Cardfight!! Vanguard Dear Days

Cardfight!! Vanguard Dear Days

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Argroh Dec 11, 2023 @ 10:54pm
The DivineZ Announcements and how it relates to Dear Days.
To start off, recently, Bushiroad hosted a stream relating to the new "DZ" era of the game.

While the game will still be part of the D series, they also announced something that fundamentally changes up how the game is played, and because of which, I believe that Dear Days will no longer receive anymore content after the release of Special Set 11: Triple Drive Booster.

To be specific: Deck Building.

Starting with the release of the DZ Starter Decks, Decks will now consist of 54 cards. 50 cards being part of the main deck and the additional four being the ride deck.

With how this is set, it means that without a substantial overhaul of Dear Days to accompany this new deck building change, I feel that Dear Days will not be able to get any cards from the DZ product range onwards, thus halting at the Triple Drive Booster.

From this, Dear Days' days are pretty much numbered.

With expansion pass 3 on the potential horizon next year, this will probably be the last content the game will get.
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mimizukari Dec 11, 2023 @ 11:42pm 
wouldn't be the first time a game completely changed its rules, link evolution changed its rules after an update to reach parity with the current ruleset of the game. since this is the definitive D-era game i don't see why they wouldn't keep going past that so long as it doesn't invalidate the use of previous cards.
Argroh Dec 11, 2023 @ 11:50pm 
it doesn't invalidate previous cards. the issue is the fundamental change to deck building would mean SIGNIFICANTLY MORE WORK for the devs. As they would have to go through the entire game and update all the decks to be up to the new deckbuilding rules. This also means unlockable decklists and existing decks for CPU opponents. It would be more trouble then it's worth.

It would also mean the Start Decks given at the start would be nulled as you can't use the deck as-is with the new deckbuilding rules.

This would also mean adding in mechanics such as Energy Generator Crests and Divine Skills.

And let's face it, I don't exactly trust the devs with being able to do such a feat.
mimizukari Dec 11, 2023 @ 11:53pm 
only thing I don't trust the devs to do is implement cross-play support... aside from that definitive is definitive, if they want it to stay definitive it has to keep getting new updates.
Argroh Dec 11, 2023 @ 11:57pm 
That would be a miracle into itself.

But yeah, we'ld likely not see any DZ support unless the devs pretty much remake the whole game with that in mind.

what I COULD see as an option is them pretty much slapping a brand new game on top of this one and labelling it as a DLC. With an option to toggle between D and DZ rulesets, with said DZ ruleset technically being a new game.
Stj.Srex Dec 12, 2023 @ 5:20am 
I much rather pay 60e for V era cards then to get these new with new mechanics. V era was 2nd best after Break Ride. Break Raid era was amazing with so many great deck to choose.
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COCAINE BEAR Dec 12, 2023 @ 3:40pm 
I mean that's a pretty good run if we get another dlc pack, I was honestly not expecting this to get any updates
mimizukari Dec 12, 2023 @ 3:58pm 
Originally posted by COCAINE BEAR:
I mean that's a pretty good run if we get another dlc pack, I was honestly not expecting this to get any updates
i've been waiting for both ss05 & bt12 & d-lbt04, i was expecting this to get updated as long as standard format is a thing, including any rule changes due to their calling it a "definitive" game, as Master Duel is for Yu-Gi-Oh or MTG Arena is for MTG, etc.
Argroh Dec 12, 2023 @ 10:00pm 
but due to how Dear Days works, I doubt we'ld be getting anything from DZ onwards, even the devs said that they would stop at the Triple Drive Booster.

I would expect, maybe after two cours of DivineZ or so, that we'll get a new game, and it would allow you to carry over your card collection from Dear Days over to it.

Now from what has been revealed, this post here explains a couple things being added in DZ.

New Deckbuilding rules:

Your Main Deck consists of 50 cards, with 16 of them being trigger units. Accompanying that, your Ride Deck is a separate set of 4 to 6 cards, consisting of a grade 0, grade 1, grade 2, and grade 3 normal unit. You may also include a <Ride Deck Crest> in your Ride Deck. Of course, some decks have a different use for the Ride Deck (read: Griphogila), but Over Triggers that are in the Ride Deck still count towards the 16 Trigger Unit count.


New Mechanics:

Ride Deck Crest: "Energy Generator"
Coming with the new Starter Decks is the first Ride Deck Crest. It is played when you "Ride" a card over your vanguard normally (read: not superior riding). From there, every one of your ride phases, you [Energy-Charge 3], you can have a maximum of up to 10 Energy Counters at a time. These Energy Counters are used to activate skills that have an [Energy Blast] cost. The Crest itself also has a 1/Turn [ACT] skill of [Energy Blast 7]: Draw 1 Card.

Any existing deck can utilise this Crest. This crest can also be played along with decks that utilise Crests (Such as Chronojet, Messiah, Shiranui, Luard, and other collab decks). The only real restriction is that you can only have the one <Ride Deck Crest> in your Ride deck.

