Hard time understanding people complaining

[Nikiforos]

I have a hard time understanding why people spend their money on EA games and then complain about possible problems bugs, crashes etc. related to the game. I have learned the lesson to take it easy with EA games and would rather wait for Arma 4 than spend money on the experiment demo Reforger. Do you have patience wait do you want to risk it buy Reforger but be prepared and stop complaining.

[DoofMaster4000]

I would say just ignore them and take no notice but for some reason I keep coming back and reading through sad pointless complaints on repeat.
I agree with you though, and most of these people complain the game is "unplayable" with 15 hours of gameplay already clocked up

[DoofMaster4000]

Ironically you will not hear the end of it

[Junkz]

how i look at it, anyone that complains that has a locked profile level 0 is just a troll.. so i ignore them ;)

[Father Lamb]

Messaggio originale di Junkz:

how i look at it, anyone that complains that has a locked profile level 0 is just a troll.. so i ignore them ;)

Mostly 80% who complain lol. You're pretty much right. I got 3 accounts banned from posting on here the past 2 days and they were all level 0's locked and trolling non-stop.

[Father Lamb]

Messaggio originale di ★THEND★:

I don't have a problem proving myself to anyone.
All I know is do something right or don't.
this demo tech was just released to show off the new game engine.
I was disappointed as a fan, I hope arma 4 doesn't come out like this.

It's meant to revive ARMA's earlier Cold War Assault in case you didn't know, But as doing so, Also show the new engine in play as its being worked on. You paid for an EA title which is a stand alone re-make of their 2001 title. It's not meant to be any where near ARMA 4 grade qualities in any way, It's meant as a year long project/revival again.. of their 2001 title its self with new life.

[Father Lamb]

Messaggio originale di ★THEND★:

I am 47 years old. I can't say it's the worst game I've seen since ofp because it's not a game.
This was done to make money early.
the demo of the new game engine is nothing more.

It is what it is. Some paid, Some kept it, Some like it, Some don't.

Its a year long project, Not a demo, It's a stand alone remake of an earlier title as is a testing bed for the new engine as well. More content will come and its essentially going to have the same content Cold War Assault had and nothing more in the end by the end of the year.

It's a bare bones title, hence why it's 30 to begin with and not 59.99

I don't see the issue here.

[HyperJive]

They complain because of poor money management skills. We've been through this so much lately, an EA game, or any game for that matter, that releases and isn't what they want it to be. So they complain. At first, sure, shame on devs. But it happens so much now that it's no longer shame on the devs, it's shame on the people who keep buying it. For me, I like Bohemia, I understood what reforger was, and I bought it, and am keeping it. The disconnects are frustrating, since i bought it day 1 i've probably only been able to play like 40 minutes. But like I said, this isnt my first rodeo on broken games, but I believe in Bohemia, and want to support them. Eventually something fun and unique will come from reforger.

[Father Lamb]

Messaggio originale di ★THEND★:

whether to support bohemia or not.
This is not the case, what are the mistakes here, what are we missing.
one.
Why did they quietly release this demo under the name of the game?
2.
why are there only 2 multiplayer mods?
where are the sp camp coop mission?
3.
Why was no server released without testing?
4.
Only my new game engine was developed between 2013 -2022?
5.
They say 3 big updates will come in 1 year, but where is the roadmap?
6.
Why is it so lacking in content?
7.
If the goal is to generate income for arma4.
Why didn't they say this frankly?

The roadmap is underway as the forum dedicated solely to Reforger WAS ANNOUNCED to be W.I.P. currently on their feedback site. (I do admit, Should have been ready earlier)

The mods? What mods do you need? This isn't ARMA 3 we don't need RP and Gang mods. Other wise, the modes it offers alone are perfect currently. If you're talking guns etc, There are PLENTY right now.

And for the record, This is a new game engine. It's NOT the same entirely that DAY Z IS USING if people would learn a bit. There for, Yeah we WILL see issues. They are NOT familiar with an engine this new to a LARGE crowd.

They did do testing if you check on feedback, It was with a much SMALLER group vs this RELEASE to an OPEN CROWD.

Content is under way and some being introduced each patch. This last one? We finally have backpack and other small bits, That's a plus for me.

[Father Lamb]

Messaggio originale di mushroom jesus:

ARMA reforger has done nothing but reveal the first world privilege of #1: having a computer that can run arma in the first place, #2: the absurdity of people buying EA games and then whining about it because it's the embodiment of incomplete.

They never talk about the technical feats, let alone the small details such as the map design. The graphics alone changes the whole immersion, and thus affects gameplay overall.

Spoilt children. You spend $30 on a game developed by a franchise that has one of the best track records in the gaming industry. You gladly blow $$ on a movie that doesnt even deliver more than 3 hours of replayable entertainment, you gladly blow $$ on stuff like substance consumption, and you gladly blow $$ because you don't know how to effectively spend $$ in the first place.

$30 is chump change.

The fact people spend 30 on something in development and are super angry kills me... its 30... its in development.. its NO BIG DEAL...

And people wonder why a lot of dev's over the years have left into the console world. Folks on PC literally are starting to act like idiots swearing they're so worthy and within these godly tier mindsets that they deserve SO MUCH more than the next guy or they'll rip the devs to shreds... Its toxic any more.

