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amon.the.arcadian Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:22am
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seriously everyone: STOP using keyboards for action games
Originally posted by Bearington:
This never occurred to me. It's so simple. I CAN have the best of both worlds
AC6 (and many other games) supports simultaneous use of mouse and analog sticks. use it.

the layout of your keyboard is designed to type text. its basically nothing more than a typewriter from over 100 years ago.
using wasd you only have 8 directions, one speed and everytime you press another button you compromise your movement.
its totally unfit for 3D action games.

even with a gamepad in your left hand and a mouse with at least 5 buttons in your right you will get much better results and have more fun in the long run.

I strongly suggest using a keypad with an analog stick (like an azeron cyborg) with your mouse. its 2023 for ****s sake. Its so sad the gaming industry still hasnt adjusted to PC gamers needs and is still selling expensive "gaming keyboards" with binary inputs to us.. this is unacceptable imho.

so if youre asking yourself; "should I use analog sticks or a mouse for AC6?" -use BOTH :)

as suggested by SteelaiRizel, here is a pic of my setup, just as an example
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3033156988
Last edited by amon.the.arcadian; Sep 9, 2023 @ 11:44am
Originally posted by rlh445:
Originally posted by amon.the.arcadian:

so if youre asking yourself; "should I use analog sticks or a mouse for AC6?" -use BOTH :)

yea i been wondering for a couple years how one of those keypads worked. i been having a heck of time getting used to the controls in this game.

With mouse and keyboard, my aim is amazing and I only use hard lock for melee stuff and occasionally missile spam. The issue is my mech control, because WASD restricts how many actions I can take at once even though my mech can do nearly everything at once.

With gamepad, I have much more intimate and comfortable control over my mech but i find myself heavily relying on hard-lock to keep more shifty enemies from getting away from me. It's a frustrating experience, so I've been wondering how I get around this.

After reading your post I said F it and bought a Razer Tartarus. The Azeron looks like way too much for me; maybe once I get used to this thing. Anyway yea it sure is nice to be able to charge both back units, dodge, repair, scan and move all at the same time with one hand while perfectly aiming, jumping and boosting with the other.

I awarded your post, thanks.
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諸星 葵 Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:25am 
Okay but consider this.

Buttons are digital, sticks are not.

There's no delay between 0 and 1 on digital buttons, there is a delay on analog sticks. It's faster to use the WASD when you move around than rolling with the thumbstick.
Mighty Biscuit Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:26am 
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Zefar Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:26am 
Game plays a lot better with mouse and keyboard because it's fast paced and you need to aim.

It's the one game where From Software managed to make Mouse and keyboard GOOD.
Automaton Spy Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:28am 
No. Cry about it.
amon.the.arcadian Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by 篁唯依:
Okay but consider this.

Buttons are digital, sticks are not.

There's no delay between 0 and 1 on digital buttons, there is a delay on analog sticks. It's faster to use the WASD when you move around than rolling with the thumbstick.
good point. imo it still doesnt make up for the impaired movement options. but that really depends on the game. for competetive fps I would probably agree with you.
angelsenvy228 Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:31am 
lol what a weird take, people use keyboard and mouse cause it works, I dont think the industry hasn't adjusted to gamers needs because everyone isn't using your weird setup.
Cains Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:32am 
When I use the xbox one handle to play, I always get killed because I can't catch up with the body
No problem with keyboard and mouse
John SpaceMarine Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by Zefar:
Game plays a lot better with mouse and keyboard because it's fast paced and you need to aim.

It's the one game where From Software managed to make Mouse and keyboard GOOD.

This. If I play on controller, I somewhat have to rely on lock on. On mouse and KB, don't need it. Since you shoot more accurately without using the hard lock, playing on mouse and KB is actually a buff.
ARKYmouse Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:33am 
This has got to be the weirdest, thermonuclear hot take I've ever seen on Steam.
TheLuckyAce Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:34am 
What I've seen so far (play with pad myself, but I will try M&K) the M&K controls are really good made in AC6... watched around 3h of Gameplay and it looked not much different.
Caramel_Clown Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:34am 
I prefer kbm for everything, apart from Fromsoftware games. Mainly because up until ER kbm controls sucked, and in AC6 its actually too good, making the game too easy.
RaggenZ Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:34am 
Hehe mouse and keyboard goes SKJDIXMSBZJZIDJJRJD
amon.the.arcadian Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:35am 
I am telling you to use a mouse. did you all get that much?

well take it or leave it. I am just trying to help with what I learned in 40 years of PC and console gaming.
諸星 葵 Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by amon.the.arcadian:
Originally posted by 篁唯依:
Okay but consider this.

Buttons are digital, sticks are not.

There's no delay between 0 and 1 on digital buttons, there is a delay on analog sticks. It's faster to use the WASD when you move around than rolling with the thumbstick.
good point. imo it still doesnt make up for the impaired movement options. but that really depends on the game. for competetive fps I would probably agree with you.

Not really an issue if you ask me, you make up for that with the camera control of the mouse. And you don't really need all 360 degrees 100% of the time, 8 is more than enough. I do agree it's dependent on the game, because analog controls benefit racing games better, for example.

And in AC6, the keyboard and mouse controls are really good that I'd happily recommend them to people, even if there are people who'd rather use the controller instead and one of my best friends is like that.

So at this point, it's a question of preference. Both are viable, and more games should strive to make more control options viable and more comfortable for as many people as possible.

Also, another thing you can do if you have a DualShock4/DualSense/Switch Pro: use the gyro for aiming and flick stick on the right thumbstick for quick turns around the place. It's really good if you need to aim manually anywhere.
Dejawuu Aug 26, 2023 @ 11:41am 
i have a muscle disease that affects my hands so mouse + keyboard is my only option
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