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this game has been completely ruined.
This game has so much potential and could be truly enjoyable, but if it's unplayable, none of that matters. The developers clearly understand how to make this game a success, yet they refuse to put in the effort. Over the past week, the servers have been down for five out of seven days.

How do you feel about this? After going through this so many times, I’ve completely lost faith that things will ever get better.
Last edited by 캐루; Feb 7 @ 2:46pm
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It is quite frustrating and I can understand someone losing faith, especially when they only see it from the view of the average consumer.

DDoS attacks are no joke. It's similar to a roach infestation for an exterminator. The attacks just keep coming and all that traffic has to be filtered. Then when those DDoS attacks get filtered out and you recover, they just attack again with a different type.

https://www.esecurityplanet.com/networks/how-to-stop-ddos-attacks-tips-for-fighting-ddos-attacks/

The problem with this one on such a large scale is that it cost money. And with a non-live service game, that can be tricky. Stuff like this can literally bankrupt multi million dollar companies.

So, just try to view it from a different perspective.
Last edited by Revelene; Feb 7 @ 3:25pm
Its crazy cause I thought that everything was fixed this morning cause I could finally join the though a whole queue without being kicked out. Also the servers were strong and didnt crash after an hour of playing which was nice till I tried to get in this afternoon. LONG QUEUES AND INTERNET ISSUES AGAIN!!!!
THEY RENT THE SERVER ITS NOT THEIRE SERVERS its mostly G-PORTAL or some other 3thparty
Originally posted by sTill´Ed:
THEY RENT THE SERVER ITS NOT THEIRE SERVERS its mostly G-PORTAL or some other 3thparty

Pretty much all game servers are not owned by the developers. It is because it is absurdly expensive, even for a small server farm.
Originally posted by sTill´Ed:
THEY RENT THE SERVER ITS NOT THEIRE SERVERS its mostly G-PORTAL or some other 3thparty
Maybe switch providers or upgrade to the next tier of whichever server provider they are using, one with ddos protection. The servers were terrible even before these attacks.
Last edited by Sgt. Osiris; Feb 7 @ 3:38pm
Originally posted by Sgt. Osiris:
Originally posted by sTill´Ed:
THEY RENT THE SERVER ITS NOT THEIRE SERVERS its mostly G-PORTAL or some other 3thparty
Maybe switch providers or upgrade to the next tier of whichever server provider they are using, one with ddos protection. The servers were terrible even before these attacks.

DDoS protection does not mean immunity to DDoS attacks, unfortunately.
They're working hard to get everything back up and running but DDoS attacks are INCREDIBLY difficult to combat. Sony and Microsoft had something very similar happen with their online services back in I believe 2014 which took down Xbox Live and PSN for a few days right around christmas if I recall correctly.

The problem is that the attacks aren't coming from one central server, they're coming from what's known as a botnet (hundreds of thousands of compromised computers that are being used maliciously without the machine owners knowledge) so you can't really track it down to just one person. You can combat this through null-routing which is directing that traffic to a non existent IP address but this doesn't really work in something like a game because legit traffic would get sent there as well.

You can also have the servers identify malicious IP addresses and blacklist them which works for smaller scale attack but the problem there is that most IP's these days aren't static and those hundreds of thousands of compromised machines can simply get by this because of the widespread use of dynamic IP's.

There are bot detection methods that can be used but the success rate on that isn't really that great either. The best way they can combat this is by scrubbing all traffic that gets sent to the servers where bogus traffic gets sent to a bogus IP and legitimate traffic gets sent to the actual IP. This is very effective and is what I'm assuming Bohemia is currently doing but with a DDoS attack there is really no fully stopping it, you can only mitigate the problem until the attacker either gets caught or decides to stop.
Last edited by Vanny_Dorito; Feb 7 @ 3:47pm
Originally posted by v1tas:
Originally posted by Vanny_Dorito:
They're working hard to get everything back up and running but DDoS attacks are INCREDIBLY difficult to combat. Sony and Microsoft had something very similar happen with their online services back in I believe 2014 which took down Xbox Live and PSN for a few days right around christmas if I recall correctly.

The problem is that the attacks aren't coming from one central server, they're coming from what's known as a botnet (hundreds of thousands of compromised computers that are being used maliciously without the machine owners knowledge) so you can't really track it down to just one person. You can combat this through null-routing which is directing that traffic to a non existent IP address but this doesn't really work in something like a game because legit traffic would get sent there as well.

You can also have the servers identify malicious IP addresses and blacklist them which works for smaller scale attack but the problem there is that most IP's these days aren't static and those hundreds of thousands of compromised machines can simply get by this because of the widespread use of dynamic IP's.