Also, yes, even Griphogila can use the crest, it's gained upon superior ridding Griphogila.


Divine Skill.
From the what little details are shown, Divine Skills are powerful skills that can only be used once per Fight. It's currently not known what these skills entail, but it's assumed that they may be used at a pivot-able moment of the cardfight.

As of now, only Six units are confirmed to possess a Divine Skill:

Fated One of Unparalleled, Varga Dragres (Dragon Empire)
Fated One of Zero, Blangdmire (Dark States)
Fated One of Guiding Star, Welstra "Blitz Arms" (Brandt Gate)
Fated One of Miracles, Rezael (Keter Sanctuary)
Fated One of Taboo, ZorgaNadir (Stoicheia)
Fated One of Ever-changing, Krysrain (Lyrical Monasterio)


Set releases:
Currently in Japan, they have set release dates for the DZ product line, starting on January 19th, is the release of the DZ Starter Decks. From the contents, most of the deck is supposedly "Vanilla", with the only cards with major abilities being the main grade 3 Unit and the Perfect guard. Packed in are also a promo reprint of one of the three Effect triggers matching the respective nation. The second promo is an early release of the new Regular Perfect Guards, with a chance of it being Elementaria Sanctitude.

on the 9th of February, is the release of DZ set 1. It is confirmed that four of the SSRs are Varga Drages, Welstra "Blitz Arms", Rezael, and Krysrain.
Along with that, there will be the new Perfect Guards that can show up in a starter deck, new Trigger Units that are Nationless, and Reprints of eight Over Triggers, specifically Dragveda, Gallmageheld, Eldobreath, Amartinoa, Blessfavor, Catrina, Valnout, and Idosfaro.

And yes, starting from DZ set 1, all six regular nations are getting support.

April 5th will be the Japanese release date for DZ set 2, so far, the only confirmed cards in it are Blangdmire and ZorgaNadir.

At the current moment, the only news of EN DZ products is that we're getting the Starter decks on April 19th.

More Information may be shown this coming weekend, I'll try to keep ye lot posted.
Last edited by Argroh; Dec 13, 2023 @ 8:09am
sumire Dec 15, 2023 @ 5:59am 
>even the devs said that they would stop at the Triple Drive Booster.
source?
mimizukari Dec 15, 2023 @ 9:14am 
Originally posted by sumire:
>even the devs said that they would stop at the Triple Drive Booster.
source?
I’ve been waiting for sources too, some serious accusations without kwsk
Argroh Dec 15, 2023 @ 1:28pm 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEU2T6LGpMQ this is the stream where it's mentioned.
COCAINE BEAR Dec 15, 2023 @ 11:41pm 
How many dlcs does that leave for Dear Days if the devs stop at Triple Drive?

D-SS05
D-SS06
D-SS07
D-SS08
D-SS09
D-SS10
D-SS11
D-BT11
D-BT12
D-BT13

Not being familiar with physical vanguard as far as I can tell these are all packs/decks up to SS11
Argroh Dec 16, 2023 @ 12:10am 
Originally posted by COCAINE BEAR:
How many dlcs does that leave for Dear Days if the devs stop at Triple Drive?

D-SS05
D-SS06
D-SS07
D-SS08
D-SS09
D-SS10
D-SS11
D-BT11
D-BT12
D-BT13

Not being familiar with physical vanguard as far as I can tell these are all packs/decks up to SS11
Special sets 6 through 8 (stand-up Decksets: Gramgrace, Farvneel, Orfist) pretty much have been covered with the release of set 10. Only thing really missing from that is a non-FFR version of Favrneel.

Special Set 5 (Festival Booster 2023) has the new Over Triggers, along with some additional cards for all nations, and also Lyrical Monasterio support for primarily the ridelines from the first Lyrical booster.

Special Sets 9 and 10 (Stride Decksets: Shiranui, Luard) are pretty much guaranteed to likely be last.

Special set 11 (Triple Drive Booster), might end up similar to special sets 6 through 8 and be mashed with maybe set 13. Funny thing here, that Triple Drive Booster is Special set 12 EN because EN had the semi-exclusive "Malevolent Masques" supply set (which only included two copies of Masque of Hydragrum).

Sets 11 through 13 are also guaranteed, maybe a few cards from the special sets may be mashed into these sets.

You also forgot Lyrical Set 4.
Stujieee Dec 18, 2023 @ 10:50pm 
Originally posted by Argroh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEU2T6LGpMQ this is the stream where it's mentioned.
can you provide a timestamp of them talking about DD stopping at triple drive booster? I didn't really catch it during the stream and kind of want to know if DD continues beyond set 10 at least
Argroh Dec 23, 2023 @ 8:39pm 
Well, in EN physical, starting in January, Standard is also getting the new deckbuilding rule. However, Dear Days will probably not get that rule change update.

If anything, the game will remain a snapshot of how the game was before the rule change.

As one guy I encountered stated, at least it'll end better then how Vanguard EX did, getting no updates, and ending with an extra booster with Megacolony support.
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