Then people are like "Oh so you're a shill and you love helping liars with your money"

Uh no, I'm an adult and I KNOW WHAT I SPENT and WHERE IT WENT and HOW ITS USED. I do NOT care. I knew what I was getting into i knew what E.A. MEANS..

[Wuggly]

Messaggio originale di Nikiforos:

I have a hard time understanding why people spend their money on EA games and then complain about possible problems bugs, crashes etc. related to the game. I have learned the lesson to take it easy with EA games and would rather wait for Arma 4 than spend money on the experiment demo Reforger. Do you have patience wait do you want to risk it buy Reforger but be prepared and stop complaining.

put it this way i spend $30 knowing i will be playing an EA game and im fine with bugs of gameplay messed up textures etc the problem is. I spent $30 and cant play game bc of server side issues so the majority complaining are just mad because they cant play it

ALSO you giving BI money they work for US the community we dont work for them.

[Father Lamb]

Messaggio originale di Wuggly:

Messaggio originale di Nikiforos:

I have a hard time understanding why people spend their money on EA games and then complain about possible problems bugs, crashes etc. related to the game. I have learned the lesson to take it easy with EA games and would rather wait for Arma 4 than spend money on the experiment demo Reforger. Do you have patience wait do you want to risk it buy Reforger but be prepared and stop complaining.

put it this way i spend $30 knowing i will be playing an EA game and im fine with bugs of gameplay messed up textures etc the problem is. I spent $30 and cant play game bc of server side issues so the majority complaining are just mad because they cant play it

ALSO you giving BI money they work for US the community we dont work for them.

Can't play it. Yeah, That falls into the category of "BUGS"

And I'm pretty sure any developer requires money 9 times out of 10 for THEIR work. You won't walk into a job and handle civilians in any form for free unless you're a charity of sorts.

[FloppyDoppy]

Messaggio originale di DoofMaster4000:

I would say just ignore them and take no notice but for some reason I keep coming back and reading through sad pointless complaints on repeat.
I agree with you though, and most of these people complain the game is "unplayable" with 15 hours of gameplay already clocked up

I dont honestly complain about bugs, I find most of them funny as hell and I know they will be fixed soon or later thats the reason for being early acess, what the majority of people is really complaining and with reason its the unstability of the servers, most of the time you cant play for more than 5 minutes, and yes I think people must complain because if its something wrong and we paid its not for this, thats not aceptable, have nothing to do with being early acess or servers full cause most of them are empty. People didnt really experienced the game to be able to rate or to enjoy properly because they keep getting disconects and its very hard to find a server where you can play for more than 40 minutes without getting crashes.

[Father Lamb]

Messaggio originale di FloppyDoppy:

Messaggio originale di DoofMaster4000:

I would say just ignore them and take no notice but for some reason I keep coming back and reading through sad pointless complaints on repeat.
I agree with you though, and most of these people complain the game is "unplayable" with 15 hours of gameplay already clocked up

I dont honestly complain about bugs, I find most of them funny as hell and I know they will be fixed soon or later thats the reason for being early acess, what the majority of people is really complaining and with reason its the unstability of the servers, most of the time you cant play for more than 5 minutes, and yes I think people must complain because if its something wrong and we paid its not for this, thats not aceptable, have nothing to do with being early acess most of people didnt really experienced the game to be able to rate or to enjoy because they keep getting disconects and its very hard to find a server where you can play for more than 40 minutes without getting crashes.

From steam themselves:

Steam Early Access enables you to sell your game on Steam while it is still being developed, and provide context to customers that a product should be considered "unfinished." Early Access is a place for games that are in a playable alpha or beta state, are worth the current value of the playable build, and that you plan to continue to develop for release.

Releasing a game in Early Access helps set context for prospective customers and provides them with information about your plans and goals before a "final" release.


Note for ARMA REFORGER:

• It's playable. It has SP, And other elements. Multiplayer WORKS and is PLAYABLE to an extent with.. BUGS (An early access thing)


It IS being updated and currently developed and worked out with feedback on their feedback site and current bugs marked, "Open, Closed, High Priority" and more. Go look.

This is entirely acceptable.

[Froggyluv]

As a SP , mission and mod maker only -i just bought it to see if it had enough ingredients to look like the base program of something fresh, new and better -and it passed that test outright. Arma 3 was also promised as a Full game sequel outright -so comparing their EA content makes little sense.

I remember when we were screaming at Devs to please, please add more vehicle interiors and they thought it was a waste -after seeing the new direction, full immersive APC interior with get in/get out animations -i can honestly say im excited for every and any single new content release (as well as for any new Island )

[Father Lamb]

Messaggio originale di Froggyluv:

As a SP , mission and mod maker only -i just bought it to see if it had enough ingredients to look like the base program of something fresh, new and better -and it passed that test outright. Arma 3 was also promised as a Full game sequel outright -so comparing their EA content makes little sense.

I remember when we were screaming at Devs to please, please add more vehicle interiors and they thought it was a waste -after seeing the new direction, full immersive APC interior with get in/get out animations -i can honestly say im excited for every and any single new content release (as well as for any new Island )

Oh they nailed it with that APC interior. It's going the right direction for sure.

The fact people are hating the direction is beyond me. Must we remind them vaulting in arma 3 was the same motions mimicking a crab walk just to get over a fence, Guns pushing through walls, Stiff body motions, The dreaded 1ft step that kills you, Vehicles with a tendency to fly off into space with no physics, I can go on and on. Yet people hate this new engine and say its too CoD like? WHAT?