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Urgh, I need help maxing relationships! 👨🏻‍❤️‍💋‍
I played through again trying to get the 7 max relationships achievement and failed miserably! I barely managed to upgrade 3 to max, Muktuk, Luna and Mint and I got a few others most of the way but it takes a whole day just to raise someone 3 levels! I asked earlier if gifting pure mana raised relationship level faster than an item they liked such as giving Muktuk a squid, but I didn't get an answer does anyone know if giving mana raises it more or the same as a specific item they like? Because that's the only thing I can think of that I could do differently.
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StormRangerX Oct 30, 2022 @ 5:56pm 
From what I've been able to tell, the rarity of the item affects how much they gain. Giving muktuk a common fish won't raise his relation by as much as a rarer fish ingredient, but it seems that overall pure mana is the best bang for your buck as everyone likes it and its rare.
Violent Rainbow Oct 30, 2022 @ 6:15pm 
Originally posted by StormRangerX:
From what I've been able to tell, the rarity of the item affects how much they gain. Giving muktuk a common fish won't raise his relation by as much as a rarer fish ingredient, but it seems that overall pure mana is the best bang for your buck as everyone likes it and its rare.

Oh my god thankyou! I was giving him just a little squid every time no wonder he hates me ;_; I'm gonna play through again and try to give better presents.
Xedrek(Samix) Oct 30, 2022 @ 8:30pm 
I don't have any hard numbers on it, but I've been giving everyone PureMana on the 4th section of the game. I've gotten almost everyone to around 7-8 and gotten two of them to 10 so far. Everyone seems to also give the 2 star reaction to PureMana, so I'd guess that it's a universally loved gift.
Vengyr Oct 31, 2022 @ 12:35am 
I've made a thread on it, copy-pasting:

Always give some gifts if you can, ideally pure mana - it's not that good for potions anyway. You can upgrade your rank once per day during your morning trip, and then sell potions twice, so you should do that. This will get you 27 (?) rank increases during the first three weeks, where you should play "normally" and focus on selling stuff. For the last 18 days, you'll need to use 63 rank ups.

Once you unlock the slimes, abuse the hell out of them. You can use slimes to dupe your pure mana. The best one I had was mana conflagration. 3 mana conflagrations (drop 1, feed 2) -> 7 mana conflagrations. And you can have 5 slimes. Yeah, it's kinda broken.

Since then, gift mana conflagrations (or other best pure mana you have) all the time. At day 41, switch to pure mana from the last zone. It seems to be better.

Somewhere at day 35 I had 200+k gold, so I've stopped selling potions altogether and just spent all the time socializing. Remember that you'll need to brew 2 potions for rank 10, so prepare a variety of superior potions in advance. If you are short on money, I think you should be able to dump potions into the autoseller and not waste any time slots with that, but I've never tried that.
Vengyr Oct 31, 2022 @ 12:40am 
To add some on that:

Gifting pure mana from the moment you unlock slimes is good enough, but ideally you should gift something every day prior to that.

Never hang out, wastes time. Just bribe with gifts non-stop.
Arani Oct 31, 2022 @ 4:14am 
My first playthrough I also just gave like the cheapest ingredients to each, of the type they liked. I barely got 2 relationships maxed. On my second one I started paying attention to the icon colors of each ingredient. You'll notice the cheapest low magimin components are brown, then better ones are silver, then there's gold. When I started giving gold ingredients, typically 1-2 gifts would already give me the next rank up.

I suspect this system is not unlike the gardening slimes. Give them an ingredient of the type and "rank" they like, you get a bonus, but it also counts the total magimin so pure mana would likely work just as well. Since the game has plenty of each ingredient type with magimin distribution that makes little sense for potions, and also getting high ranks early gives you discounts and better cards for your deck, in the long term it's more profitable to give them valuable ingredients that you don't typically use.
Violent Rainbow Oct 31, 2022 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by Vengyr:
To add some on that:

Gifting pure mana from the moment you unlock slimes is good enough, but ideally you should gift something every day prior to that.

Never hang out, wastes time. Just bribe with gifts non-stop.

Thanks, I had wondered whether that was even worth doing.
kagmole Oct 31, 2022 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by Vengyr:
...Never hang out, wastes time. Just bribe with gifts non-stop.
From cycle 3/4 you can only send stuff from Vendi and use some time to hang out, if you have no "rank up" to do (as said in your first post).
And hanging out is nice for the little stories. :)
Vengyr Oct 31, 2022 @ 2:49pm 
Originally posted by kagmole:
Originally posted by Vengyr:
...Never hang out, wastes time. Just bribe with gifts non-stop.
From cycle 3/4 you can only send stuff from Vendi and use some time to hang out, if you have no "rank up" to do (as said in your first post).
And hanging out is nice for the little stories. :)
If you're gifting all the time, you should always have someone to rank up. It shouldn't take more than 2-3 pure mana to unlock the rank up even at the high ranks, something like 15-20 days of pure mana gifting should unlock all the rank ups.

You can always hang out when you've done maxing all the relationships, as there's pretty much nothing else to do at that point. Possibly even make a save at day 49 to check out all the hang out content.
Violent Rainbow Oct 31, 2022 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by Vengyr:
Originally posted by kagmole:
From cycle 3/4 you can only send stuff from Vendi and use some time to hang out, if you have no "rank up" to do (as said in your first post).
And hanging out is nice for the little stories. :)
If you're gifting all the time, you should always have someone to rank up. It shouldn't take more than 2-3 pure mana to unlock the rank up even at the high ranks, something like 15-20 days of pure mana gifting should unlock all the rank ups.

You can always hang out when you've done maxing all the relationships, as there's pretty much nothing else to do at that point. Possibly even make a save at day 49 to check out all the hang out content.

But if you're juggling 10 people even that's gonna be hard to manage. I'm gifting mana right now that's worth I think 160 something magimins at the late levels and it takes two of those to level up so two days per person per level. Also where are people getting all these pure mana from before they get enough slime plants to cultivate them? They're expensive to buy and quinn usually only stocks one of each per day.
Last edited by Violent Rainbow; Oct 31, 2022 @ 2:56pm
Vengyr Oct 31, 2022 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by Violent Rainbow:
Originally posted by Vengyr:
If you're gifting all the time, you should always have someone to rank up. It shouldn't take more than 2-3 pure mana to unlock the rank up even at the high ranks, something like 15-20 days of pure mana gifting should unlock all the rank ups.

You can always hang out when you've done maxing all the relationships, as there's pretty much nothing else to do at that point. Possibly even make a save at day 49 to check out all the hang out content.

But if you're juggling 10 people even that's gonna be hard to manage. I'm gifting mana right now that's worth I think 160 something magimins at the late levels and it takes two of those to level up so two days per person per level. Also where are people getting all these pure mana from before they get enough slime plants to cultivate them? They're expensive to buy and quinn usually only stocks one of each per day.
I don't know, I've got all the slimes around day 30 or so. 5 slimes allow you to turn 15 Mana Conflagrations into 35 per day (drop 1, feed 2 -> harvest 7). So it nets you 20 daily, and you need 10 daily.

Prior to that, you can use something cheap. I didn't start with "optimized mindset" and just gifted whenever I felt like it, and still managed to max them all, so optimizing your gifts from day 1 not required. Just gift "something".

P.S. I think zone is more important than Magimins. Mana Conflagration has more magimins than the last zone Pure Mana, but these seemed to be more efficient, so I've switched to them.
Last edited by Vengyr; Oct 31, 2022 @ 3:02pm
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Date Posted: Oct 30, 2022 @ 5:01pm
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