Looking at getting it, Arma 2 Vet

[Grillo]

howdy all just looking for some clarity regarding reforger. stopped playing the arma series after 2 didnt get into 3. life responsibilities.

trying to find a clear definitive answer regarding PvE and Mods. one of my favorite mods in Arma 2 was Insurgency (i know insurgency sandstorm). loved it and its military aspect as well as being open world. does Reforger have this mod too? and what exactly is the PvE gameplay like? mission operational orientanted, possible to solo play with others online without having to heavily communicate. just wanna hop on play for an hour and hop off and back in the day orchestrating a squad to commence missions took 1 hour alone never alone the actual gameplay mission.

any of you lovely chaps willing to inform/educate this old geezer would be appreciated. read articles some stating their dislike for it or prefer arma 3 etc etc nothing really coherent and conclusive on reforger itself except get arma 3.

*salute*

[-OrLoK- Слава Україн]

PvE is, in my limited experience mainly up to you how you want to play.

I generally solo but work towards the main objective that others are "doing".

I rarely use voice comms.

But different servers have different rules and some are more strict than others.

There's fun to be had just don't expect the scope of Arma2

[Anarchy]

PVP is kinda trash, tbh.

Not vanilla PVP, because the suppressors aren't super hollywood-esque, but modded PVP is just bush camp with suppressors on literally every single person in the game and it's the most unengaging ♥♥♥♥ ever, but people will cope and be like WELL THIS ONE VIDEO IN UKRAINE but neglect the 20 other examples from either side of literally no troops having supps or even optics.

PVE servers are kinda mid with how they spawn in and handle the AI in my experience.

[SvarogX]

Автор сообщения: Old-Boy BEbop

howdy all just looking for some clarity regarding reforger. stopped playing the arma series after 2 didnt get into 3. life responsibilities.

trying to find a clear definitive answer regarding PvE and Mods. one of my favorite mods in Arma 2 was Insurgency (i know insurgency sandstorm). loved it and its military aspect as well as being open world. does Reforger have this mod too? and what exactly is the PvE gameplay like? mission operational orientanted, possible to solo play with others online without having to heavily communicate. just wanna hop on play for an hour and hop off and back in the day orchestrating a squad to commence missions took 1 hour alone never alone the actual gameplay mission.

any of you lovely chaps willing to inform/educate this old geezer would be appreciated. read articles some stating their dislike for it or prefer arma 3 etc etc nothing really coherent and conclusive on reforger itself except get arma 3.

*salute*

I play PvP only, but I do encounter BOTs in this game and these bots suck.
They usually feel like they have an aimbot shooting right into your head.

Overall, the game sucks. Not because the game itself, but because its kind of a buggy mess and too many modded servers are ruled by power tripping admins.

Avoid if you can.

[Ibuprofen]

Be warned. The game still has netcode issues. On most of its bigger populated servers the PVP experience suffers from hitreg going offline for several seconds during gunfights and other stuff such as vehicles exploding without a reason.

I can confirm that 1 Gb/s internet and high-end computers do not help with this issues since it is caused by the servers collapsing due to bad netcoding.

The game is generous enough to show the server FPS when being too low. And it is always low and often times going critically low which results in loss of data which in turn causes hits to not get registered at all.

If you buy it, buy it knowing that you may never recieve a proper netcode. I joined during EA and hoped they would have this fixed before declaring it 1.0. Yet they havent.

But if you are among the slow pokes that has +200ms reaction time you probably wont notice the issues anyways. Some seem to never notice them.

Reforger is also clearly meant for PVP players. There is not much PVE content at all.

