Is dear days 2 even gonna be worth it at this point?

[Magnadeus]

i heard that dear days has a rough start due it it's price and that it rarely goes on sale with reasonable pricing on top of locking packs behind DLC. Hence why i didn't buy it. I love vanguard as much as the next person, but part of me thinks they're gonna pull the same stuff with DD2. I hope that's not the case though.

[Mist]

Publicado originalmente por mimizukari:

Publicado originalmente por spookywood:

Bruh. the initial deck building is expensive because of generic but after that, most deck only need 4 to 6 UR. Which can easily farm within a week or 2. For free. Even then, you don't really need all of the generic.

or... play dd1/2 and make any deck you want within reason in a reasonable amount of time, the first 30 hours you collect a lot of the regular packs in dd1 but then after all duplicates turn to craft points and you can easily make any deck you want in a few AI duels or online duels, rewarded for your effort of playing, not for pay 2 win gacha grind nonsense that doesn't let you farm unlimitedly during when you want to play.

Didnt spend a cent in MD, always had the best deck at the time. Meanwhile you need to spend 150€ to be up to date and play the best deck in VGDD. Idk man, seems like one is more scammey than the other to me. Comparing this scam of a game to LOTD is an insult to LOTD, which already had issue (re-releasing as Link Evolution instead of beng able to update/upgrade cheaper. But at least Link Evolution got a huge FREE update in content, something this scam would never do)

[mimizukari]

Publicado originalmente por Mist:

Publicado originalmente por mimizukari:

or... play dd1/2 and make any deck you want within reason in a reasonable amount of time, the first 30 hours you collect a lot of the regular packs in dd1 but then after all duplicates turn to craft points and you can easily make any deck you want in a few AI duels or online duels, rewarded for your effort of playing, not for pay 2 win gacha grind nonsense that doesn't let you farm unlimitedly during when you want to play.

Didnt spend a cent in MD, always had the best deck at the time. Meanwhile you need to spend 150€ to be up to date and play the best deck in VGDD. Idk man, seems like one is more scammey than the other to me. Comparing this scam of a game to LOTD is an insult to LOTD, which already had issue (re-releasing as Link Evolution instead of beng able to update/upgrade cheaper. But at least Link Evolution got a huge FREE update in content, something this scam would never do)

Likely alongside the booster releases we'll get things like the trial decks for free, still no idea what they're doing for vintage but given there's no vintage dlc yet and there's clans in the database yet to exist there's a non zero chance those could be free, especially since you can't ranked duel for vintage.

[Argroh]

oh, Vintage IS gonna get DLC, no doubt 'bout that.
I can confirm it ingame.
there's an option to search for "Angel Feather" cards, which in the game, don't exist... ...YET!
So thus, we're getting Season 2.

Now if you're wondering about the other clans...

Nubatama: Has four cards in Vintage, and standard has Shiranui as a Rideline.
Great Nature: Has four cards in vintage
Gold Paladin: Standard has the Ezel rideline.
Narukami: Standard has Vermilion as a rideline.
Aqua Force: Standard has Maelstrom as a rideline.
Genesis: Standard has Minerva as a rideline.
Link Joker: Standard has Messiah as a rideline.
Gear Chronicle: Standard has Chronojet as a rideline.

The only outlier is Angel Feather, thus adding to it that it's likely, VERY likely we're getting Season 2 Vintage cards. (So Limit Break, Ezel, Vermillion, Leo-Pald, Metatron, Maelstrom, Azure Dragon, Spectral Duke Dragon, and the like.)

[mimizukari]

Publicado originalmente por Argroh:

oh, Vintage IS gonna get DLC, no doubt 'bout that.
I can confirm it ingame.
there's an option to search for "Angel Feather" cards, which in the game, don't exist... ...YET!
So thus, we're getting Season 2.

Now if you're wondering about the other clans...

Nubatama: Has four cards in Vintage, and standard has Shiranui as a Rideline.
Great Nature: Has four cards in vintage
Gold Paladin: Standard has the Ezel rideline.
Narukami: Standard has Vermilion as a rideline.
Aqua Force: Standard has Maelstrom as a rideline.
Genesis: Standard has Minerva as a rideline.
Link Joker: Standard has Messiah as a rideline.
Gear Chronicle: Standard has Chronojet as a rideline.

The only outlier is Angel Feather, thus adding to it that it's likely, VERY likely we're getting Season 2 Vintage cards. (So Limit Break, Ezel, Vermillion, Leo-Pald, Metatron, Maelstrom, Azure Dragon, Spectral Duke Dragon, and the like.)

you'd think if they were updating it alongside then we'd see it in season pass 1, or some kind of announcement but given no announcement I wonder if it might be free, is the point I was making. given that vintage is just a "for fun" format within the game, could be dropped like the trial decks were... If it is paid they really need to add a "Ranked Vintage" mode imo.

