im surprised square let this game come out despite the dont nod dev drama…

[IkoN Clan Les legi 102 community]

people seem to really love these characters…. yet when the drama occurred when before the storm occurred back when the voice acting strike…. happened changing younger Chloe's actress instead of ashley burch fans got mad…. the series is a interesting one given the way we tell stories, i dont think if you stare at a piece of art for years & decide this is cool i want to be in this world making you feel too invested compared to games as a story format, games are supposed to make you feel escape create stories where you feel how the character feels putting you in their shoes.

i think max & chloe are interesting characters i preferred kate as a character given her own issues & struggling with her own depression.

the first game had different choices, like save your friend or Saving Kate or Warning Victoria, allowing the player to change the story.

People can often argue that the player’s choices have very little impact because the story concludes the same way and why should you really care about most of the characters. Even though Life is Strange’s ending is not dependent on the choices of the player, it does not mean that their choices should be seen as insignificant. Playing through multiple chapters and getting to know the characters brings a sense of life, especially when you can or dont relate to any of them unless you think max is the hero.

The first game taking place in a school was hard to create interest given school is a hard time for us given our age group, with double exposure flipping that on its head and making max go to another community like town, is on paper a interesting idea but think dont nod & deck nine should add more depth to their stories.

then we find out double exposure is real & leaks reveal that the devs say max broke up with chloe… adding confusion. causing fan frustration.🤔

i dont really think this world is as interesting compared to other adventure games ie wolf among us & walking dead, where the characters depend on your choices, surviving finding food & the stress of the apocalypse. max is cool but i dont go out of my way to discuss why max is a likable character compared to other characters lee everett, bigby or even well written ones john marston. her using time travel or butterfly effects to change a outcome of her choice is a cool idea but wheres the impact.👍🏻

having new characters instead of other returning characters like joyce or david etc or the survivors of arcadia bay dont have a resounding affect, when you add too many new characters, it doesn't have a lasting affect as a game goes.

This is also sorta the problem with completely separate studios doing game sequels, it gives such a target on the back of the devs if it doesn’t pan out and there’s a large enough fandom from the original release. I dunno, this level of hate is never ok but pretty much all the blame has been leveled at Deck Nine and there’s not exactly anywhere for it to go. It’s never ok to get mad at a game developer unless things go south. Devs should act accordingly and share their opinions if you design a game one way or if it had memory value & was interesting bring these stories to a format in game design, yet they dont & just say it doesn't sell well instead of ever taking responsibility for the game they make. i dont know how much sales these games have made over the years. i think don’t-nod should've had more quality or freedom over square as a publisher or been a consultant for the story.

Dont nod is a very talented studio putting out games like vampyre or remember me, their craft of engaging & creating stories that people want more of is something more game studios should do as well.

i think the first life is strange had some interesting ideas but overall it felt like a story about high school drama & bullying with each character trying to be a game where in that age we find our selves given our experiences & the pressures of popularity or falling into groups, they have the pretty one, the school bully, the awkward friend, the girl who has a crush on you & other norms or traits from these characters. weve all been there dealing with turmoil of creating & losing friendships & how it connects us or the bonds we create growing up & our memories.
max is also very shy something that people seem to cling to being the shy girl that gets nervous around others.

the game is full of invisible walls, a failed attempt to hide how exploration it's ♥♥♥♥, the choices have no impact on the plot, and the romances are forced, what they did to Chloe and Max by mischaracterizing them is just part of the problem.

This game is a way to make easy money yet it still seems to think well people liked max so lets bring her back? but i think deck nine is at least trying to recover from these issues.

Also there's another reason why Chloe was excluded. At least two former employees came forth about what they knew about the game. One of them had proof they worked at Deck Nine, the other didn't so take it with a grain of salt.

Apparently Square Enix and Deck Nine had beef with the woman who voiced Chloe in the first game, Ashley Burch. There was a VA strike happening during the production of LiS: Before the Storm, a prequel starring Chloe. So instead of waiting for the strike to end, they recast Chloe with a scab to get things over quickly. They then hired Ashley as a consultant as a courtesy but asked her not to say anything negative about the game, which she ended up doing anyway. Ever since then some people at Square and Deck Nine have been pissed at Ashley and decided to not use the character ever again.

looking at the store i was mildly interested until I found the Chloe leaks or summary felt off through leaks and then felt like the devs pushed for a fall window & didnt even cancel it. i dont think the life is strange games are bad per say, i know the community is very mixed on where the series should go along with its fanbase being very cold to each other.

Usually i would think square being the publisher they would axe it weve seen how they dislike western games like hitman or deus ex etc, but there's some huge drama around these games. The people behind this game (Deck Nine) are not the original creators of LiS (Don't Nod).

This was originally supposed to be an anthology series, but Deck Nine decided to make a direct sequel of the first game as the fourth game. The original game had two massively different endings, but Deck Nine decided to streamline everything to make both endings lead to the same story, and screwing up the most popular ending in the process.

Now almost all of the most vocal part of the fandom is furious and are purposefully seeking every bit of leaks to find out what happens to decide if they want to spend money on this.

i am curious where they will go with this again even tho they've had problems behind closed doors or struggles within the dev team i hope they can bounce back, & create a game that everyone will enjoy, even tho you cant please everyone.

share your thoughts on this🤔 i haven't finished the game so i cant say where the story goes or if it was done well but hope they have some middle ground, these characters could have more depth within their roles at times. The people making the products want customers to be obsessed because it leads to more money, but the otherside of it is that when the product doesn't satisfy the customers then those customers will act out in more extreme ways.

clementine from twd is a well made character people want to protect her & love her personality but i think max could have better skills or personality as a character goes. im conflicted on the series as a whole.

it will be interesting to see how the games does with its core audience & fanbase.

