the us sniper rifle is the beat weapon in the game but not why you think.

[chevalierknight]

so i used to only play rus because the weapons are so low recoil but.. the us sniper if you remove the scope is the best weapon in game. it has zero sway even when standing up a nice clean iron sight that is much better then the default US rifle, it will one shot most players 99% of the time and you can fire it so fast it may as well be full auto with little to no recoil and very tight recoil grouping with very tight hipfire too for one shot cqc. you can put the sniper vest on and carry 12 mags and still be under 32k weight and the best for last you can pen the btr from the sides and kill gunner and driver as well as damage copper .

[TiberiuS]

yeah, now you know why the M14 was and still is popular.

[CalicoJack]

But can it surpass Metal Gear?

[dan]

The M14 is nice but the RPG-7 is way more fun to use

[chevalierknight]

Originally posted by dan:

The M14 is nice but the RPG-7 is way more fun to use

i wish we had the option to use anti personal instead of the ap rounds on the rpg

[Roy]

SAW or RPK all the way, just hold LMB and the desync gods will generally rule in your favor.

[John Johnson]

Originally posted by Roy:

SAW or RPK all the way, just hold LMB and the desync gods will generally rule in your favor.

I'm going to second this. I always go with the RPK. I don't typically play on the US side anymore. They usually full of noobs or just suck lol.

[Roy]

Originally posted by 76561199080535830:

Originally posted by Roy:

SAW or RPK all the way, just hold LMB and the desync gods will generally rule in your favor.

I'm going to second this. I always go with the RPK. I don't typically play on the US side anymore. They usually full of noobs or just suck lol.

I do prefer the SAW because it looks and sounds amazing and the high rate of fire sounds devastating, but the RPK seems to be the best gun in the game atm.

I also hate to admit it but i usually pick whichever team has the most PC players.

[TiberiuS]

Interesting how a sniper rifle discussion ends in who has the best full auto gun.

On a sidenote I currently as US take the M16 with scope a lot. It works well as a DMR and you can unattach it within 5s or so to go into close combat with it. It also works if you take the M16 with GL to be more versatile and fill more roles when needed, but in order to aim with the GL you need to unattach the scope, as the GL ladder is on top of the barrell and you can't see it with the optics attached.
That said the M14/M21 probably still is the better choice for this (at least as long as the M16 is the non-full auto version). It has more punch with the 7.65 NATO and the scope can have less zoom than the fixed x4 of the M16., so it is better to use even for low/mid ranges.

The SVD on Soviet side is nice for actual sniping, even though it has a fixed zoom optic, but useless in other roles.

[Tychus]

Originally posted by TiberiuS:

Interesting how a sniper rifle discussion ends in who has the best full auto gun.

On a sidenote I currently as US take the M16 with scope a lot. It works well as a DMR and you can unattach it within 5s or so to go into close combat with it. It also works if you take the M16 with GL to be more versatile and fill more roles when needed, but in order to aim with the GL you need to unattach the scope, as the GL ladder is on top of the barrell and you can't see it with the optics attached.
That said the M14/M21 probably still is the better choice for this (at least as long as the M16 is the non-full auto version). It has more punch with the 7.65 NATO and the scope can have less zoom than the fixed x4 of the M16., so it is better to use even for low/mid ranges.

The SVD on Soviet side is nice for actual sniping, even though it has a fixed zoom optic, but useless in other roles.

Well ACHUALLLY.. OP was talking about the m14 being the "best weapon in the game" so talking about guns other than sniper rifles is relevant.

[Roy]

Originally posted by TiberiuS:

Interesting how a sniper rifle discussion ends in who has the best full auto gun.

On a sidenote I currently as US take the M16 with scope a lot. It works well as a DMR and you can unattach it within 5s or so to go into close combat with it. It also works if you take the M16 with GL to be more versatile and fill more roles when needed, but in order to aim with the GL you need to unattach the scope, as the GL ladder is on top of the barrell and you can't see it with the optics attached.
That said the M14/M21 probably still is the better choice for this (at least as long as the M16 is the non-full auto version). It has more punch with the 7.65 NATO and the scope can have less zoom than the fixed x4 of the M16., so it is better to use even for low/mid ranges.

The SVD on Soviet side is nice for actual sniping, even though it has a fixed zoom optic, but useless in other roles.

And ACTUALLY it's a DMR, not a snipe rifle. OP says he uses it without the scope, so it's more of a semi auto rifle.
Makes a lot of sense that people'd discuss their favorite weapon in a topic named "the us sniper rifle is the beat weapon in the game~".
I don't understand why you find it interesting lol?

[TiberiuS]

Originally posted by Roy:

Originally posted by TiberiuS:

Interesting how a sniper rifle discussion ends in who has the best full auto gun.

On a sidenote I currently as US take the M16 with scope a lot. It works well as a DMR and you can unattach it within 5s or so to go into close combat with it. It also works if you take the M16 with GL to be more versatile and fill more roles when needed, but in order to aim with the GL you need to unattach the scope, as the GL ladder is on top of the barrell and you can't see it with the optics attached.
That said the M14/M21 probably still is the better choice for this (at least as long as the M16 is the non-full auto version). It has more punch with the 7.62 NATO and the scope can have less zoom than the fixed x4 of the M16., so it is better to use even for low/mid ranges.

The SVD on Soviet side is nice for actual sniping, even though it has a fixed zoom optic, but useless in other roles.

