Has this ever been on sale?

[Silverblade]

I have been waiting for it to go on sale for a while now, but I have not seen one.
Tbh, I feel as if they missed the sweetspot for pricing with this one... :/

[Argroh]

once, for only %10 off.

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by Silverblade:

I have been waiting for it to go on sale for a while now, but I have not seen one.
Tbh, I feel as if they missed the sweetspot for pricing with this one... :/

seems to me like they didn't miss the sweet spot if you picked it up (mouse icon by name), lol.

[Silverblade]

I was speaking statistically, meaning the price for most profit going by price times sales.
It was a hard sale in my case, and I probably got more disposable income to spend on games than many people do.

Even if they "only" got the same profit by, let's say, selling at half the price, but selling twice as many units, the game itself would be in a much healthier state, for multiplayer requires for a certain amount of people to own (and a subset of them then actually play) the game.

40,- € for base game, 30,- € for season passes would have been my intuitive price point with maybe setting the base game on sale every once in a while after one year after release or so.
With that, they would have gotten 100,- € easily from me. Now they got 60,- and it might quite possibly stay at that. Not sure how I feel about buying any dlc, yet, for an almost dead multiplayer game.
Sometimes Japanese gaming companies feel oddly out of touch with the European market...

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by Silverblade:

I was speaking statistically, meaning the price for most profit going by price times sales.
It was a hard sale in my case, and I probably got more disposable income to spend on games than many people do.

Even if they "only" got the same profit by, let's say, selling at half the price, but selling twice as many units, the game itself would be in a much healthier state, for multiplayer requires for a certain amount of people to own (and a subset of them then actually play) the game.

40,- € for base game, 30,- € for season passes would have been my intuitive price point with maybe setting the base game on sale every once in a while after one year after release or so.
With that, they would have gotten 100,- € easily from me. Now they got 60,- and it might quite possibly stay at that. Not sure how I feel about buying any dlc, yet, for an almost dead multiplayer game.
Sometimes Japanese gaming companies feel oddly out of touch with the European market...

i'm still buying every future season pass the moment they come out + all dlc fighters, pretty sure there's a lot of people doing the same. honestly I think their only mistake was not making it cross-platform with Switch, it really is the definitive way to play Standard digitally otherwise (aside from collabs...)

[Silverblade]

Not supporting cross-play was definitely a mistake.
But again, you and me only make two cases. You can see on steamcharts that the game is all in all not so popular.
My intuition tells me that it could have been much more popular, though. I had landed on this title for a reason. We're in a weird market situation for online trading or collectible card games right now. Most of the ones that are still supported are rediculously priced (MTG Arena, Hearthstone, etc.). I consider taking a long time to grind out cards as "rediculously priced" as well here, as to a degree time equals money in an economic sense.

[Silverblade]

I kind of forgot to make my point there in my last post, so here it comes:
I feel like there is a certain market niche for a high quality, long term supported, but also still rather affordable online trading or collectible card game. And this game could have been it.
But at its current price point, it just missed being that.

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by Silverblade:

Not supporting cross-play was definitely a mistake.
But again, you and me only make two cases. You can see on steamcharts that the game is all in all not so popular.
My intuition tells me that it could have been much more popular, though. I had landed on this title for a reason. We're in a weird market situation for online trading or collectible card games right now. Most of the ones that are still supported are rediculously priced (MTG Arena, Hearthstone, etc.). I consider taking a long time to grind out cards as "rediculously priced" as well here, as to a degree time equals money in an economic sense.

this is the best priced game of all the big card games, i spent $600 in master duel and i have TWO DECKS... i have to keep dismantling and crafting new cards to make a single deck to fit new metas when they come, it's not playable without spending money if you want to be in the meta. this game i only paid like what, a bit over $200 and have access to every card, every rarity, etc and it's the full format of Standard with no compromise aside from the collab cards? MTG arena is also very bad, and in Hearthstone I only play with Whizbang because anything else would cost too much again.

