thoughts after finishing this wonderful Visual novel at last .

[greengoo]

hi

OK 60+ hours, of time spent, over 160+ quests
after getting level 2 in all the equipment.
having over 80% friendship score with most masters, and 100 with a few of the sects heads.
having 25 sword moves
having 26 sabre moves
having 19 pole-arm moves
having 34 fist moves
having 18 hidden weapon moves
having 11 movement moves
having 30 cultivation moves

whiles having 94 skill books of all sorts...

i have 70 in the lady in white, and would have had 90 in the lady in red if not fora guide on steam, that permitted me to back track 10 min's to get the 1 cut scene i missed.
i know i picked up a wooden weapon but.. due to a bug i never kept it and forgot to require it, so i only has 60 for little sister. was gutted really.

i have the following to say.

i've only scratched the outer edges of this game.

i can say the following, most locations you go to that are not default have extra hidden loot boxes that are one time events.

for instance due to my lack of saving, i missed going to the forbidden areas of the sholin temple.

in your own sect, there is an extra loot box that is in a place a normal disciple stand in the day time. but only that once at night....

there is a lot of blink and you will miss events. i have no clue how many i missed, so exploring can net you a few extra items.

its truly massive game, i love my time playing it... well part from the end.


i have a few bad thoughts mind.

frosty condor was in my party, i had 100% with the condor master... yet he still never questioned the bad guy at the end. so bleaving me guilty. never asking frosty condor for what she witnessed. that hurt.

the cops factions knew i had there detective guy but never asked him.... if i was innocent. true he was not in my main force but still. that hurt.

the guy in my own sect who was the attack leader of that battle i had 100 friendship with the guy, i was one of the people who would have been the new sect leader.... still never believed me.?? that really hurt. let me be a head disiple and so faction leader candidate... but never trusted me... hurt and was VERY VERY disjointed. so left me hurt and bewildered.



so in the end my view was... wonderfully immersive story, but a story that my actions never mattered. except in a few cut scene that never carried any weight. it was in essence wonderful interactive book, but a book you really had no say in what happened. white lady was totally sowing signs she loved me but missesa few triggers and so 70% was not 100%.... that was... strange, ok not enough to win her at the end but.. why act that way then??

i also hated that fact that a lot of bosses never left you get them below 50%. i was beating them without a scratch. good equipment healing 300 to 600 at the end of my actions will do that.

so as you may under stand my ending was.. hard on me . it was lovely to have the red lady, at the end, but i would have missed her if i was playing for real. so left me empty. all the effort to make friends, yet none of them chose to even ask me my side. left me feeling empty really.

so what i would do to improve it.


have your partly member begin asked, at key moments out side of there side quest would be nice..

having level 100 friendship side quest for all the masters, so that your friendship can carry weight in cut scene later, would be nice.

cut scene you have, never mattering later, because of the plot. aka why its a Visual novel to me.

having your world renown never mattering. (e.g. how many folks you have at 20% or above friendship score with) so that your dual can effect things like world opinion, would be nice.

in other words have your actions carry more weight.

having the option to end the end boss at the end would have been nice. yea i had 100% so let them live. that felt rough knowing it only delayed them laying waste to the world by a few months at most. left the game feeling hollow.

but the biggest upset for me

never knowing who your dad was.... he seamed important,?? but you never get told any facts about him, they knew of your uncle, but there was zero comment about who your dad was...

i also found a monkey in an abandoned temple.. he gave me some thing... never found out what it was for. that bugs me to this day.

had a cook book.. never found out who i was meant to give it too. that was sad.

had a letter for some one... but never found then to give it to them.but it was not a quest. so there was nothing but a name to go by.

lack of people.... the world felt barren and empty, but all the battle was teaming with life. this world has 20 men to every 1 woman. so no wonder why you need 100% with a lady.

never finding commander mu, to get her pole arm skill, was a pain. or even inviting her into my party... would be nice to have bad ass old lady for my battle quad. i can imagine her main attack being foul language, with 2K damage as a base.



so in closing

so this game was a wonderful rich world building Visual novel, i really enjoyed it. but the ending lacked massively and... may effect if i ever pay it again. 60+ hours is a lot of time to invest in an ending that if you miss even one event trigger, that hidden.. could leave you with no one by your side at the end...... so much like life i suppose. still pretty brutal, for a game.

