Passengers shoot from vehicles is a must-have

[Necropolis Enthusiast]

I am aware that Klamacz has already stated that this is not a planned feature for Reforger, mainly due to the fact that a mod for this mechanic already exists by the name 'DRIVE-BY'.


However, I'd like to reason that this feature should be heavily considered for vanilla because:

•Encountering enemies in any four-wheeler always leads to a battle of the quickest who can get out of the car(s) first. Pair this with the slow process of getting out of a vehicle in this situation makes it not practical or realistic at all when the passengers in this situation are armed and should be able to use their weapon from their currently seated position in the vehicle to defend themselves.

•Ambushes against vehicles carrying personnel are a very often be pre-determined result in death for those in the vehicles due to the fact that they can't fight back and will likely die before they finish getting out of the vehicle. Combat here is often not fair but passengers should at least be given a fighting chance by using their weapon in this situation.

•The armed vehicles are often useless in combat situations similar to the ones I am describing. Even if a transport truck full of supplies is being escorted by an armed humvee, all the attackers need to do is take out the gunner of that humvee and all of them are done for within seconds as, once again, they cannot defend themselves when in their vehicle.

•The mod in question that was implied, 'DRIVE-BY', is not that good of a stand-in for the mechanic due to compatibility issues with modded weapons, alongside a few bugs with the mod. Given the lack of transparency with the mod developer regarding this mod, it's unlikely this will be fixed and server owners do not include the mod in their servers because of this.


My overall point about the consideration of this mechanic in vanilla is that by default, players are punished by using vehicles as they literally cannot defend themselves in combat whilst in that vehicle. On top of being unrealistic, it's simply unfair and should not be left as a by-product of using vehicles to transport players or supplies.

In addition, don't brother bringing up the armed vehicles in place of this mechanic. I have already explained that they are not useful in this situation as the gunners of these vehicles, whilst armed, depend on the control of the driver to be less vulnerable and are easily killed at a medium-close range.

Being able to defend yourself in a vehicle as a passenger should be included into Reforger's scope for the reasons I have stated and I hope it is at least considered at some point if not right now.

[Necropolis Enthusiast]

bump

[Sw33tPotatoh]

I like this idea, even if the mod exists this is something that should be standard due to it being realistic and done in practice.

The passenger mobility and view can be limited, and making the weapon less accurate seems like a reasonable trade off. This won't work for some vehicles with armored glass or a view port. But for jeeps, helicopters, humvees, and supply trucks this should be considered. Players can just break the regular glass with the gun, it's pointless anyways.

I think the humvee front window can withstand up to 7.62mm, so anything shot at that should break it or ricochet accordingly.

[SPECTER]

I agree its must have but I think they are holding it for upcoming Arma 4

[Sw33tPotatoh]

This idea also came up in an online match this week. It wouldn't be OP either, you're a huge RPG target and most people end up hitting a tree or rock anyways