There are bot detection methods that can be used but the success rate on that isn't really that great either. The best way they can combat this is by scrubbing all traffic that gets sent to the servers where bogus traffic gets sent to a bogus IP and legitimate traffic gets sent to the actual IP. This is very effective and is what I'm assuming Bohemia is currently doing but with a DDoS attack there is really no fully stopping it, you can only mitigate the problem until the attacker either gets caught or decides to stop.


there has to be something they can do, turn off all access for 2 weeks, give refunds, turn of servers for 2 months for maintenence.


the fact the hacker is in all the discords/forums and wanking off over the outrage is cringe enough, hes absolutely in full control and just shutting them down whenever he wants.


if ddosing is really that powerful its time to find new hobbies because why not do this to everysingle live service game at the same time for ever until you get everyone you want? this has to be costing the hacker resources, if you shut down all servers youd stop getting us to waste our time trying to play. If they would do anything.

these are industry veterans with over 30 years in the business and millions millions of dollars, have the highest quality of life in their country like wtf more do they ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ need


I get the sentiment but the fact that people have been able to connect at all during this week is evidence that they are doing a LOT to combat this attack. People genuinely do not understand how difficult it is to combat this. Like another user pointed out above it's like a roach infestation. Where there's one there's a thousand type of thing. It's not someone hacking into some back network thing. It's a brute force attack that sends a ton of garbage traffic to the targeted servers from a huge network of compromised computers. As I explained above there's ways to protect against it but no way to actually stop it largely due to the fact that even when IP's get blacklisted it doesn't really matter because of the widespread use of dynamic IP addresses. They can switch their own IP's as well but it does not take long for the attacker to find the new IP's and send traffic to those as well. Fighting a DDoS attack is one of the most insane uphill battles possible in the IT realm.
Originally posted by v1tas:
there has to be something they can do, turn off all access for 2 weeks, give refunds, turn of servers for 2 months for maintenence.


the fact the hacker is in all the discords/forums and wanking off over the outrage is cringe enough, hes absolutely in full control and just shutting them down whenever he wants.


if ddosing is really that powerful its time to find new hobbies because why not do this to everysingle live service game at the same time for ever until you get everyone you want? this has to be costing the hacker resources, if you shut down all servers youd stop getting us to waste our time trying to play. If they would do anything.

these are industry veterans with over 30 years in the business and millions millions of dollars, have the highest quality of life in their country like wtf more do they ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ need

If they do what you propose, that could easily bankrupt the company.

When one lives in a country that has no extradition, then nothing can really happen to stop to attacks going out.

DDoS is indeed very powerful. It isn't necessarily hard to combat, but when it is consistent and with changing types of attack, it simply overwhelms the servers. Think of a highway getting flooded with cars. You can direct traffic to mitigate, but imagine those cars just keep coming and coming, all different types of vehicles at various speeds cramming together.

DDoS attacking is a felony in most countries, which is why you don't see it happening more than it does. It is always people in countries that have no extradition, like Russia or China, so they have no fear of the law. Try to do a DDoS in a country like the USA, and it won't be long until the law is busting your door down with a swat team.

Another issue with DDoS attacks is that they are usually done from infected computers, making it that much harder to filter and mitigate.

FYI, the servers are not owned by Bohemia. Server farms are absurdly expensive and hardly any game studio (or any company in general) has their own servers for their online games/services.
Last edited by Revelene; Feb 7 @ 4:08pm
Originally posted by v1tas:
Originally posted by Vanny_Dorito:


I get the sentiment but the fact that people have been able to connect at all during this week is evidence that they are doing a LOT to combat this attack. People genuinely do not understand how difficult it is to combat this. Like another user pointed out above it's like a roach infestation. Where there's one there's a thousand type of thing. It's not someone hacking into some back network thing. It's a brute force attack that sends a ton of garbage traffic to the targeted servers from a huge network of compromised computers. As I explained above there's ways to protect against it but no way to actually stop it largely due to the fact that even when IP's get blacklisted it doesn't really matter because of the widespread use of dynamic IP addresses. They can switch their own IP's as well but it does not take long for the attacker to find the new IP's and send traffic to those as well. Fighting a DDoS attack is one of the most insane uphill battles possible in the IT realm.


so the ownest is on russain authorities to find the guy and k1ll him right? why not push for that? why not cut all traffic from russia for time being to put pressure on locals to put pressure on goverment to take ddosing seriously? why do they just let them harass us.


