Cardfight!! Vanguard Dear Days

Cardfight!! Vanguard Dear Days

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Ren Hiraoka Nov 29, 2022 @ 5:10pm
Overprice Trash
Really even Persona 5 Royal cost less then this trash Yugioh wannabe game.
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NightHatter Nov 29, 2022 @ 5:16pm 
While the price is a problem, this is definitely nothing like Yugioh. At this point yugioh is also definitely not a good game either and I'd actually put the current Vanguard above the current iteration of yugioh. But yes this is definitely overpriced.
mimizukari Nov 29, 2022 @ 5:27pm 
and yet i've played this 6x more than persona 5 royal and will probs play it muuuuuch longer. I put P5R on the backlog after picking this up.
Ninon Joubert Nov 29, 2022 @ 5:59pm 
Originally posted by deneb altair vega:
and yet i've played this 6x more than persona 5 royal and will probs play it muuuuuch longer. I put P5R on the backlog after picking this up.
Time spent vs money spent is a very flawed way of evaluating if a game is more or less worth the price.
It might take me less time to eat a high-class desert than a packet of pringles, that doesn't mean the pringles are better because it gave me more time for the money spent. The high-class desert wasn't just a different experience, it was a higher quality one that left me more fulfilled too.
mimizukari Nov 29, 2022 @ 6:06pm 
Originally posted by Hua:
Originally posted by deneb altair vega:
and yet i've played this 6x more than persona 5 royal and will probs play it muuuuuch longer. I put P5R on the backlog after picking this up.
Time spent vs money spent is a very flawed way of evaluating if a game is more or less worth the price.
It might take me less time to eat a high-class desert than a packet of pringles, that doesn't mean the pringles are better because it gave me more time for the money spent. The high-class desert wasn't just a different experience, it was a higher quality one that left me more fulfilled too.
i wouldn't consider P5R higher quality than this, like any JRPG it gets pretty stale 20 hours in with repetitive combat and necessary grinding and so on. This is definitely a much higher quality game than P5R in nearly every way except story and the animated cutscenes.
Ninon Joubert Nov 29, 2022 @ 6:50pm 
Originally posted by deneb altair vega:
i wouldn't consider P5R higher quality than this, like any JRPG it gets pretty stale 20 hours in with repetitive combat and necessary grinding and so on. This is definitely a much higher quality game than P5R in nearly every way except story and the animated cutscenes.
You can't argue that quality is higher elsewhere because you don't enjoy the gameplay loop the game presents, especially when it's evident some others who like the genre actually do.
Trying to argue Dear Days' quality is appalling however. Outside of the obvious translation issues, this is a port that hasn't ran well for quite a few people (evident by people frustrated by the crashing), the UI hasn't been changed for the platform it's on and it feels horrendous to play compared to other card games on PC as a result (and the same goes for the deck builder), and aesthetically it's pleasing but not remotely impressive. Shall we talk about the servers randomly disconnecting people and the complete lack of options in the settings menu too? We can completely ignore bad design decisions or ones I personally dislike (such as RQs counting as draws or being unable to turn off animations online), because it could all be argued to be subjective, and you still end up with a game that's hard to argue has nearly the quality it should for the price tag.
I'm not going to argue that Dear Days is more or less fun than P5R because it's down to taste (and I'm not going to bother with the actual writing outside of localisation because I'm not qualified to make fair criticism of it), but arguing that Dear Days has such high quality is sheer madness.

I like Vanguard more than Persona, I'm not trying to ♥♥♥♥ on you. It's simply very hard for me to see eye-to-eye with what you're saying.
gredora Nov 29, 2022 @ 8:38pm 
OP is unaware that this "yugioh wannabe" was made by the guy who worked with Kazuki Takahashi.
Bubbacolo Nov 29, 2022 @ 11:02pm 
damn no wonder people moved out from YGO, thanks OP for clarifying
Lunamorte Nov 30, 2022 @ 1:11am 
Originally posted by deneb altair vega:
Originally posted by Hua:
Time spent vs money spent is a very flawed way of evaluating if a game is more or less worth the price.
It might take me less time to eat a high-class desert than a packet of pringles, that doesn't mean the pringles are better because it gave me more time for the money spent. The high-class desert wasn't just a different experience, it was a higher quality one that left me more fulfilled too.
i wouldn't consider P5R higher quality than this, like any JRPG it gets pretty stale 20 hours in with repetitive combat and necessary grinding and so on. This is definitely a much higher quality game than P5R in nearly every way except story and the animated cutscenes.

Persona 5 is very obviously of a higher quality and production value. To argue otherwise just screams white knight. No matter how much you enjoy vanguard more than Persona, it doesn't change that Persona is a higher quality game; that is just a fact. They spent far more making Persona 5 and it shows.

Yes, this game is a lot of fun. However, it is also very much overpriced.
Last edited by Lunamorte; Nov 30, 2022 @ 1:14am
You are correct.
99 Nov 30, 2022 @ 6:11am 
then buy persona 5 instead of vanguard lmao, nobody is forcing u to buy vanguard. RIP brain cells
gredora Nov 30, 2022 @ 7:00am 
Originally posted by uL Willy-G:
Originally posted by gredora:
OP is unaware that this "yugioh wannabe" was made by the guy who worked with Kazuki Takahashi.
op is a persona stan, most of them dont even have the brain power to know jazz music existed before persona was made


I can't believe Japan named a whole city because of Persona 5
Flamescion Nov 30, 2022 @ 7:18pm 
Except Cardfight is basically superior to YGO in every single way, and has been for almost a decade.
mimizukari Nov 30, 2022 @ 8:53pm 
Originally posted by Flamescion:
Except Cardfight is basically superior to YGO in every single way, and has been for almost a decade.
IDK about almost a decade, I think Yu-Gi-Oh started to decline in quality around 2018-2019, but until then I really felt like nothing really came close in quality. Just hope for the future that CFV never goes down that route and keeps every deck unique without the crazy power creep that happens in other TCGs.
Lair42 Nov 30, 2022 @ 9:02pm 
Originally posted by deneb altair vega:
Originally posted by Flamescion:
Except Cardfight is basically superior to YGO in every single way, and has been for almost a decade.
IDK about almost a decade, I think Yu-Gi-Oh started to decline in quality around 2018-2019, but until then I really felt like nothing really came close in quality. Just hope for the future that CFV never goes down that route and keeps every deck unique without the crazy power creep that happens in other TCGs.
It's not abot powercreep, it's more like "let me combo for 20minutes straight on my first turn and OTK you". Dunno which part of it is more annoying. I want to play card game and have fun, not to look at my opponent playing solitaire.
People just trying to farm clown awards honestly
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