[Argroh]

Publicado originalmente por mimizukari:

you'd think if they were updating it alongside then we'd see it in season pass 1, or some kind of announcement but given no announcement I wonder if it might be free, is the point I was making. given that vintage is just a "for fun" format within the game, could be dropped like the trial decks were... If it is paid they really need to add a "Ranked Vintage" mode imo.

So you want to face a BS meta of nothing but MLB, DOtE, PBO, and Tsukuyomi?
The fact you can play vintage online in the first place is at least a good thing.

[Magnadeus]

Publicado originalmente por Argroh:

Publicado originalmente por mimizukari:

you'd think if they were updating it alongside then we'd see it in season pass 1, or some kind of announcement but given no announcement I wonder if it might be free, is the point I was making. given that vintage is just a "for fun" format within the game, could be dropped like the trial decks were... If it is paid they really need to add a "Ranked Vintage" mode imo.

So you want to face a BS meta of nothing but MLB, DOtE, PBO, and Tsukuyomi?
The fact you can play vintage online in the first place is at least a good thing.

PBO was never meta. it's cost is too high for a card that can easily be stopped by a PG.

[ijosj79]

About the financial issues regarding Yu-Gi-Oh! (MD) and CVDD 1 and 2: I didn't play (MD), but I played Yu-Gi-Oh! (DL) on my cell phone for a long time and also watched the gameplay of (MD) sometimes. And what bothered me a lot was the investment I made in the short, medium and long term. The Yu-Gi-Oh! (MD) and (DL) game is very good, I have no criticism regarding the game system, but the biggest disadvantage for me, and certainly for most people, is the constant investment of money to buy cards, materials, etc.; and also a large amount of time that is needed in a day to acquire rewards using the strongest deck you can, until that deck no longer helps you to get the necessary rewards and you need to choose between two options; 1- use a lot of your time, and little by little, manage to make another strong deck; 2- spend money to buy cards. I played (DL) for over a year, although I really liked the game, the investment of time and money did not give me a return that I felt was worth it. Because every month a new update appeared in Yu-Gi-Oh! with the emergence of new cards, your current deck could no longer compete with other players, feeling the need to spend more money and time to build a new deck and even investing you feel that you cannot keep up with the game's news and need to invest more. The problem is: you spend money constantly, the amount spent increases and in the end you run the risk of not having a satisfactory return, generating dissatisfaction and frustration. In CVDD 1 and 2, although I started playing DD 1 at the end of January 2025, regarding the financial aspect, it is more satisfactory than Yu-Gi-Oh!. Even if you have to pay to get extra packs that don't appear at the beginning of the game, you only pay once and can use the time you have available to acquire game points to create as many decks as you want. Even if there is a new pack update news that comes out during the year, it takes a while to happen and you will only need to pay for that specific pack once for all the cards in that pack with your acquired game points. In addition to the game's content, I am quite satisfied with the financial and time aspects of the game. I only pay for the packs once, I can play for as long as I think necessary and I can build several strong decks. Even today, when I am writing this message, I have not bought and started playing DD 2, but I have already seen the gameplay and I am happy that in addition to the game having had a significant improvement and with a new story, they have still maintained the same financial system regarding the purchase of packs. I recognize that it is worth you investing in this game.

[ijosj79]

I haven't bought DD2 yet, but I've seen the gameplay and I'm playing DD1, which I recently bought. Regarding the financial investment, it's definitely not a waste, because with the purchase of a single specific package you have the possibility of creating as many decks as you want. I'll soon buy DD2, because it has more options for creating decks and also participating in Yuki Ichidoji's new story.

[Mist]

Publicado originalmente por ijosj79:

About the financial issues regarding Yu-Gi-Oh! (MD) and CVDD 1 and 2: I didn't play (MD), but I played Yu-Gi-Oh! (DL) on my cell phone for a long time and also watched the gameplay of (MD) sometimes. And what bothered me a lot was the investment I made in the short, medium and long term. The Yu-Gi-Oh! (MD) and (DL) game is very good, I have no criticism regarding the game system, but the biggest disadvantage for me, and certainly for most people, is the constant investment of money to buy cards, materials, etc.; and also a large amount of time that is needed in a day to acquire rewards using the strongest deck you can, until that deck no longer helps you to get the necessary rewards and you need to choose between two options; 1- use a lot of your time, and little by little, manage to make another strong deck; 2- spend money to buy cards. I played (DL) for over a year, although I really liked the game, the investment of time and money did not give me a return that I felt was worth it. Because every month a new update appeared in Yu-Gi-Oh! with the emergence of new cards, your current deck could no longer compete with other players, feeling the need to spend more money and time to build a new deck and even investing you feel that you cannot keep up with the game's news and need to invest more. The problem is: you spend money constantly, the amount spent increases and in the end you run the risk of not having a satisfactory return, generating dissatisfaction and frustration. In CVDD 1 and 2, although I started playing DD 1 at the end of January 2025, regarding the financial aspect, it is more satisfactory than Yu-Gi-Oh!. Even if you have to pay to get extra packs that don't appear at the beginning of the game, you only pay once and can use the time you have available to acquire game points to create as many decks as you want. Even if there is a new pack update news that comes out during the year, it takes a while to happen and you will only need to pay for that specific pack once for all the cards in that pack with your acquired game points. In addition to the game's content, I am quite satisfied with the financial and time aspects of the game. I only pay for the packs once, I can play for as long as I think necessary and I can build several strong decks. Even today, when I am writing this message, I have not bought and started playing DD 2, but I have already seen the gameplay and I am happy that in addition to the game having had a significant improvement and with a new story, they have still maintained the same financial system regarding the purchase of packs. I recognize that it is worth you investing in this game.