[Grillo]

thanks for the feedback chaps! appreciate it..

reforger sounds like its more PVP orientated and clearly whatever modded server is running is heavily governed by admins who are on a hierarchy ego trip. rather unfortunate, not much of a PvP guy for some reason after the days of quake and doom2 to quake 3, half life, CoD 1 and 2 deathmatching and flanker 2.0 trying to be that competitive and the best, it just really dried up my pvp ambition thereafter.

the glitches and bugs and poor netcode and desyncing sounds like its still an ongoing issue since arma's inception.

will look at arma 3 considering its more mature and has more content where arma 4 is apparently on the horizon this year being announced but doubt anyone other than a high end pc will be able to play it as the arma series is always always plagued with bad optimization.

many thanks lads you're awesome, thanks for the responses.

[-OrLoK- Слава Україн]

Where did you get the info on rogue adims on Ego trips from?

it doesn't represent anything I've ever encountered nor are the alleged netcode issues.

The game runs great on my system which is good but not a beast.

it seems like you've assumed a lot from very little info I hope your post is in good faith and I've misread/misunderstood.

[Anarchy]

Автор сообщения: -OrLoK- Слава Україн

Where did you get the info on rogue adims on Ego trips from?

it doesn't represent anything I've ever encountered nor are the alleged netcode issues.

The game runs great on my system which is good but not a beast.

it seems like you've assumed a lot from very little info I hope your post is in good faith and I've misread/misunderstood.

Egotripping admins are the default for this type of game, lol

[Grillo]

Автор сообщения: -OrLoK- Слава Україн

Where did you get the info on rogue adims on Ego trips from?

it doesn't represent anything I've ever encountered nor are the alleged netcode issues.

The game runs great on my system which is good but not a beast.

it seems like you've assumed a lot from very little info I hope your post is in good faith and I've misread/misunderstood.

maybe my interpretation on the Admins is misinformed and everything else i mentioned? i only reiterated what people have relayed to me and other parts on this message board i been looking at as well as on Reddit??? Admin situation may not be a majority experience but I've seen a few posts regarding this concern. which i find truthful as this was also the case since Arma 2.

in terms of optimization issues clearly isnt an issue in reforger but, Arma 2 had major bugs and optimization issues back in its day and so does 3, what steered me off 3 (mostly life responsibilities) at the time was not even a GTX Titan X could sustain a stable performance back than, but reforger great news that this no longer the case.

but...

the netcode situation is a key takeaway I have experienced this first hand in arma and arma 2 and noticed it on arma 3 through videos in the 20teens, more painfully so when playing on an international server. when the days of DAYZ mod kicked in alot of the arma 2 modded servers moved away and just focused on DAYZ. forcing other arma players such as myself and fellow countrymen migrating to international servers with poor lag and desyncing issues, this netcode has progressed from arma 1 to even standalone dayz and pubg. also the arma community within the country i reside currently is also none existent so the chances of a local server specially pandering to certains mods is looking less likely.

if my post has come off disingenuous or spiteful to you than i certainly apologise as its not its intent, i am only reiterating what people are saying and based on my past experience of the series i find this to be truthful not just only insightful.

but you are def in a better position than me right now as you have reforger and maybe arma 3? you mention the admins of the servers ego's are not exhibited on this present day? do you play on a variety of servers or a discord community group server? also what is your experience based on international servers as you mentioned you are not experiencing de-syncing issues? would love to also know your current system to give a better indication/gauge of your smooth gaming experience?

your insight is certainly helpful for better clarity. I am looking for PvE which you mentioned with no issues, i am not interested in PvP.

thanks mate

[RunsWithScissors]

Автор сообщения: Anarchy

PVP is kinda trash, tbh.

Not vanilla PVP, because the suppressors aren't super hollywood-esque, but modded PVP is just bush camp with suppressors on literally every single person in the game and it's the most unengaging ♥♥♥♥ ever, but people will cope and be like WELL THIS ONE VIDEO IN UKRAINE but neglect the 20 other examples from either side of literally no troops having supps or even optics.

PVE servers are kinda mid with how they spawn in and handle the AI in my experience.

The next update is supposed to lock various items by rank.

