Will This Run On Windows 7 (64-Bit)

[AGT_ZURU]

While I am aware that Windows 7 is not Supported officially, does anyone know if the game actually just runs anyway?



Before I get S### Bombed by people saying just Downgrade to Windows 10 or Windows 11, or switch to Linux, I've looked at these Options, they're not really viable options for me.

For various reasons, I can't get a Windows 10/11/12 right now. It will cost me Thousands of Pounds to get one, and frankly, that's not going to happen for a while. Downgrading my current system to Windows 10/11/12 will result in me being unable to access ANY of the Data on my SSD's.

Sure, I 'could' keep taking the SSD's out, and then switching over to Windows 10/11/12 on a different SSD, and then switch back for when I'm using the System for EVERYTHING else that I do. However, this isn't practical, and is also problematic in its own ways, as I have several drives all at once.



I did try installing Windows 10 on a Drive, and got an Error Code. Looked into it, it's due to the fact that the Operating System can't be installed on MBR. Combined with the fact that I have a specific configuration that is based around my system being Windows 7, I'd need to F### with the BIOS again, just to get a Windows 10 to run anyway.

Linux, again, this would mean a lot of messing around with the BIOS, and still, I'd have the issue of not having any guaranty of what will and won't work. Not to mention, I'd be lost on the UI.



Basically, will this Game run on Windows 7 at all, or should I wait a couple of Years for me to get a new Computer with Windows 12 OR Windows 13 on it?

[Electric Kills]

Definitely not by default. It's DX12 and Elden Ring didn't run either. Maybe that one guy who makes Windows 7 fixes for games will do this one. I still main Windows 7 too but dual boot with Mint exclusively for playing newer games.

[Aldroen]

Unlikely cause of EAC integration with the game.

MBR is just a boot sector for your drive that you can change, you will just need to backup your drive and wipe it completely and while formatting you should get a option for GPT or MBR.

Not sure what type of computer running that is so specific to Win 7 but VMs are always an option if you really need it for something.

You really should move away from Win7 not even just to play games but purely from security standpoint as you are potentially exposing your data to malicious actors unless you are operating completely offline on it at this point which I assume you are not.

[Aldroen]

Originally posted by Electric Kills:

Definitely not by default. It's DX12 and Elden Ring didn't run either. Maybe that one guy who makes Windows 7 fixes for games will do this one. I still main Windows 7 too but dual boot with Mint exclusively for playing newer games.

You could probably use dxvk to translate dx12 to vulkan which is supported on win 7.

[Xaelon]

Your situation sounds very complicated. Is there some reason you can't backup everything important to a fresh external drive, format the existing ones and then install a newer OS?

I really think that's going to be your best option here. Windows 10 has been out long enough that it's stable and doesn't get patched outside of security updates.

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

You ever tried backing up a 2TB Drive?

Is every single file on the drive essential for you to have? I know it's pain to have to pick through old files but unless you REALLY need ALL of them I'm pretty sure you can prune that down to a way smaller size.

Download folders in particular tend to be filled with stuff you don't need like installers for programs you never use anymore.

Even if you simply MUST keep every single file on that drive I still say spending the time to back all of it up to another drive will be way easier in the long run because then you won't have to worry about this issue ever again.

It's your PC but this kind of issue is only going to get worse the longer you stay on that old OS.

[Roland]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

While I am aware that Windows 7 is not Supported officially, does anyone know if the game actually just runs anyway?



Before I get S### Bombed by people saying just Downgrade to Windows 10 or Windows 11, or switch to Linux, I've looked at these Options, they're not really viable options for me.

For various reasons, I can't get a Windows 10/11/12 right now. It will cost me Thousands of Pounds to get one, and frankly, that's not going to happen for a while. Downgrading my current system to Windows 10/11/12 will result in me being unable to access ANY of the Data on my SSD's.

Sure, I 'could' keep taking the SSD's out, and then switching over to Windows 10/11/12 on a different SSD, and then switch back for when I'm using the System for EVERYTHING else that I do. However, this isn't practical, and is also problematic in its own ways, as I have several drives all at once.



I did try installing Windows 10 on a Drive, and got an Error Code. Looked into it, it's due to the fact that the Operating System can't be installed on MBR. Combined with the fact that I have a specific configuration that is based around my system being Windows 7, I'd need to F### with the BIOS again, just to get a Windows 10 to run anyway.