[Silverblade]

Originally posted by mimizukari:

Originally posted by Silverblade:

Not supporting cross-play was definitely a mistake.
But again, you and me only make two cases. You can see on steamcharts that the game is all in all not so popular.
My intuition tells me that it could have been much more popular, though. I had landed on this title for a reason. We're in a weird market situation for online trading or collectible card games right now. Most of the ones that are still supported are rediculously priced (MTG Arena, Hearthstone, etc.). I consider taking a long time to grind out cards as "rediculously priced" as well here, as to a degree time equals money in an economic sense.

this is the best priced game of all the big card games, i spent $600 in master duel and i have TWO DECKS... i have to keep dismantling and crafting new cards to make a single deck to fit new metas when they come, it's not playable without spending money if you want to be in the meta. this game i only paid like what, a bit over $200 and have access to every card, every rarity, etc and it's the full format of Standard with no compromise aside from the collab cards? MTG arena is also very bad, and in Hearthstone I only play with Whizbang because anything else would cost too much again.

That's exactly my point. It's the most affordable in comparison by large, but still too expensive to actually ride that market advantage home. It was still too expensive too become popular despite this unique market positioning. It could have been so much more. There was a real opportunity there. Now it's dwindling in player numbers close to the point of becoming unplayable in multiplayer.

[COCAINE BEAR]

As others said this is a much more honest way to monetize a digital card game than F2P gacha like Master Duel. And AI play is quite adequate in this game so I don't care about online...I do wish there was a way to have AI use a deck you built against you though.

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by COCAINE BEAR:

As others said this is a much more honest way to monetize a digital card game than F2P gacha like Master Duel. And AI play is quite adequate in this game so I don't care about online...I do wish there was a way to have AI use a deck you built against you though.

yea, literally, whenever I can't find someone for ranked duels I just go duel AI, it's why I bought all the AI fighters the moment they come out. the hard AI is pretty decent, normally i don't have to wait longer than 5 mins for a ranked queue though, there are people playing, even if you face the same people a lot.

[Silverblade]

Among all the card games, this one, in my opinion is the best value for the price. No argument here from me against that.
Among all videogames, it is not... But it could have been a bit more competitive.
Which is all I ever wanted to comment in regards to the "sweetspot" in pricing here. And it was only meant as a side comment to be honest. The purpose of this thread for me was to figure out if waiting for the coming Steam sale would be worth it because I had already waited for the Halloween sale, and it wasn't on sale. So why wait for a sale if it never gets one.

So, at least you might find me here as another opponent online at some point. Gotta get some cards first, though. ;)

[COCAINE BEAR]

You won't ever see a well priced and well made digital version of a physical card game in the near future, they all decided to kneecap their digital version to get people to play physical eventually

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by COCAINE BEAR:

You won't ever see a well priced and well made digital version of a physical card game in the near future, they all decided to kneecap their digital version to get people to play physical eventually

it is well-priced and well-made though? it's only missing collab cards which is understandable because of licensing, many games unfortunately don't have collab content once they make it to digital if the game has any long-term support going on since they'd have to keep renewing the licenses.

[COCAINE BEAR]

Originally posted by mimizukari:

Originally posted by COCAINE BEAR:

You won't ever see a well priced and well made digital version of a physical card game in the near future, they all decided to kneecap their digital version to get people to play physical eventually

it is well-priced and well-made though? it's only missing collab cards which is understandable because of licensing, many games unfortunately don't have collab content once they make it to digital if the game has any long-term support going on since they'd have to keep renewing the licenses.

I would argue that this is well made (other than the wonky translation but I think that's present in the physical game too) but not particularly well priced in terms of entertainment per dollar, not compared to other card games.

[Silverblade]

Originally posted by COCAINE BEAR:

Originally posted by mimizukari:

it is well-priced and well-made though? it's only missing collab cards which is understandable because of licensing, many games unfortunately don't have collab content once they make it to digital if the game has any long-term support going on since they'd have to keep renewing the licenses.

I would argue that this is well made (other than the wonky translation but I think that's present in the physical game too) but not particularly well priced in terms of entertainment per dollar, not compared to other card games.

Now I am curious:
Which other card games of comparable quality do you feel are better priced?