|? Without Reason memebers....where u at

[F1aw1ess]

Its been what...almost 20 years? Emo? Silver? bob081? polishdouche? Spartan?

Where you folks at? What you gamin?

We were at the top of the TWL ladder at one point...wasupppp

ET one of the best mplayer games of all time.

[Patrol1985]

I miss my old clan too :( We were a Polish clan called 7teens with the /17/ tag. We competed in local leagues (there was an absolutely FANTASTIC Polish league called D-Day back in RTCW days, which we also played) and in Clanbase internationally. We weren't a top clan by any measure and never reached the level of top, European clans from that time, such as 4Kings or Infensus, but still we had loads of fun!

When I originally joined the clan back in 2002 or something (still in RTCW days, before ET was published) I was 17 years old. Most of the guys on the scene were older - usually 30+. It was very characteristic of RTCW that the average player was "older" and as a result people showed more mature behavior on servers in general compared to other titles of the time.

Unfortunately, ET being free had its positive sides, but also negative ones - namely cheaters. If one was caught it was not a problem to reinstall the game and get a new player number generated unlike in RTCW which required a new cd-key (not that it was a big problem to get one, but still harder than simply reinstalling the game). It was the cheaters that eventually drove my clan away from the title completely :(

[Gnubbolo]

it is true there was a distance in skill between the new ones of ET and the old ones of RTCW, they knew bhop and they ran at triple speed and on Seawall Battery I remember that the engineers flew down the road into the spawn firing grenades.
i remembered the name of the eng: was an italian eurocup winner called Sengo.

[F1aw1ess]

Originally posted by Patrol1985:

I miss my old clan too :( We were a Polish clan called 7teens with the /17/ tag. We competed in local leagues (there was an absolutely FANTASTIC Polish league called D-Day back in RTCW days, which we also played) and in Clanbase internationally. We weren't a top clan by any measure and never reached the level of top, European clans from that time, such as 4Kings or Infensus, but still we had loads of fun!

When I originally joined the clan back in 2002 or something (still in RTCW days, before ET was published) I was 17 years old. Most of the guys on the scene were older - usually 30+. It was very characteristic of RTCW that the average player was "older" and as a result people showed more mature behavior on servers in general compared to other titles of the time.

Unfortunately, ET being free had its positive sides, but also negative ones - namely cheaters. If one was caught it was not a problem to reinstall the game and get a new player number generated unlike in RTCW which required a new cd-key (not that it was a big problem to get one, but still harder than simply reinstalling the game). It was the cheaters that eventually drove my clan away from the title completely :(

Really? Cheating was never a big problem from what I remember. PB pretty much did its job.

[Patrol1985]

Originally posted by The King:

Really? Cheating was never a big problem from what I remember. PB pretty much did its job.

It all comes down to the definition of "big". Sure, it was nowhere near the scale of what happens nowadays in popular titles, where a single ban wave can grab as many as hundreds, if not thousands of cheaters (eg.: in Apex Legends), but at the same time it was noticeably more than in RTCW. Please also note that the clan looked at it from competitive perspective. There were some suspicious activities in some clans and some of these suspicions were confirmed with people getting banned. Some clan members also boasted here and there that "they know of cheats which go through PB".

Obviously every accusation needs to be confirmed, but the reasoning was simple: this was all community driven. The tournaments were "by community for community" and nobody really got anything out of them except for bragging rights (with a few exceptions, such as QuakeCon tournaments). If people, no matter how few, got busted for cheating in competitive matches where it was literally about nothing more than having fun then was it really worth the frustration? This was just sad.

Please also note what I wrote earlier - there were many people playing who were over 30. For teens gaming may be "serious business", but an adult has better things to do than to deal with cheaters in some video game.

I am 35 now and to be honest I have the same attitude. Recently I wanted to give Team Fortress 2 a fair shot. I played three ranked matches and EACH of them had a cheater. We're talking about blatant spinbots here where the cheaters did not even try to hide the fact.
And sure, I could put some more effort into looking for actual, honest community members and play with them on community servers... but I honestly can't be bothered with such stuff. I just want to hop onto some public server and play a game. If I can't do that easily and I can't avoid cheaters, I prefer just to quit the title altogether, which is what I did with Team Fortress 2 after my initial experience.