Linux, again, this would mean a lot of messing around with the BIOS, and still, I'd have the issue of not having any guaranty of what will and won't work. Not to mention, I'd be lost on the UI.



Basically, will this Game run on Windows 7 at all, or should I wait a couple of Years for me to get a new Computer with Windows 12 OR Windows 13 on it?

As a repair technician of 22+ years, I'm lowkey just kinda fascinated with your setup.
I'll skip the "7's security sucks ass" lecture.

I'm curious why you don't just make the jump to 10, you'd skip the MBR issue for good.
The people that call it a downgrade are idiots that don't know how to disable features. The amount of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I see from Windows fearmongers is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joke. Plenty love to talk about the "ads" in Windows 11 but no one talks about how to just disable recommendations and all the "ads" go away.

My point is don't listen to the things you've heard unless you actually get a proper menu tour; people just think it's cool to corpo hate for the sake of corpo hating and don't' like to point out that the stuff they hate on is optional.

It's still unclear to me though why you would need to "keep removing" your Satas...
Just because Win 10 can't BOOT from an MBR doesn't mean it can't read a drive with one. Just format one drive to UEFI, make it your boot and hook up the rest.

I use 10 and 11 machines to recover files from Win 7 and 8 drives weirdly often

[Roland]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

As for the 'Security' Argument, for that, I would have to say the following:
Windows 8/8.1/10/11 are no more secure than Windows 7. In fact, actually less so, since there is an Exploit backed into the Newer Operating Systems. I've seen it be used, and it's frankly scary.

It's a Network Protocol that is backed into the Operating System. I'm sure that you could rip it out, but your Computer would likely lose functionality doing so. It's not as simple as just Disable it in the Registry, there are other steps needed, as Windows Update will always check to see if it's there.

I watched some kid use that 'Function' to hack a Teacher's Phone, and reported the issue to Microsoft. The Function was never taken out, as it's part of the OS. A Bit S###, but there it is.

That's WAY too vague to believe.
Wtf are you on about?
I have a feeling you got bamboozled, as I see a lot of fake hackers trying to impress the gullible.
Also Windows Phones don't even use the same operating system so even if the teacher had a Windows Phone, which is ridiculously uncommon (just look up their market share), it wouldn't be running the same OS.

So what is this function?
I'll happily confirm or set the record straight

[necuz]

It might just work using some of the same tools that are running it on Linux. I have no personal experience with this, but someone managed to get AC Valhalla to run like that: http://neonfloppy.sytes.net/blog/2021-03-01/

And yeah, you'd probably have to run it strictly offline with EAC disabled.

[Aldroen]

Originally posted by Roland:

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

As for the 'Security' Argument, for that, I would have to say the following:
Windows 8/8.1/10/11 are no more secure than Windows 7. In fact, actually less so, since there is an Exploit backed into the Newer Operating Systems. I've seen it be used, and it's frankly scary.

It's a Network Protocol that is backed into the Operating System. I'm sure that you could rip it out, but your Computer would likely lose functionality doing so. It's not as simple as just Disable it in the Registry, there are other steps needed, as Windows Update will always check to see if it's there.

I watched some kid use that 'Function' to hack a Teacher's Phone, and reported the issue to Microsoft. The Function was never taken out, as it's part of the OS. A Bit S###, but there it is.

That's WAY too vague to believe.
Wtf are you on about?
I have a feeling you got bamboozled, as I see a lot of fake hackers trying to impress the gullible.
Also Windows Phones don't even use the same operating system so even if the teacher had a Windows Phone, which is ridiculously uncommon (just look up their market share), it wouldn't be running the same OS.

So what is this function?
I'll happily confirm or set the record straight

He obviously has no idea what he is talking about .... everything he said so far sound like something a 12 year old thinking he is 31337 H4X0R that has no idea about PC hardware or software or how any of it connects with everything.

Troll post and nothing else. Shame that you and I wasted our time trying to help.

[Roland]

Originally posted by Aldroen:

Originally posted by Roland:

That's WAY too vague to believe.
Wtf are you on about?
I have a feeling you got bamboozled, as I see a lot of fake hackers trying to impress the gullible.
Also Windows Phones don't even use the same operating system so even if the teacher had a Windows Phone, which is ridiculously uncommon (just look up their market share), it wouldn't be running the same OS.

