Bae ending

[powpowfishbones]

Anyone else disappointed about the way they handled the bae ending? I had high hope that all the avoiding Chloe in promos was because they were gonna do some fun surprise like give her a special date scene if you kept her alive. I completely understand they both have traumas from everything that happened in Arcadia Bay, but idk it just doesn't feel like they respected both endings with this. I've only played chapter 1 and I enjoyed it fine, but it just doesn't feel the same. Thoughts and feelings about what we've seen so far?

[polymath]

That was certainly disappointing. Sure, it could as well be a cost-saving measure to have one play the same game regardless of previous choices. But still. Having them break up and that's it is a very bad idea for multiple reasons. So, for now I expect them to have an option to get back together at a later episode.
I am personally now waiting to find that out. Pricefield is the main reason I was waiting for this game, that murder stuff is secondary. So, if Pricefield doesn't happen, the game goes from "play asap" to "play at some point" category.

[Rambley The Raccoon]

Who knows what happens in the later episodes. Maybe in an alter reality Max and Chloe are dating?

[powpowfishbones]

Originally posted by polymath:

Pricefield is the main reason I was waiting for this game, that murder stuff is secondary.

Same here. I like the whole series so I would've played regardless, but I likely wouldn't have bought ultimate if I knew this, and I'm sure others think the same.

[powpowfishbones]

Originally posted by Rambley The Raccoon:

Who knows what happens in the later episodes. Maybe in an alter reality Max and Chloe are dating?

That's what I've been thinking as well. There's still three episodes coming with full release, things could turn around, but with how it is so far it just seems unlikely. If that doesn't end up being the case I'll pretend they're happy together in some other reality haha.

[Jurassicjoey]

sorry im a bit confused did they do with the chole lives or die edning from the 1st game eveorne seem to be saying they didnt respect the choise and force a ending on us i cant aford the game for a while and trying to read up but im un clear on what ending they went with

[powpowfishbones]

Originally posted by Jurassicjoey:

sorry im a bit confused did they do with the chole lives or die edning from the 1st game eveorne seem to be saying they didnt respect the choise and force a ending on us i cant aford the game for a while and trying to read up but im un clear on what ending they went with

They're trying to respect both endings, but very much are leaning toward sacrificing Chloe and saving Arcadia Bay. I haven't played through the sacrifice Chloe side of Double Exposure yet, so I can't touch on that, but I did sacrifice Arcadia Bay. If you save Chloe, they end up breaking up and (at least as of episode 1) there's no communication from her after they've broken up.

[Savager]

I was kinda bummed too its a missed opportunity to not include her bcs she is fan favorite BUT if you look at achievements there is one called "Bay or Bae" and its icon of someone who does not look like Max or how Chloe looked back in the day so its probably adult Chloe and she might show up at the end. It might also just be Safi but i dont think it looks like her.

[maniacal<1>]

Originally posted by littleststardust:

Originally posted by Jurassicjoey:

sorry im a bit confused did they do with the chole lives or die edning from the 1st game eveorne seem to be saying they didnt respect the choise and force a ending on us i cant aford the game for a while and trying to read up but im un clear on what ending they went with

They're trying to respect both endings, but very much are leaning toward sacrificing Chloe and saving Arcadia Bay. I haven't played through the sacrifice Chloe side of Double Exposure yet, so I can't touch on that, but I did sacrifice Arcadia Bay. If you save Chloe, they end up breaking up and (at least as of episode 1) there's no communication from her after they've broken up.

I don't really want to go into Spoiler territory, but they most-definitely did NOT respect both endings. The absolute disservice done to Bae ending players is insane, as is their lack of understand on Chloe as a character. And it's not even just that, they go to great lengths to ruin OTHER instances of Pricefield that DN implemented. Remember that photo from LiS2, showing Chloe with blue-green hair and Max all hugged up and smiling? Yeah, it's apparently a bad memory for Max because what happened after.

DeckNine is literally ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on anyone who chose to sacrifice Arcadia Bay.

