Q U A G M I R E

[Hunu]

Quagmire grind is long and dull. This whole "wall" has been incredibly frustrating. The variance of the Radon reward is also super annoying, if you have anything less than good luck with void maps it feels like a wasted run.

Unlocking Spire Assault was cool for the first couple of days, but now that progress is stuck behind my highest level void map clear... And seriously the grind to take a run up to 95 then complete a VM at 95 looks like it will be literally days. I am no more capable or efficient than I was nearly 2T Radon ago.

I really wish that you could filter heirlooms into a pile that has at least two of the mods you want so you don't have to look at every last one to check for a potential improvement.

While I'm still whining I might as well say that I wish some more things in the game were sign-posted or explained. Considering the majority of conversations about Trimps are usually describing various minimum stats for success in X challenge or to achieve whatever goal or pointing players to guides... It feels to me like the challenges could have a "suggested Radon" or something like this, or details on the highest health/attack enemy you might encounter... Just something that can prevent you wasting a ♥♥♥♥ load of time... Like especially with daily quests, I wasted so much time and potential when they were first unlocked because I was doing them instead of repeatable ones, and then in U2 we have them by like zone 70 or something (I don't remember, I've been on quagmire for nearly a month) but the consensus is they're a waste of time in U2 till z200... The ones with affixes that might help you push higher aren't even really worthwhile.

And one final complaint... I've been in U2 so long that I've forgotten what U1 is like, I went back the other day to do a run and realised I've basically forgotten everything. I don't want to set up Map to Zone or anything -_- I'm sure I'm missing out on something by not revisiting U1 often, but how can you have time to do that with runs taking so long in U2 to get nowhere?

Well... I'll go back to Quagmire runs till Archaeology isn't a 3 day complete. Catch you all on the flippedy flip!

EDIT: More thoughts on heirlooms. Make the default name the initials/acronym of all the mods it has so you can see without clicking what it's got.

[Pfannesium]

i am now in Portal 561 in U2 and can only push to 80. i hate U2 and do all the daily in U1 all 3-4 days to get a bit coolness back from this game. U2 is a gamechanger, i dont like this game anymore lol

[Hunu]

Originally posted by Pfannesium:

i am now in Portal 561 in U2 and can only push to 80. i hate U2 and do all the daily in U1 all 3-4 days to get a bit coolness back from this game. U2 is a gamechanger, i dont like this game anymore lol

Sounds like you're in a worse spot than me :P

From what I can see, I've done 665 portals total, and 261 of those were in U2. Which number did your 561 refer to??

And maybe you were joking, but I still like the game. I just think that with the benefit of hindsight and now my own experience playing it, there's plenty of things that could be improved about the gameplay loop.

[Nico]

I'm at 1520 Radon portals and am at Zone 240.

I actually really enjoy U2, since it's simply different from U1 and lacks all the annying features U1 had, like Nature, where you had to be sure to use the poison zones to get good enough equipment so you can push to the next poison zones ... and those green helium upgrades are also quite annoying, since you have to buy soo many compared to the other upgrades. I really prefer the compounding upgrades, where a single level always has a lot of value.

I guess the part before archeology and the next heirloom tier maybe really was a little bit slow, but in general I really enjoyed the quagmire time, since I didn't had to pay much attention, I simply had to start it and after a while it was finished so I could restart it. I mean, I play an idle game because I like idling. And as long as it still feels like I make progress with every run that's totally fine. Though it also felt like SA is extremely important to be able to push further in U2 ... since SA gives quite big rewards.

And going back to U1 regularly to do dailies always felt like a mistake to me. With all the new buffs that you find in U2 you can get so much more Helium in U1 that the helium amounts you got before are basically nothing in comparison. So going back regularly doesn't do much compared to doing one run later where you simply get way more. It just slows you down in U1, which in return means that it takes longer until you get the bigger bonuses for U1 as well. I think I even did one helium run where I got x1000 the helium I had before.

I only went back to U1 like twice so far, to boost the C² numbers. And sure, obviously also doing a few quick helium runs in preparation. But now my C²s are mostly black, so I only have to redo a handful of them in the future, since the rest sits in front of the obsidian.