this hobby is ♥♥♥♥ anyways enjoy gaming online in 2030 with everyone being AI and full of hackers

I'm getting the sense that you're a child. Either way, no that's not the answer. You can't just cut all traffic from one place because the traffic is not coming from just one place. It's coming from a botnet, which as I already explained, is a network of hundred of thousands, if not millions of compromised PC's all around the world that are being used to send the traffic. Computer viruses aren't just there to make your PC run slow or give you popups man. Billions of people every day use the internet all over the world and the majority of them aren't tech savvy and don't understand how risky downloading random things can be. These viruses can also spread themselves to machines connect on the same network so imagine an office building for example with hundreds of computers connected to the same network. One person in that company gets an email telling them their boss needs help and they just need to download this pdf file and review it. It looks like it came from their boss so they open it and it's actually a disguised .exe file. That entire office building is now infected with that virus. This happens countless times every single day and it's how these botnets form. It's not as cut and dry as you think it is man. It's really not.

Also, I'm not condoning what the attcker is doing but suggesting that someone be killed for taking down a video game for a couple of weeks is absolutely insane.
Originally posted by v1tas:
Originally posted by Vanny_Dorito:

I'm getting the sense that you're a child. Either way, no that's not the answer. You can't just cut all traffic from one place because the traffic is not coming from just one place. It's coming from a botnet, which as I already explained, is a network of hundred of thousands, if not millions of compromised PC's all around the world that are being used to send the traffic. Computer viruses aren't just there to make your PC run slow or give you popups man. Billions of people every day use the internet all over the world and the majority of them aren't tech savvy and don't understand how risky downloading random things can be. These viruses can also spread themselves to machines connect on the same network so imagine an office building for example with hundreds of computers connected to the same network. One person in that company gets an email telling them their boss needs help and they just need to download this pdf file and review it. It looks like it came from their boss so they open it and it's actually a disguised .exe file. That entire office building is now infected with that virus. This happens countless times every single day and it's how these botnets form. It's not as cut and dry as you think it is man. It's really not.

Also, I'm not condoning what the attcker is doing but suggesting that someone be killed for taking down a video game for a couple of weeks is absolutely insane.


hey loser your never going to be a pretty trans women, i bet pull 10x on grinder with makeup than you do, shut the ♥♥♥♥ up and go back to your pathetic pc tech job you loser no one cares you got bullied in school and women you date is just there for your sweet IT money.


every single IT gamer ♥♥♥♥♥♥ like you is a ♥♥♥♥♥ IRL, just know that please


Lol all I did was try to give you some sort of understanding on what is actually going on. I bet you're the same type of dude who shoots down logi helis when they don't pick you up.
Originally posted by v1tas:
nah im huge teamplayer, always trying help new players, always down to logi run. This game was legit saving my mental health with being able to chat with people every day and be social. Im so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pissed off its been down for 2 weeks after i bought a copy for my brother after x mas and we played 1 time for 2 hours and its just been ♥♥♥♥ since ya im pissed some femboy gamer coming at me with all the nerdy IT ♥♥♥♥ defending the millionare devs instead of attacking the criminal that deserves punishment. And yes maybe you have to IP ban all of russia to get the population to care and in turn get that guy in trouble. Russia is a huge country with millions of people the idea they can just ddos and wage war is insane. Go watch 20 days in mariupol ive seen enough dead children in the past 4 years i dont ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ care anymore

I think you need to work more on your mental health before worrying about a video game. Listen, I'm just trying to break down why this is happening for those, like yourself, that don't understand what is actually happening. The personal attacks are also incredibly unnecessary. As you said also Russia is a massive country and it's not like the entire country supports what's going on between them and their neighbor right now. Simply put, blacklisting every single russian IP address would be an incredible waste of resources and would do literally nothing to stop the attacks. Russian people do not deserve to be demonized for the actions of their corrupt government leadership but that's another discussion entirely and this is not the place for that discussion.
Last edited by Vanny_Dorito; Feb 7 @ 4:36pm
v1tas Feb 7 @ 4:41pm 
Originally posted by Vanny_Dorito:
Originally posted by v1tas:
nah im huge teamplayer, always trying help new players, always down to logi run. This game was legit saving my mental health with being able to chat with people every day and be social. Im so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pissed off its been down for 2 weeks after i bought a copy for my brother after x mas and we played 1 time for 2 hours and its just been ♥♥♥♥ since ya im pissed some femboy gamer coming at me with all the nerdy IT ♥♥♥♥ defending the millionare devs instead of attacking the criminal that deserves punishment. And yes maybe you have to IP ban all of russia to get the population to care and in turn get that guy in trouble. Russia is a huge country with millions of people the idea they can just ddos and wage war is insane. Go watch 20 days in mariupol ive seen enough dead children in the past 4 years i dont ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ care anymore