[P1nkLem0n4d3]

It was for the sake of balance. Would of been worse otherwise for other fans. No one would of been happy. Even the stat is already 59% to 41%, which is almost split.

[powpowfishbones]

Originally posted by P1nkLem0n4d3:

It was for the sake of balance. Would of been worse otherwise for other fans. No one would of been happy. Even the stat is already 59% to 41%, which is almost split.

Respectfully, I disagree. Sure, the bay players are happy, but (most) bae players aren't. Instead of forcing Chloe and Max apart, they could've written that Chloe was on some kind of trip and would be returning after so much time, and that's why we don't see her. Just completely writing her off is a disservice to bae players, in my opinion. Nothing would've had to change for bay players, and bae players would see that they're at least together in the end.

[marcgoeslive]

Originally posted by littleststardust:

Originally posted by P1nkLem0n4d3:

It was for the sake of balance. Would of been worse otherwise for other fans. No one would of been happy. Even the stat is already 59% to 41%, which is almost split.

Respectfully, I disagree. Sure, the bay players are happy, but (most) bae players aren't. Instead of forcing Chloe and Max apart, they could've written that Chloe was on some kind of trip and would be returning after so much time, and that's why we don't see her. Just completely writing her off is a disservice to bae players, in my opinion. Nothing would've had to change for bay players, and bae players would see that they're at least together in the end.

True, in my view, the solution they chose was the worst possible. It feels like they rushed to change parts of the game just to meet the release date.

[Clementine]

And why did Chloe become so much Victoria Chase's best friend? From the text, it seems that they are friends. They necessarily wanted to get rid of Chloe for a person who is poorly written. I completely do not have any connection with Safi. And I don't give a damn what happened to her. They should develop the friendship more and deepen the relationship between them. They also push hard on the lesbian plot. Even though I am not interested they are pushing hard in this direction. It was the same with Dragon Age 2 and the homosexual theme, which was forcefully pushed. In the first part of the game was Warren here you can choose only a woman. The game personally I do not cross out. Because it has good stuff. But after completing only two of the chapters of the five. There is no complete picture yet. One should wait for the whole thing. I hope that at least there will be an opportunity to be a neutral character without a relationship.

[marcgoeslive]

I mean, they could have taken it a step further and offered the option to message Chloe if you chose the Bae ending, without having a major impact on the story or upsetting the community. I don’t understand why they didn’t even consider that possibility.

And in the final chapter, they could have created two different outcomes—one with Chloe, and one without. There are so many missed opportunities in this game.

Honestly, you could replace Max with a random character, like in True Colors, and the effect would have been the same. But, of course, it's all about the money.

[powpowfishbones]

Originally posted by 3njoy1:

Honestly, you could replace Max with a random character, like in True Colors, and the effect would have been the same. But, of course, it's all about the money.

That's the conclusion I've come to after thinking about it. This is just a cash grab using Max's name because that would make them more money, and her story became an afterthought. Or, at least that's how it feels. It was made for some other character and they went "stop the presses! We aren't making enough money, we should use Max!"

[powpowfishbones]

Originally posted by Clementine:

And why did Chloe become so much Victoria Chase's best friend? From the text, it seems that they are friends. They necessarily wanted to get rid of Chloe for a person who is poorly written. I completely do not have any connection with Safi. And I don't give a damn what happened to her. They should develop the friendship more and deepen the relationship between them. They also push hard on the lesbian plot. Even though I am not interested they are pushing hard in this direction. It was the same with Dragon Age 2 and the homosexual theme, which was forcefully pushed. In the first part of the game was Warren here you can choose only a woman.

It seems like they have a male love interest as well, but it may not be true. I don't mind the pushing gay stuff personally, seeing as you have the option to stay friends. I agree with Safi, I knew next to nothing about her, and we are expected to care so much about her death? As for Victoria, I like to think she had time to think after the storm. The entire town was destroyed, very few survived, and she realized that she needed to be better or something of the like. Maybe she apologized to Max and Chloe and they forgave her, deciding to become friends. It would make sense if very few people survived and they wanted to attempt to stick together to keep the memory of Arcadia and everyone they lost alive.