[Hunu]

Originally posted by Nico:

And as long as it still feels like I make progress with every run that's totally fine.

This is probably my main issue. I don't really feel like I'm making any gains and haven't in weeks. I got a whole bunch at once and now I'm on a progress drought where I just cross my fingers to get more than 200b radon so I don't feel like the run is wasted. When I read about when to start archaeology, the suggested radon ranges from 2/4T all the way up to 10T. I'm probably another week away given how long these farming runs are taking.

I haven't been back to U1 to boost my C2s, I felt like I needed a bit more progress in U2 so I could push the obsidian back to at least reach the next spire. I did go back at one point and do a daily and I did get a huge boost (probably not 1000x) to my helium. This said, is helium doing anything for us in U2? I really don't know.

Also, the number of portals you have done vs your your current zone has made my blood run cold, lol. How long have you been playing Trimps for in general? You must have brought your save from the browser, or I'm playing insanely inefficiently, lol.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Hunu:

This is probably my main issue. I don't really feel like I'm making any gains and haven't in weeks. I got a whole bunch at once and now I'm on a progress drought where I just cross my fingers to get more than 200b radon so I don't feel like the run is wasted. When I read about when to start archaeology, the suggested radon ranges from 2/4T all the way up to 10T. I'm probably another week away given how long these farming runs are taking.

I haven't been back to U1 to boost my C2s, I felt like I needed a bit more progress in U2 so I could push the obsidian back to at least reach the next spire. I did go back at one point and do a daily and I did get a huge boost (probably not 1000x) to my helium. This said, is helium doing anything for us in U2? I really don't know.

Also, the number of portals you have done vs your your current zone has made my blood run cold, lol. How long have you been playing Trimps for in general? You must have brought your save from the browser, or I'm playing insanely inefficiently, lol.

Wel, 200B per run if you only need 2T is actually quite a lot, since it's just a mere 10 runs, which seems pretty low to me. And at least from what I remember those runs did usually only take me a few hours each, maybe except for when I first tried a new Radon challenge or tried to make it harder to increase the Radon earned. Or at least I usually tried to make them that difficult that they take like 3-6h each.

Helium might be useless for U2, but with more helium you can get better C² scores, so still quite useful. And since the C³ are multiplicative they obviously also matter a lot. Though I guess the really big U1 buffs only really happen once you crossed Zone 100.

And yes, I used to play on the browser, but I also did something like a 2 or 3 year break. Also, just for comparison, I have 1377 U1 portals. So I guess in total I have close to 2900 portals. And I think that nowadays the U1 progress is a bit smoother than it used to be back when I played. Back then Magma wasn't even a thing yet ... the same with the map at zone feature. Maybe I'm just too terrified from my experience of having no map at zone feature available so that now these fully automated quagmire runs just seem like heaven to me? idk ...

[Hunu]

Originally posted by Nico:

Originally posted by Hunu:

This is probably my main issue. I don't really feel like I'm making any gains and haven't in weeks. I got a whole bunch at once and now I'm on a progress drought where I just cross my fingers to get more than 200b radon so I don't feel like the run is wasted. When I read about when to start archaeology, the suggested radon ranges from 2/4T all the way up to 10T. I'm probably another week away given how long these farming runs are taking.

I haven't been back to U1 to boost my C2s, I felt like I needed a bit more progress in U2 so I could push the obsidian back to at least reach the next spire. I did go back at one point and do a daily and I did get a huge boost (probably not 1000x) to my helium. This said, is helium doing anything for us in U2? I really don't know.

Also, the number of portals you have done vs your your current zone has made my blood run cold, lol. How long have you been playing Trimps for in general? You must have brought your save from the browser, or I'm playing insanely inefficiently, lol.

Wel, 200B per run if you only need 2T is actually quite a lot, since it's just a mere 10 runs, which seems pretty low to me. And at least from what I remember those runs did usually only take me a few hours each, maybe except for when I first tried a new Radon challenge or tried to make it harder to increase the Radon earned. Or at least I usually tried to make them that difficult that they take like 3-6h each.