DL and MD system are night and day. Don't put them together if you don't know ♥♥♥♥ about MD.

[Cheytac M200]

Publicado originalmente por mimizukari:

Publicado originalmente por Magnadeus:

And here we have another person who caters to bad marketing for the wrong reasons. Smh

if this ain't for u then it ain't for you. i hate spending $300 for a SINGLE deck (MD) and then a new meta comes around and u have to spend another $300 to get enough packs/crafting mats/etc to make a new deck... $140-$220 ONE time is all we need for dd.

And this is why Bushi can get away after scamming people with 2 reboots, overpriced short print cards and questionably stupid decision for dear days because they knew they could get away for making bad decision because their playerbase is stupid as hell

[Red Comet]

Publicado originalmente por Cheytac M200:

Publicado originalmente por mimizukari:

if this ain't for u then it ain't for you. i hate spending $300 for a SINGLE deck (MD) and then a new meta comes around and u have to spend another $300 to get enough packs/crafting mats/etc to make a new deck... $140-$220 ONE time is all we need for dd.

And this is why Bushi can get away after scamming people with 2 reboots, overpriced short print cards and questionably stupid decision for dear days because they knew they could get away for making bad decision because their playerbase is stupid as hell

How is it a scam?The reboots didn't invalidate any cards given that Premium Format exists and cards that existed in previous formats before V and D at most got an Erata/reprint

For Dear days specifically,well can't disagree on the price issue but then again you can choose not to buy the dlc and at this point it doesn't really matter given DD2 release
If you have such a big problem with DD play simulator

[Ninon Joubert]

Publicado originalmente por Red Comet:

Publicado originalmente por Cheytac M200:

And this is why Bushi can get away after scamming people with 2 reboots, overpriced short print cards and questionably stupid decision for dear days because they knew they could get away for making bad decision because their playerbase is stupid as hell

How is it a scam?The reboots didn't invalidate any cards given that Premium Format exists and cards that existed in previous formats before V and D at most got an Erata/reprint

For Dear days specifically,well can't disagree on the price issue but then again you can choose not to buy the dlc and at this point it doesn't really matter given DD2 release
If you have such a big problem with DD play simulator

The reboots didn't invalidate cards because Premium became an actual format and not a for fun one once Bushiroad received an avalanche of backlash over the reboot, speaking of each reboot almost killed the game. So many locals stopped supplying Vanguard and still don't because there is so little trust left.
Not mentioning that every new card set puts out new stronger generic staples that invalidate something in the top decks at high rarities in extremely limited stock making the price to get into Vanguard these days at a competitive level absolutely infuriating.

All this aside, Dear Days 1 and 2 are poorly priced and not great products either. Machine translated, designed for consoles first and lazily ported over, heavily flawed matchmaking that was rife with issues at launch, terrible performance.
And Chey hit the nail on the head when it comes to the playerbase sadly, because this entire thread (and every thread like it) is filled with people comparing it to MD to justify pricing. This is not only incredibly disingenuous (because f2p and paid games follow extremely different models for revenue and in the former the price is heavily dependant on how often you play and how often you want to build a new deck), but also extremely ignorant? "Hey this game has a less consumer friendly structure but brings in more players, thank god we don't have that and pay £100+ for a bad product that will bring in zero new players!". Justifying a product being okay at it's current price point because the alternatives are worse (which they aren't, by the way, Legacy of the Duelist did exist and is EXTREMELY cheap by comparison) is utterly insane... which also leads me to dismiss every point about it being cheaper than the IRL card game. Not only because the alternatives being worse (because they're also rife with anti-consumer practices) does not justify an overpriced and poorly made product, but also because they're extremely different experiences and shouldn't be compared in the first place.

The worst part, we would have a CFV automated sim like YGOPRO and so on by now except Bushiroad cease and desist them, so the best alternative to Dear Days is Cardfight Area... which isn't an alternative because it isn't automated. Not everyone wants that experience.
They treat their customer base like garbage no matter which product you look at, they extinguish all attempts by the community to help the game grow and succeed, and people come into discussions like this and clap their hands because they somehow look at the actions of Bushiroad and extrapolate it as a positive thing.