Good graphics yes, like Arma 3 no

[Gballer]

This game was made for feedback so here is my feedback.

-Features such as the scroll wheel option to change weapons/get into and change seats in vehicles are gone.
-Can't do advanced movements anymore
-Feels to much like DayZ, Squad, and Tarkov instead of an Arma game
-Don't really like the Editor so far, I feel like that it needs to go back to the Eden Editor and have the "Game Master" Aka Zeus be its own little game mode if they want to make it multiplayer
-Not a fan of the DayZ 3rd person camera
-Whats with C keybind being some random point motion instead of Bipod?

Overall, if this is the path Bohemia is taking for Arma 4 I feel it will be a big disappointment as they are setting up Battlefield Game modes to appeal to Console community and really making the game simpler than what it should be. I like the graphics, but I would much rather have the game play that Arma 3 offers over having better graphics. I hope that BI isn't going to screw us over by appealing to console players. Let there be patience though as BI is using this as Feedback and we must give them it or they won't change anything.

[JoeNoBuddy]

There is advanced movements with walking/running speed and crouch as well. But that is it I think!

[PyroNage]

You can still do advanced movement. Ctrl + q,e to smooth lean which was not present in arma 3, and ctrl + scroll to smooth between standing a crouching. Overall big improvement

[Gballer]

Originally posted by PyroNage:

You can still do advanced movement. Ctrl + q,e to smooth lean which was not present in arma 3, and ctrl + scroll to smooth between standing a crouching. Overall big improvement

Ctrl+W,A,S,D all provided different stances that are no longer in the game. These all provided better angles and allowed you to show less of the characters body. Hopefully they are added back in and advanced movements such as climbing over walls are left in the game as well. I feel like certain features have been removed because they are to complicated to implement on controllers.

[Aqueox]

I agree, especially on your latter 4 points. They NEED addressed or the game, and Arma 4 if it sticks, will feel very cheap and "consoleized".

[Gballer]

Originally posted by Aqueox:

I agree, especially on your latter 4 points. They NEED addressed or the game, and Arma 4 if it sticks, will feel very cheap and "consoleized".

100% agree, hopefully the Loyal PC users of the Arma series get addressed in the coming days because this could go down a bad road quick for Bohemia.

[Aqueox]

Originally posted by Gballer:

Originally posted by Aqueox:

I agree, especially on your latter 4 points. They NEED addressed or the game, and Arma 4 if it sticks, will feel very cheap and "consoleized".

100% agree, hopefully the Loyal PC users of the Arma series get addressed in the coming days because this could go down a bad road quick for Bohemia.

Yup, slight amendment to my statement though. I have about 1500hrs in Arma 3, and 95% of that has been Zeusing by myself. I'm not even joking. The Zeus UI as is just feels bleh, man. It should be just as good as Arma 3's.

However, we all need to keep in mind that Reforger is literally Day Zero release right now. Remember Arma 3's alpha? I do. And look how much better that game got in a year, then two, then five, then 8. That was with an old as ♥♥♥♥ engine which was a real ♥♥♥♥♥ to code for. This one? They've deliberately made it easier for people to mess with AND have given modders basically the same tools BI uses for developing the game.

Which makes me wonder... Who will release a T-72 first? BI or modders?

[Gballer]

Originally posted by Aqueox:

Originally posted by Gballer:

100% agree, hopefully the Loyal PC users of the Arma series get addressed in the coming days because this could go down a bad road quick for Bohemia.

Yup, slight amendment to my statement though. I have about 1500hrs in Arma 3, and 95% of that has been Zeusing by myself. I'm not even joking. The Zeus UI as is just feels bleh, man. It should be just as good as Arma 3's.

However, we all need to keep in mind that Reforger is literally Day Zero release right now. Remember Arma 3's alpha? I do. And look how much better that game got in a year, then two, then five, then 8. That was with an old as ♥♥♥♥ engine which was a real ♥♥♥♥♥ to code for. This one? They've deliberately made it easier for people to mess with AND have given modders basically the same tools BI uses for developing the game.

Which makes me wonder... Who will release a T-72 first? BI or modders?

Modders are gonna be way ahead of BI I feel like lol

[Aqueox]

Originally posted by Gballer:

Originally posted by Aqueox:

Yup, slight amendment to my statement though. I have about 1500hrs in Arma 3, and 95% of that has been Zeusing by myself. I'm not even joking. The Zeus UI as is just feels bleh, man. It should be just as good as Arma 3's.