And ACTUALLY it's a DMR, not a snipe rifle. OP says he uses it without the scope, so it's more of a semi auto rifle.
Makes a lot of sense that people'd discuss their favorite weapon in a topic named "the us sniper rifle is the beat weapon in the game~".
I don't understand why you find it interesting lol?

Well actually the M21 was a sniper rifle in the Vietnam era, which today (and argubly in Reforger), yes would fill the role of a DMR... and it still does. The M21 was later replaced by the first "real" sniper rifle, the M24 SWS. And the improved DMR evolution of the M14 / M21 would be the M25.

Both weapons already were in service when Reforger is set (1990). While the M25 is more a special forces / Navy Seals DMR and thus less likely to be there, I would love to see a M24 SWS bolt action sniper rifle in the game. Unfortunately that will not happen... 800m shots or so would probably be hard anyway as long as breath control is not a thing and most things aren't even rendered more than 500m out (serverside setting).

[TiberiuS]

Originally posted by 76561199080535830:

Originally posted by Roy:

SAW or RPK all the way, just hold LMB and the desync gods will generally rule in your favor.

I'm going to second this. I always go with the RPK. I don't typically play on the US side anymore. They usually full of noobs or just suck lol.

OK question; I want to know your thoughts. What makes the RPK better than an AK with the extended RPK magazine?
The bipod? The sight picture? Why should I choose the RPK over the lighter (and I think thus more nimble) AK? I don't really think they deal a different amount of damage?

[Roy]

Originally posted by TiberiuS:

Originally posted by 76561199080535830:

I'm going to second this. I always go with the RPK. I don't typically play on the US side anymore. They usually full of noobs or just suck lol.

OK question; I want to know your thoughts. What makes the RPK better than an AK with the extended RPK magazine?
The bipod? The sight picture? Why should I choose the RPK over the lighter (and I think thus more nimble) AK? I don't really think they deal a different amount of damage?

Because when a match lasts longer than 20 minutes, PvP is often desynced to the point where you can be full auto emptying one and a half mag into an enemy at 2m distance while both you and him are strafing and hoping not to die first.
With the RPK your chances of winning a desync battle are a LOT higher.

Also less need to reload, the RPK can be used accurately for long range single shots like a rifle and the bipod lets you rip into enemies or vehicles even at longer ranges.

Plus someone could hide in a treeline or group of bushes and you can just spray them down, with an AK it would require multiple mags and leave you vurnerable.

It also feels like the RPK does more damage than the AK but i'm not sure, in any case the only drawback is that your character will be slower and tired quickly but you can still use it agressively and in CQC.

Oh and you can easily take down helicopters that aren't even super close to you, it's very easy to lead the shots since the recoil isn't bad and you'll soon see black smoke emitting from the chopper indicating you're hitting it.

[TiberiuS]

Originally posted by Roy:

Originally posted by TiberiuS:

OK question; I want to know your thoughts. What makes the RPK better than an AK with the extended RPK magazine?
The bipod? The sight picture? Why should I choose the RPK over the lighter (and I think thus more nimble) AK? I don't really think they deal a different amount of damage?

Because when a match lasts longer than 20 minutes, PvP is often desynced to the point where you can be full auto emptying one and a half mag into an enemy at 2m distance while both you and him are strafing and hoping not to die first.
With the RPK your chances of winning a desync battle are a LOT higher.

Also less need to reload, the RPK can be used accurately for long range single shots like a rifle and the bipod lets you rip into enemies or vehicles even at longer ranges.

Plus someone could hide in a treeline or group of bushes and you can just spray them down, with an AK it would require multiple mags and leave you vurnerable.

It also feels like the RPK does more damage than the AK but i'm not sure, in any case the only drawback is that your character will be slower and tired quickly but you can still use it agressively and in CQC.

Oh and you can easily take down helicopters that aren't even super close to you, it's very easy to lead the shots since the recoil isn't bad and you'll soon see black smoke emitting from the chopper indicating you're hitting it.

OK, but as I said the mags are interchangeable. So that is ot really an advantage or disadvantage of either. Kadence of full auto is also the same with 600 rounds/min.

If you use the bipod I understand it. I hate the DMRs have none.

Soon the AK will get an optic (like the M16), which gives is another plus in the comparison.

overall I think it's pretty balanced.

[John Johnson]

Originally posted by TiberiuS:

Originally posted by 76561199080535830:

I'm going to second this. I always go with the RPK. I don't typically play on the US side anymore. They usually full of noobs or just suck lol.

OK question; I want to know your thoughts. What makes the RPK better than an AK with the extended RPK magazine?
The bipod? The sight picture? Why should I choose the RPK over the lighter (and I think thus more nimble) AK? I don't really think they deal a different amount of damage?

I really can't say what it is. It just feels like the RPK does more damage and I can actually land a shot. That goes with PVP and PVE. Using the AK with the RPK mags isn't the same. I can get kills but just not as reliably as with the RPK. I use the bipod here and there but you can mount any gun anywhere. I'm not sure about the pistols. LOL So i'm not sure how big of a difference it makes. Honestly the sights don't affect me much. I drew a dot in the middle of my screen with a red dry erase marker. It bugs me though. I can center that on somebody with the M16 or any LMG and I might as well be shooting a BB gun. They look at me, laugh and then I die.

Somebody should do an experiment and see just how many shots it takes with each gun to kill somebody. Shooting each portion at varying distances with and without the flak jackets. They could go one step more and do it at various pings too. I really feel like the Soviets are OP,