchuck-style controllers which are pretty inexpensive.

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by SteelaiRizel:

Ok that is pretty sick i am not gonna lie.

Slightly more than $300 dollars as those are VKB Gladiator NXT EVOs with the premium "Space" grips.
A nice Midrange setup for a $330 HOTAS / HOSAS.

https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/products/gladiator-nxt-evo-space-combat-edition-right-hand?variant=39887803613302

What I love about VKB is that they build everything with adjustability in mind and thus you even can easily transform a left-hand stick into a throttle with an 30 dollar upgrade kit.
https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/products/omni-throttle-adapter-ota-for-gladiator-nxt-evo

Tons of other stuff avaible from them directly and tons of option for your own mods as well. Good build quality too, despite plastic as the are using ABS and glass-fiber-reinforced PA plastic. That's the kind that basically lasts forever.

Though they have pricier models with metal constructions too.

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by SteelaiRizel:

2 second google, its only 219.00. At least bother to look before you say something like that.

But to be honest, without ever having used this one … it's hard to see the appeal of it.
32 Buttons and one analog thumb stick is nice and all.

Even my ancient CH Products Pro Throttle has 3-axis and 24 Buttons, 176 programmable buttons via mode changes. So if I would just need a convienent place to rest my hand and access a lot of buttons … 24 from the throttle and like 18 from my mouse seem more than enough for basically everything.

Same for a setup with left-hand gladiator grip. Plenty of buttons and no need for a thumbstick even as you get a full stick with a lot more control and you pay even less dollars for it.

[SteelaiRizel]

Originally posted by Apocalypse:

Originally posted by SteelaiRizel:

2 second google, its only 219.00. At least bother to look before you say something like that.

But to be honest, without ever having used this one … it's hard to see the appeal of it.
32 Buttons and one analog thumb stick is nice and all.

Even my ancient CH Products Pro Throttle has 3-axis and 24 Buttons, 176 programmable buttons via mode changes. So if I would just need a convienent place to rest my hand and access a lot of buttons … 24 from the throttle and like 18 from my mouse seem more than enough for basically everything.

Same for a setup with left-hand gladiator grip. Plenty of buttons and no need for a thumbstick even as you get a full stick with a lot more control and you pay even less dollars for it.

It is quite weird looking i admit. Kinda looks like you end up holding hands with your device lol

[amon.the.arcadian]

The vkb stuff looks awesome and is admittedly much more immersive for sims.. if I had space on my desk I would seriously consider this. Especially the double gladiators look really badass.
Ultimately it comes down to preference.
What I love about the azeron stuff is also massive adjustability; you can adjust everything to match the length of your fingers, your preferred grip, position of the thumb stick etc. And as an accustomed gamepad user this thing felt just right from the start. Also I like the weird looks 😁

And I would love to see a more diverse selection of gaming controllers.. everything is so streamlined.. I had a blast playing with wiimote and wii-U controllers for example, but the concepts seem to have died out. Sure you get gyro and touchpad on controllers, but that's not the same...

[Grim Reaper]

Keyboards are amazing bro, that's why we still use them a hundred years later.

[Apocalypse]

Control sticks are amazing bro, that's why we still use them over hundred years later.