I think you need to work more on your mental health before worrying about a video game. Listen, I'm just trying to break down why this is happening for those, like yourself, that don't understand what is actually happening. The personal attacks are also incredibly unnecessary. As you said also Russia is a massive country and it's not like the entire country supports what's going on between them and their neighbor right now. Simply put, blacklisting every single russian IP address would be an incredible waste of resources and would do literally nothing to stop the attacks. Russian people do not deserve to be demonized for the actions of their corrupt government leadership but that's an entire discussion entirely and this is not the place for that discussion.

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I think you need to work more on your mental health before worrying about a video game. "

not everyone wants to take pills to become numb like you brother sorry im human being with real emotions and probably did more time in therapy than you. Started going at 16 on and off and did 3 years of weekly therapy in my early 20s. Mental health in context of what? What if this is mentally healthy for me and because your feelings hurts that a you problem. What if thinking criminals actually deserve to be held accountable is not mental illness and just good policy.

keep hiding in america instead of facing the reality of the world, i love seeing some 18 year kid in xqcs twitch chat crying because hes getting drafted for myanmars war, but that doesnt effect you does it so why care? what about the 18 year old brit that ate an fpv drone on his first mission?" all those parents with their children dying from missile strikes in mariuopol does nothing for you? You think watching that and not getting upset is mentally healthy?
Last edited by v1tas; Feb 7 @ 4:43pm
Originally posted by v1tas:
Originally posted by Vanny_Dorito:

I think you need to work more on your mental health before worrying about a video game. Listen, I'm just trying to break down why this is happening for those, like yourself, that don't understand what is actually happening. The personal attacks are also incredibly unnecessary. As you said also Russia is a massive country and it's not like the entire country supports what's going on between them and their neighbor right now. Simply put, blacklisting every single russian IP address would be an incredible waste of resources and would do literally nothing to stop the attacks. Russian people do not deserve to be demonized for the actions of their corrupt government leadership but that's an entire discussion entirely and this is not the place for that discussion.

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I think you need to work more on your mental health before worrying about a video game. "

not everyone wants to take pills to become numb like you brother sorry im human being with real emotions and probably did more time in therapy than you. Started going at 16 on and off and did 3 years of weekly therapy in my early 20s. Mental health in context of what? What if this is mentally healthy for me and because your feelings hurts that a you problem. What if thinking criminals actually deserve to be held accountable is not mental illness and just good policy.

keep hiding in america instead of facing the reality of the world, i love seeing some 18 year kid in xqcs twitch chat crying because hes getting drafted for myanmars war, but that doesnt effect you does it so why care? what about the 18 year old brit that ate an fpv drone on his first mission?" all those parents with their children dying from missile strikes in mariuopol does nothing for you? You think watching that and not getting upset is mentally healthy?

I mean this wholeheartedly and genuinely. I truly hope you can get the help you need sooner than later, please get help.
Last edited by Vanny_Dorito; Feb 7 @ 4:46pm
v1tas Feb 7 @ 4:47pm 
Originally posted by Vanny_Dorito:
Originally posted by v1tas:

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I think you need to work more on your mental health before worrying about a video game. "

not everyone wants to take pills to become numb like you brother sorry im human being with real emotions and probably did more time in therapy than you. Started going at 16 on and off and did 3 years of weekly therapy in my early 20s. Mental health in context of what? What if this is mentally healthy for me and because your feelings hurts that a you problem. What if thinking criminals actually deserve to be held accountable is not mental illness and just good policy.

keep hiding in america instead of facing the reality of the world, i love seeing some 18 year kid in xqcs twitch chat crying because hes getting drafted for myanmars war, but that doesnt effect you does it so why care? what about the 18 year old brit that ate an fpv drone on his first mission?" all those parents with their children dying from missile strikes in mariuopol does nothing for you? You think watching that and not getting upset is mentally healthy?

I mean this wholeheartedly and genuinely. I truly hope you can get the help you need sooner than later, please get help.

you have 900 hours + on hatsune miku and you probably think you are women and japanese without even being to read or speak it without google.

stop telling me im mental and need help okay i can turn the tables too.


tell me how do you watch the kids with legs blown of in hospital being cradled by their crying father covered blood and not feel upset? how? and I need therapy?

what if my anger is from being trans would you think that is mental illness too? are you a psychiatrist as well as a professional IT sys admin?
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