[Fast Pooper]

Yeah they don’t care. Sounds like nonsense drama.

[IkoN Clan Les legi 102 community]

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Originally posted by Fast Pooper:

Yeah they don’t care. Sounds like nonsense drama.

a little clarity would provide context?? who doesnt care the developers?🤔🤔 the game seems ok at best

[Fast Pooper]

Square Enix doesn’t care. They are about making money. The series is no good to them if it’s being held back by random bs. Dont nod is also a disaster. If they made high selling games later on they could’ve bought back the rights to LiS but they are failures who would go out of business without French govt. giving them money.

[IkoN Clan Les legi 102 community]

Originally posted by Fast Pooper:

Square Enix doesn’t care. They are about making money. The series is no good to them if it’s being held back by random bs. Dont nod is also a disaster. If they made high selling games later on they could’ve bought back the rights to LiS but they are failures who would go out of business without French govt. giving them money.

just find it weird square doesnt care about these western games killing off deus ex only to be crushed by embracer leaving any hope fans had for more jenson, yet squares advertisement or promoting of these games didnt really stand out same with the promotion for the eidos guardians game little to a few trailers were advertised as well.🤷🏻‍♂️ sure square only cares about money but life is strange is a smaller ip which feels more like a indie game compared to other games square owns. just seems a bit weird along with the fan backlash arguing.

also dont nod are not failures they made fun games the problem is they struggled to make a concise plan for these characters & lost the rights.

[Fast Pooper]

Well Square Enix are also weirdos who don’t understand a lot of modern gaming trends what people like and dislike but since this is so small there isn’t that much importance to what happens with it. Probably a project some person in the company has to try to advance so they secure fund for a new LiS. Maybe it works maybe the old fans all hate it and it fails.

[Fast Pooper]

Originally posted by IkoN Clan Les legi 102 community:

also dont nod are not failures they made fun games the problem is they struggled to make a concise plan for these characters & lost the rights.

No man, even before LiS their first game almost failed completely. They had help from French govt. and made LiS which was luckily a success but Square Enix still owned everything. So later Square Enix simply removed them when they wouldn’t do what they wanted. Now I see they are owned 42% by Tencent. If they get lucky with their next game that is like LiS maybe they survive.

[IkoN Clan Les legi 102 community]

Originally posted by Fast Pooper:

Originally posted by IkoN Clan Les legi 102 community:

also dont nod are not failures they made fun games the problem is they struggled to make a concise plan for these characters & lost the rights.

No man, even before LiS their first game almost failed completely. They had help from French govt. and made LiS which was luckily a success but Square Enix still owned everything. So later Square Enix simply removed them when they wouldn’t do what they wanted. Now I see they are owned 42% by Tencent. If they get lucky with their next game that is like LiS maybe they survive.

i loved remember me so its sad dont nod wont make a sequel but who knows maybe double exposure will be good as well, also maybe making a new story driven ip could help them gain more traction like vampyre.

plus i mean… we dont work there so cant be sure of how they work as a company vampyre was fun i dont know what its like in france or how they get funding but it sounds like because they're a independent company their resources aren't as efficient or dont have any studio to float back on, or create games with better sales🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

their next game looks weird trying to make a nostalgic 80s local mysterious camp trip, or cabin in the woods story within its hometown creating a retro era, so wonder how that will do.

[IkoN Clan Les legi 102 community]

also this aint good……. https://www.si.com/videogames/news/dont-nod-walkout-october-2024

https://gamerant.com/dont-nod-jusant-banishers-ghosts-of-new-eden-dont-meet-sales-expectations/ surprised their games had low sales or not enough funding for publishers.😞🤔

wonder how it'll affect the games they make maybe sony can scoop them up or someone competent.

[Cat]

The original devs said Max's story is done and she won't use her powers again. The new devs Wana milk the franchise and do a cash grab by throwing max in with new powers and looks.

[IkoN Clan Les legi 102 community]

Originally posted by Cat:

The original devs said Max's story is done and she won't use her powers again. The new devs Wana milk the franchise and do a cash grab by throwing max in with new powers and looks.

:summercat2023:

well ye the devs said that but the point is if they originally planned it as a anthology early on before they made the game there were cut story beats.
hell even if we never got more life is strange games… or they only made the dark horse comic, think having some resolution with these characters would at least be helpful for max’s journey or arc. i haven't read the comic but hear people like it.

tbh id love to see a documentary on the early days of dont nod.

[*******]

WAY TOO LONG TOO READ

IN one go i cant care less who is the voice actor,,, for all i care they replace it with A.I.

Who cares that AShley whatver isnt the voice actor anymore,,,,, entitled american kids that got avoice acting job,,,, its time for A.I. so that no already rich entitled snob gets all the acting jobs anymore !

[*******]

Great thing this way Square enix or the developer can spare the money for over valued already rich entitled american actors,,,, !!!

I hope they all get replaced by A.I. !

[IkoN Clan Les legi 102 community]

Originally posted by *******:

WAY TOO LONG TOO READ

IN one go i cant care less who is the voice actor,,, for all i care they replace it with A.I.

Who cares that AShley whatver isnt the voice actor anymore,,,,, entitled american kids that got avoice acting job,,,, its time for A.I. so that no already rich entitled snob gets all the acting jobs anymore !

if you actually read the post youd understand….. what the original point was.
crazy to think theres a generation who goes wah… this post is too long.😒 its not about the actor its about how life is strange isnt as memorable as other adventure games & how greedy square has become milking it.

[alex010300]

Can't really be bothered by all this.

[IkoN Clan Les legi 102 community]

Originally posted by alex010300:

Can't really be bothered by all this.

????? wdym