So what is this function?
I'll happily confirm or set the record straight

He obviously has no idea what he is talking about .... everything he said so far sound like something a 12 year old thinking he is 31337 H4X0R that has no idea about PC hardware or software or how any of it connects with everything.

Troll post and nothing else. Shame that you and I wasted our time trying to help.

I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. Educations come in all shapes and sizes.

[Roland]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Originally posted by Roland:

That's WAY too vague to believe.
Wtf are you on about?
I have a feeling you got bamboozled, as I see a lot of fake hackers trying to impress the gullible.
Also Windows Phones don't even use the same operating system so even if the teacher had a Windows Phone, which is ridiculously uncommon (just look up their market share), it wouldn't be running the same OS.

So what is this function?
I'll happily confirm or set the record straight

It got him Expelled from the School, and he's now a Security Consultant.

The Phone by the way, was not even a Windows. He used the PC on one side of the School, to get into the Computer at the other side of the School, as some sort of Hotspot thingy, and then went from there.

The Function is wrapped into another 'Feature' which is used for many Windows Applications from what he explained.

The exploit works between Windows PC's, thus allowing one PC to be a Slave to another PC.

That's still mad vague and no one is buying it.

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

The exploit works between Windows PC's, thus allowing one PC to be a Slave to another PC.

And you said he hijacked the teacher's PHONE with it, not a PC.
You're starting to contradict yourself and that puts everything you said into question.
Stop BS-ing and just tell me the function and I will happily explain what actually happened without any vague ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[ZTL-Altima]

Just install Windows 11 official download and pay the license when you can.

[Mr Stim]

converting mbr to gpt can be done without losing any data. from there you can do an in place upgrade to windows 10.
Whether that's a good idea or not vs a clean install is up for debate. I personally did the same thing. Windows 7 mbr > gpt, to windows 10 and then another in place upgrade a few years later to windows 11. Then i moved the ssd with windows 11 to a completely new system.
Purists and conventional wisdom might say it's best to do a clean install, but I'd suggest preparing for the worst (backup data) and trying an in place upgrade. Might work out ok. Tbh I'm surprised its running so well, but may do a clean install when i have time

[Roland]

Originally posted by Mr Stim:

converting mbr to gpt can be done without losing any data. from there you can do an in place upgrade to windows 10.
Whether that's a good idea or not vs a clean install is up for debate. I personally did the same thing. Windows 7 mbr > gpt, to windows 10 and then another in place upgrade a few years later to windows 11. Then i moved the ssd with windows 11 to a completely new system.
Purists and conventional wisdom might say it's best to do a clean install, but I'd suggest preparing for the worst (backup data) and trying an in place upgrade. Might work out ok. Tbh I'm surprised its running so well, but may do a clean install when i have time

Clean installs are overrated

[Roland]

Originally posted by AGT_ZURU:

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

What are you going to do in 4 months when Steam stops working on Windows 7?

Simple, use Steam in OFFLINE Mode if I can.

Originally posted by Roland:

That's still mad vague and no one is buying it.


And you said he hijacked the teacher's PHONE with it, not a PC.
You're starting to contradict yourself and that puts everything you said into question.
Stop BS-ing and just tell me the function and I will happily explain what actually happened without any vague ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

He Hacked a Teacher's Phone is what I said, I didn't go into Detail about how he Hacked into it.

Also, I said Hacked, not Hijacked.

Function?
I literally don't care about anything else you have to say on the matter because until you tell me the function and I can verify you're not talking out your ass, I straight up do not believe you.

[Aldroen]

Originally posted by Mr Stim:

converting mbr to gpt can be done without losing any data. from there you can do an in place upgrade to windows 10.
Whether that's a good idea or not vs a clean install is up for debate. I personally did the same thing. Windows 7 mbr > gpt, to windows 10 and then another in place upgrade a few years later to windows 11. Then i moved the ssd with windows 11 to a completely new system.
Purists and conventional wisdom might say it's best to do a clean install, but I'd suggest preparing for the worst (backup data) and trying an in place upgrade. Might work out ok. Tbh I'm surprised its running so well, but may do a clean install when i have time

To be fair if OP switches bios to legacy mode then win 10 will work on MBR anyway and if not there are ways to override it in the win 10 installer since MS always tries to force you to use the latest tech when available with their automated installer.