However, we all need to keep in mind that Reforger is literally Day Zero release right now. Remember Arma 3's alpha? I do. And look how much better that game got in a year, then two, then five, then 8. That was with an old as ♥♥♥♥ engine which was a real ♥♥♥♥♥ to code for. This one? They've deliberately made it easier for people to mess with AND have given modders basically the same tools BI uses for developing the game.

Which makes me wonder... Who will release a T-72 first? BI or modders?

Modders are gonna be way ahead of BI I feel like lol

lol, go check the Arma discord. Modders are already diving into this thing.

From the way it sounds, everything is easier and quicker thanks to the scripting language changes and the benefits of a modern engine. Don't forget some modders had early access to Arma 3. I think CUP guys and ALiVE did. So...

The future is exciting. Reforger is going to be 100% community driven, I think.

[Pierce]

If they dont add advanced movement here thats alright. But it better be in Arma 4 otherwise thats a deal breaker. Unless modders come to the save which the might

[PapaOurs009]

Originally posted by Pierce:

If they dont add advanced movement here thats alright. But it better be in Arma 4 otherwise thats a deal breaker. Unless modders come to the save which the might

But isn't it pathetic that modders have to correct something so basic?

[Explicable]

Originally posted by Gballer:

This game was made for feedback so here is my feedback.

-Features such as the scroll wheel option to change weapons/get into and change seats in vehicles are gone.
-Can't do advanced movements anymore
-Feels to much like DayZ, Squad, and Tarkov instead of an Arma game
-Don't really like the Editor so far, I feel like that it needs to go back to the Eden Editor and have the "Game Master" Aka Zeus be its own little game mode if they want to make it multiplayer
-Not a fan of the DayZ 3rd person camera
-Whats with C keybind being some random point motion instead of Bipod?

Overall, if this is the path Bohemia is taking for Arma 4 I feel it will be a big disappointment as they are setting up Battlefield Game modes to appeal to Console community and really making the game simpler than what it should be. I like the graphics, but I would much rather have the game play that Arma 3 offers over having better graphics. I hope that BI isn't going to screw us over by appealing to console players. Let there be patience though as BI is using this as Feedback and we must give them it or they won't change anything.

Scroll wheel menu was a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joke and im so glad its gone. It was not immersive at all and felt like ♥♥♥♥ to use.

[Barry Cabbage]

Originally posted by Gballer:

Originally posted by PyroNage:

You can still do advanced movement. Ctrl + q,e to smooth lean which was not present in arma 3, and ctrl + scroll to smooth between standing a crouching. Overall big improvement

Ctrl+W,A,S,D all provided different stances that are no longer in the game. These all provided better angles and allowed you to show less of the characters body. Hopefully they are added back in and advanced movements such as climbing over walls are left in the game as well. I feel like certain features have been removed because they are to complicated to implement on controllers.

You have more control over your character in this than in Arma 3

Crtl + Q or E will give you fine control over your lean.

Crtl + Scrolling will give you fine control over your height.

Your stance will also not be reset while moving, you will stay at that height and that lean as you walk.

[macdaddymario]

Originally posted by Barry Cabbage:

Originally posted by Gballer:

Ctrl+W,A,S,D all provided different stances that are no longer in the game. These all provided better angles and allowed you to show less of the characters body. Hopefully they are added back in and advanced movements such as climbing over walls are left in the game as well. I feel like certain features have been removed because they are to complicated to implement on controllers.

You have more control over your character in this than in Arma 3

Crtl + Q or E will give you fine control over your lean.

Crtl + Scrolling will give you fine control over your height.

Your stance will also not be reset while moving, you will stay at that height and that lean as you walk.

Shhhh.. That doesn't fit the narrative of "streamlined for consoles!!"

[Barry Cabbage]

Originally posted by macdaddymario:

Originally posted by Barry Cabbage:

You have more control over your character in this than in Arma 3

Crtl + Q or E will give you fine control over your lean.

Crtl + Scrolling will give you fine control over your height.

Your stance will also not be reset while moving, you will stay at that height and that lean as you walk.

Shhhh.. That doesn't fit the narrative of "streamlined for consoles!!"

Honestly, there are valid arguments against Reforger! but people seem to wanna stick to imagined ♥♥♥♥ or stuff they assume is wrong without ever testing it.

[Cryptic]

The sound effects in this game man are fantastic too but it just needs a lot more