Also, suppressors of very unrealistic in this game and in general in the genre of FPS. You can’t do much to silence a full power rifle shot. If they treated them realistically, they would lose much of there allure. A good comp, IMHO, is much more useful than a suppressor IRL. And comps are LOUD!

[RunsWithScissors]

Автор сообщения: Neo92

Автор сообщения: Old-Boy BEbop

howdy all just looking for some clarity regarding reforger. stopped playing the arma series after 2 didnt get into 3. life responsibilities.

trying to find a clear definitive answer regarding PvE and Mods. one of my favorite mods in Arma 2 was Insurgency (i know insurgency sandstorm). loved it and its military aspect as well as being open world. does Reforger have this mod too? and what exactly is the PvE gameplay like? mission operational orientanted, possible to solo play with others online without having to heavily communicate. just wanna hop on play for an hour and hop off and back in the day orchestrating a squad to commence missions took 1 hour alone never alone the actual gameplay mission.

any of you lovely chaps willing to inform/educate this old geezer would be appreciated. read articles some stating their dislike for it or prefer arma 3 etc etc nothing really coherent and conclusive on reforger itself except get arma 3.

*salute*

I play PvP only, but I do encounter BOTs in this game and these bots suck.
They usually feel like they have an aimbot shooting right into your head.

Overall, the game sucks. Not because the game itself, but because its kind of a buggy mess and too many modded servers are ruled by power tripping admins.

Avoid if you can.

Not my experience at all. Yes, I got a couple of ‘gpu hangs’ errors tonight but I loaded right back into the server with my progress saved and no queue.

But to the OP, this forum is like Google Reviews. Folks that have good experiences tend not to review. Folks that have issues, tend to spam their negative stuff to try and ‘hurt’ the company in question.

Example; Dude tonight was complaining about our base building design, wanted more room for a helo pad. He didn’t want to have a discussion and he dug down the transmitter. You know, the most important piece of the base. He was digging down another asset and somebody TK’d him. I would not have TK’d him but I understand. I decided to loot his body. He had 23 GL rounds. He respawned and buffed up and talked about killing who killed him, and when I asked him why he had 23 GL rounds he ♥♥♥♥♥♥ off and shut up.

[Fischar^]

Wtf are you waiting for? I would say buy it if you liked arma 2. It´s very good imo.

[-OrLoK- Слава Україн]

hey, apologies if i came off as combatative.

imho, grab A3 if you havnt played it as its a step up from A2 "enginewise" and in sales is uber cheap.

imho Reforger is a leap forward but is, currently, MP focused but you can have lots of MP fun.

[Grillo]

Автор сообщения: civdiv

Автор сообщения: Neo92

I play PvP only, but I do encounter BOTs in this game and these bots suck.
They usually feel like they have an aimbot shooting right into your head.

Overall, the game sucks. Not because the game itself, but because its kind of a buggy mess and too many modded servers are ruled by power tripping admins.

Avoid if you can.

Not my experience at all. Yes, I got a couple of ‘gpu hangs’ errors tonight but I loaded right back into the server with my progress saved and no queue.

But to the OP, this forum is like Google Reviews. Folks that have good experiences tend not to review. Folks that have issues, tend to spam their negative stuff to try and ‘hurt’ the company in question.

Example; Dude tonight was complaining about our base building design, wanted more room for a helo pad. He didn’t want to have a discussion and he dug down the transmitter. You know, the most important piece of the base. He was digging down another asset and somebody TK’d him. I would not have TK’d him but I understand. I decided to loot his body. He had 23 GL rounds. He respawned and buffed up and talked about killing who killed him, and when I asked him why he had 23 GL rounds he ♥♥♥♥♥♥ off and shut up.