[ΛeΛcus]

wow sounds really intense, I'm at my 12hr clock now. looking forward!

[jackwong1978]

The monkey gives you a sword ultimate skill. Cook book, I also have it. Not given to anyone yet. There is a will you pick up from windless mountain. That is for a women in the town near it (the one with a big stage where you stayed before going to windless mountain)

[greengoo]

missed 4 fist skills from Kulao at the top of the stair case from just be final battle.. so i'll have to collect them. that would make 38 fist skills.

Thank jack, i never got that just the letter. had a lot of random cut scene with no quest that made no sense hence why i have no clue what he gave.

but it seam fist is the most really available path for skills.

stats at the end are
STR : 182
CON : 204
AG : 195
IP : 188

attack(sword) : 1542
DEF : 2325
Crit : 60.90%
EVA : 44.51%
Qi : 1000
Move : 8

HP : 10501
MP : 12536
stam : 150

main cultivation skills
story method
muscle- changing scripture
golden bell
the yoga sutras

my crew had
golden bell
the yoga Sutras
Zen demon- subduing spell
five balance Sutra

part from frosty condor who
golden bell
the yoga Sutras
five balance Sutra
deluge of blood

lightness skills
every one had
wudung lightness skill
gostly shadow

frosty condor also had
condor leap

why?
Golden bell has enter the battle field effect for defence.
the yoga Sutras gave me re-gen at the end of each turn.
Zen demon- subduing spell gave me 20 STR
five balance Sutra gave me enter the battle field damage buffs.
delude of blood, thematic sect skill that helper condor damage move.

had had the "great mounting method" till i got "golden bell"
also had "health care method" till i had "the yoga Sutras"
had "bibo mantra sutas" on sword folks till "five balance Sutra" was unlocked.

all hidden weapon folks have "the 6 knacks instead of "golden bell", not front liner so extra range damage is fun.

every one had
wudung lightness skill for the 5 AG
gostly shadow for the 10 AG
frostly had condor leap for the 5AG, it helped it was thematic as well.

last two slot.. what ever looked good.

final party was
Shangguan Hong
Sima Ling
Lu Xian'er
Frosty Condor

because they had different weapons skill sets. which meant different skill set to choose from, which meant more adaptability on the battle field.

would have liked to have switched my self out for song wrecking bird so i could have a hidden weapon all star as well, but not an option on 2 counts it seams.

hope you find this update helpful.

[blizzcarsten]

Originally posted by greengoo:

final party was
Shangguan Hong
Sima Ling
Lu Xian'er
Frosty Condor

because they had different weapons skill sets. which meant different skill set to choose from, which meant more adaptability on the battle field.

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I mean this will be my final Party as well, but at least i don't need false excuses :p. Currently i am still using Big J tough until i get Condor.

Not that Companions matter much compared to the Immortal MC.

PS : This is not a Visual Novel.

[greengoo]

its a visual novel. there is literally no chose that matters bar in dating. where 0% and 99% are the same thing.
so there in essence only 4 variable that effect your ending for a total of 11 variations.

ending intro choice
best friend yes/no yes = 100, no =0 to 99

who you end up with.
white lady, yes/ no. yes = 100, no =0 to 99
red lady, yes /no. yes = 100, no =0 to 99
sister lasting friendship, yes/no yes = 80, no =0 to 79
white lady, red lady 100/100 = yes
white lady, red lady & sister 100/100/80 = yes
other wise nobody like you.

without help, from a walk though, you will most likely end up with nothing. missing a key cut scene is to easy.

so that the most common ending , its the ending i should have gotten.

this is about as much of a variable in endings, as you get in your typical visual novel.

so its just a visual novel. with a fighting mechanic.

but your more then welcome to disagree with me.

[blizzcarsten]

Originally posted by greengoo:

so its just a visual novel. with a fighting mechanic.

but your more then welcome to disagree with me.

Well no offense but you clearly doesn't have the slightest clue what a Visual Novel is. With your Explanation literally any RPG is a Visual Novel, Meaningless Choices don;t turn a Game into a Visual Novel.

For a Game to count as a Visual Novel, Reading Text must at least cover up at least 90-100% of the Game. This is not a Visual Novel, it is not even a text heavy Game, which would be one Tier below Visual Novel. It's just a common RPG with a rarely seen Wuxia Setting.

[devil]

this will be unforgettable memory for a long time.swordsmen theme always attract me