Arma helicopters are here!

[bybee1234]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/news/experimental-october-12-2023

anyone played yet? im not able too for a while. will love to check out some videos and see how it is.

What are your thoughts? how many helicopters did they add? hows the physics of it?

[stburr91]

Originally posted by Bremer:

Originally posted by stburr91:

I may be mistaken, but I do believe it was said that there will be not an advanced flight model in reforger.

Regardless, I wouldn't expect an advanced flight model, it's outside the scope of reforger. Also, the AFM in Arma 3 is locked to only 30 fps because it's pretty demanding on the cpu, so don't expect them to add it to reforger.

Yeah, and you aren't a pilot!

What? Why are you quoting me, and then replying with this comment?

[DeathWulf]

The worst part is, you can't invert the mouse controls when flying. That's pretty damn stupid that it's not even an option.

[stburr91]

Originally posted by matthewc:

The worst part is, you can't invert the mouse controls when flying. That's pretty damn stupid that it's not even an option.

This makes the helicopter unflyable for me. I can't understand why they would make the mouse controls backwards, it defies reason, and logic.

[Jegedillo]

The helis in this game feel a lot more weighty than they do in 3 in my opinion. Not a bad thing, just an observation.

[Paul]

Originally posted by JSNFARRELL:

Its just not here this early in development.

"this early" = After 10 years of engine development, after ~3+ years of game development. :))

[Japo32]

Managed to use a program called x360ce to simulate a Xbox Controller with my Hotal Warthog and my pedals. All is working good, but the only thing is that the collective are buttons, and not axis, and that is a shame. I suppose they are not axis as collective should go from 0 to 100, and axis in Pads are from 50 to 100 or 0... so that is something that needs to be adressed by BI, that I hope they put truth joystick support.
Consoles are good for selling numbers, but we loose lots of animation features because of them.

[Haggis]

Originally posted by matthewc:

The worst part is, you can't invert the mouse controls when flying. That's pretty damn stupid that it's not even an option.

That's insane, If I can't invert my Y-axis I can't fly. Damn.

[stburr91]

Originally posted by matthewc:

The worst part is, you can't invert the mouse controls when flying. That's pretty damn stupid that it's not even an option.

Originally posted by Haggis:

Originally posted by matthewc:

The worst part is, you can't invert the mouse controls when flying. That's pretty damn stupid that it's not even an option.

That's insane, If I can't invert my Y-axis I can't fly. Damn.

There seems to be a bug where the helicopter forward/backward mouse controls are inverted for some people. I reported the bug, if you are having the same problem, and want to add something to the ticket, you can find the ticket here.

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T177331

[Haggis]

Originally posted by stburr91:

Originally posted by matthewc:

The worst part is, you can't invert the mouse controls when flying. That's pretty damn stupid that it's not even an option.

Originally posted by Haggis:

That's insane, If I can't invert my Y-axis I can't fly. Damn.

There seems to be a bug where the helicopter forward/backward mouse controls are inverted for some people. I reported the bug, if you are having the same problem, and want to add something to the ticket, you can find the ticket here.

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T177331

Great thanks for this info. I'll try it and report if necessary.

[MurderChickenXL]

Well, I guess the update fixed the inverted mouse issue because I just replaced W and D with my preferred vertical mouse movement. You have to click Advanced keybinding at the bottom right when you hover over the key assignment.

My issue right now is, even though I don't have it bound to side to side mouse movement, it's still enabled somehow (tell me if I just overlooked the binding) and it's crazy sensitive. I don't see a mouse sensitivity option for flying specifically.

Took me three tries to complete the heli tutorial without crashing, and it took me almost 3 or 4 minutes just to line up the landing pad correctly. I'm kind of embarrassed about it.

[stburr91]

There are advanced key binding options that allowed me to fix the inverted mouse controls, I can't for the life of me understand why they would invert the mouse controls.

However, I don't like that you can't move the camera (in 3rd person), it's way too high above the helicopter, and it makes it very difficult to judge the pitch of the aircraft. This also creates a feeling that the helicopter is always nosediving. I really wish we could move the camera like we can in Arma 3.

[stburr91]

Originally posted by Rhinopithecus!:

Originally posted by stburr91:

There are advanced key binding options that allowed me to fix the inverted mouse controls, I can't for the life of me understand why they would invert the mouse controls.

However, I don't like that you can't move the camera (in 3rd person), it's way too high above the helicopter, and it makes it very difficult to judge the pitch of the aircraft. This also creates a feeling that the helicopter is always nosediving. I really wish we could move the camera like we can in Arma 3.

press ALT while moving the mouse when in view mode

Yes, I'm aware that you can free look, but I'm talking about moving the camera with the number pad like you can in Arma 3.

[Slyder Ace]

Based on what I read. I'll buy reforger since it's currently on sale but I won't even bother flying Helis until they have HOTAS support.

[areudeadyet]

Originally posted by Slyder Ace:

Based on what I read. I'll buy reforger since it's currently on sale but I won't even bother flying Helis until they have HOTAS support.

You should also buy a wheel as well so you can drive cars and trucks, because its unplayable with kb and mouse or gamepad.

[:]v[:Assassin]

I have to disagree, I think the helicopters in Arma Reforger are a lot harder to fly than all previous ArmA titles. I was a decent pilot (playing ArmA since before the orginal was even available in English, and back when ArmA is what we called it, but the game was officially titled Armed Assault). So far I'm having a heck of a time flying in ArmA Reforger. Part of the problem is being unable to map the mouse to some of the controls. Having to fly just with keyboard buttons is painful, a mouse offers much smoother movement (you can move it a little or a lot, slow or fast; whereas with ASDW you can't give it less movement than the minimum). Also i'm finding the throttle to be far more sluggish, and continues to apply long after you've let go of it. Also - no way to invert mouse???