Helium might be useless for U2, but with more helium you can get better C² scores, so still quite useful. And since the C³ are multiplicative they obviously also matter a lot. Though I guess the really big U1 buffs only really happen once you crossed Zone 100.

And yes, I used to play on the browser, but I also did something like a 2 or 3 year break. Also, just for comparison, I have 1377 U1 portals. So I guess in total I have close to 2900 portals. And I think that nowadays the U1 progress is a bit smoother than it used to be back when I played. Back then Magma wasn't even a thing yet ... the same with the map at zone feature. Maybe I'm just too terrified from my experience of having no map at zone feature available so that now these fully automated quagmire runs just seem like heaven to me? idk ...

My quagmire runs, set up to touch them as little as possible take about 5 hours to complete, can be close to 6 with great luck on void maps. Can be cut down to 4 hours if I babysit a little, but like I said... Sometimes 5 hours is 100b, a wasted run, or half a good run, you know so that 10 runs isn't a guarantee. besides, I need 10T from what I can tell to be farming on archaeology, I probably did my first two runs to completion too early, Auto Gold+ is dumb, lol. So more like 80 runs. Obviously if I keep speccing into Radon type perks it will come quicker, but I'm bored, lol. It's taking a lot of will power not to cheat with save editor to skip this grind, or just quit playing outright.

Have a good day everyone!

[Nico]

Originally posted by Hunu:

Originally posted by Nico:

Wel, 200B per run if you only need 2T is actually quite a lot, since it's just a mere 10 runs, which seems pretty low to me. And at least from what I remember those runs did usually only take me a few hours each, maybe except for when I first tried a new Radon challenge or tried to make it harder to increase the Radon earned. Or at least I usually tried to make them that difficult that they take like 3-6h each.

Helium might be useless for U2, but with more helium you can get better C² scores, so still quite useful. And since the C³ are multiplicative they obviously also matter a lot. Though I guess the really big U1 buffs only really happen once you crossed Zone 100.

And yes, I used to play on the browser, but I also did something like a 2 or 3 year break. Also, just for comparison, I have 1377 U1 portals. So I guess in total I have close to 2900 portals. And I think that nowadays the U1 progress is a bit smoother than it used to be back when I played. Back then Magma wasn't even a thing yet ... the same with the map at zone feature. Maybe I'm just too terrified from my experience of having no map at zone feature available so that now these fully automated quagmire runs just seem like heaven to me? idk ...

My quagmire runs, set up to touch them as little as possible take about 5 hours to complete, can be close to 6 with great luck on void maps. Can be cut down to 4 hours if I babysit a little, but like I said... Sometimes 5 hours is 100b, a wasted run, or half a good run, you know so that 10 runs isn't a guarantee. besides, I need 10T from what I can tell to be farming on archaeology, I probably did my first two runs to completion too early, Auto Gold+ is dumb, lol. So more like 80 runs. Obviously if I keep speccing into Radon type perks it will come quicker, but I'm bored, lol. It's taking a lot of will power not to cheat with save editor to skip this grind, or just quit playing outright.

Have a good day everyone!

Well, like I said, I did do a longer break of like 2 years, and I think it was around when I was doing Melt or Quagmire. Though I guess that was also since there wasn't super much content left so I didn't had much motivation to go through that grind. I always need some kind of a goal I strive towards, otherwise I easily can get too bored to continue playing.

[Pfannesium]

Originally posted by Hunu:

Originally posted by Pfannesium:

i am now in Portal 561 in U2 and can only push to 80. i hate U2 and do all the daily in U1 all 3-4 days to get a bit coolness back from this game. U2 is a gamechanger, i dont like this game anymore lol

Sounds like you're in a worse spot than me :P

From what I can see, I've done 665 portals total, and 261 of those were in U2. Which number did your 561 refer to??

And maybe you were joking, but I still like the game. I just think that with the benefit of hindsight and now my own experience playing it, there's plenty of things that could be improved about the gameplay loop.

a joke, but a bit of a truth^^
i am U1 portal 1436 and U2 Portal 573 (3700h playtime xD)