I just watched a bunch of gameplay videos on youtube from the likes of crispy gaming, ironbear and DrSavage... just to get a clear perspective of how it all operates. still pretty much the same arma game just a different coat of paint, issues and bugs and hit registering issues with desyncing issues. didnt really wanna spend nearly 4 hours watching videos to get a clear picture but as you mentioned getting a response on here is like fishing through google reviews. the video content further validated my concerns.

the scenario you just painted from your experience now is exactly why i dont play pvp anymore but its apparent even in pve, mind you there is a lot of positive rapport that is made playing arma online too.. though my intent may be naive but my leisure time for toxicity is just not there anymore hint my initial post regarding pvp and when i was playing on a competitive level, im just to old for that hostility. and than i saw a very painful comment which is still an issue in the arma series made by one of these streamers fans.

"Best way to play arma, just develop a friendship with an admin of servers ask them when they play to give you notification, so you don't need to wait".

my skin immediately crawled and i started reminiscing over my arma days that all the political power trips that plagued the fun factor for certain servers and modded servers.

thanks for your feedback mate, I'll re-address reforger later in the year maybe when its on special or when i have a different mindset to revisit the game to play it, but as of now much as i love this series the cons out weigh the pros for my experience.

cheers...

[Grillo]

Автор сообщения: -OrLoK- Слава Україн

hey, apologies if i came off as combatative.

imho, grab A3 if you havnt played it as its a step up from A2 "enginewise" and in sales is uber cheap.

imho Reforger is a leap forward but is, currently, MP focused but you can have lots of MP fun.

all good mate, didn't find your message combative in the slightest. your posts have been positive and insightful. I'll def take a look at Arma 3.

appreciate it! happy ops mate.

[RunsWithScissors]

Автор сообщения: Old-Boy BEbop

Автор сообщения: civdiv

Not my experience at all. Yes, I got a couple of ‘gpu hangs’ errors tonight but I loaded right back into the server with my progress saved and no queue.

But to the OP, this forum is like Google Reviews. Folks that have good experiences tend not to review. Folks that have issues, tend to spam their negative stuff to try and ‘hurt’ the company in question.

Example; Dude tonight was complaining about our base building design, wanted more room for a helo pad. He didn’t want to have a discussion and he dug down the transmitter. You know, the most important piece of the base. He was digging down another asset and somebody TK’d him. I would not have TK’d him but I understand. I decided to loot his body. He had 23 GL rounds. He respawned and buffed up and talked about killing who killed him, and when I asked him why he had 23 GL rounds he ♥♥♥♥♥♥ off and shut up.

I just watched a bunch of gameplay videos on youtube from the likes of crispy gaming, ironbear and DrSavage... just to get a clear perspective of how it all operates. still pretty much the same arma game just a different coat of paint, issues and bugs and hit registering issues with desyncing issues. didnt really wanna spend nearly 4 hours watching videos to get a clear picture but as you mentioned getting a response on here is like fishing through google reviews. the video content further validated my concerns.

the scenario you just painted from your experience now is exactly why i dont play pvp anymore but its apparent even in pve, mind you there is a lot of positive rapport that is made playing arma online too.. though my intent may be naive but my leisure time for toxicity is just not there anymore hint my initial post regarding pvp and when i was playing on a competitive level, im just to old for that hostility. and than i saw a very painful comment which is still an issue in the arma series made by one of these streamers fans.

"Best way to play arma, just develop a friendship with an admin of servers ask them when they play to give you notification, so you don't need to wait".

my skin immediately crawled and i started reminiscing over my arma days that all the political power trips that plagued the fun factor for certain servers and modded servers.

thanks for your feedback mate, I'll re-address reforger later in the year maybe when its on special or when i have a different mindset to revisit the game to play it, but as of now much as i love this series the cons out weigh the pros for my experience.

cheers...

My experience, 99% in WCS servers, is positive. Players and admin take care of ♥♥♥♥-sticks quickly, players ‘tend’ to play for the objective(s), and though fights do break out over the radio, they are quickly suppressed. My experience has been 99% positive. And the game rocks and is only getting better. The naysayers are the loud minority. The vast majority of players have no reason to whine here as their experiences are positive.

I am active here bc I am a semi-new player with a new system and my goal is to help other new players.