Really disappointed

[Bearis]

If you like this game don't read this post, i'm making it just to vent about how much fun i'm not having. i know its the first game in the series and they clearly learned a lot but wow this game is bad. having to make farm parties sucks. having to click interact 40+ times to use all my gathering points sucks. having quests that require classes i don't use leveled up sucks. getting trash items i won't use as quest rewards sucks. having to invest 10 skill points into passives i don't want to get an active skill sucks. having active skills be borderline useless until they're level 10 sucks. pressing auto battle for the entire first stratum and a half as the best strategy for 80% of fights including the foes and first boss sucks. having to backtrack through floors i completed because no shortcuts sucks. i love this series and was really looking forward to playing this but i guess i just had no idea how much they improved in the 3ds era and how boring and bad the ds games are. maybe two and three are better but i'm not expecting much.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

The classes definitely all take time to come into their own, and if you're not smart with your skill point allocations might never at all. They thankfully lowered the respec penalty to 5 levels from 10, but it's still quite punishing if you don't spec smart, which is admittedly very difficult when you don't get exact numbers for what each level of a skill does. That said, the entire point of Sekaiju was to be as close to classic Wizardry as possible, so... welcome to our world, lulz.

[Damon]

Originally posted by soulofmana:

At what point does a "farming party" become necessary? I'm in the second stratum and have never felt strapped for cash, and have consistently been able to keep my team's gear up to date.

It has already been said not really. But I kinda remember long ago when I played it there were very expensive top-quality gear. But can't remember the cost and if money is enough to cover all op gear without farming a bit.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

To be fair part of the money issue will come down to luck with drops, and then of course the fact that everyone's pace through the labyrinth will be different depending on how you build your party. While true with many RPGs, whether or not a player prioritizes gather skills in their "main" party, as well as whether they attempt to take out F.O.Es or not will have a pretty significant effect on income I should think.

[korsobar]

People constantly said SoSC and LoR were so much inferior to these EO games but I am just not seeing it so far. I even feel that some second tier experience games might compare favorably to EO1 so far.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Originally posted by korsobar:

I even feel that some second tier experience games might compare favorably to EO1 so far.

Much as I enjoy Sekaiju, I ADORE Experience, and of the dungeon crawlers they've made that I've played (Aoki Tsubasa no Chevalier, Tsurugi no Machi no Ihoujin, Demon Gaze 1, Yomi wo Saku Hana, MonYuu) I can't think of any that is less than top tier. Each has their charm and attraction and I can see myself replaying any of them a number of times to come.

[blizzcarsten]

Originally posted by korsobar:

People constantly said SoSC and LoR were so much inferior to these EO games but I am just not seeing it so far. I even feel that some second tier experience games might compare favorably to EO1 so far.

First Game is the weakest of the DS Triology.

Quests are completly useless if you don't need the Reward which stays this way until the 3rd Game. But the second has at least the best Bartender of the entire Franchise.

Devs did not care about the Lore at all.

Oh no one ever made it past the Second Stratum other then the two Girls.
[We reach Stratum 3]
The Doctor : Oh you reached the 3rd Stratum? Yeah i visted that place when i was young
[We reach Stratum 4]
We get a Quest to help a company who cuts trees there..... Bonuspoints : 4 is a Desert like Area you would think cutting Trees in the first Stratum would make more Sense...

The Plottwist also screams at the Player from 20 Miles away ( at least the first one ) and gosh telling the samu girl : I only explore the labyrinth for the lulz is the best answer in the entire franchise xD

We are also forced to do a lot of evil acts compared to later Titles.

[Bearis]

Look i like this series too i am just venting some disappointment mostly with the class design of what is an old game so its understandable. it's more that i didn't realize how different it was from the remakes and expected something closer to that. less i hate these games more i set myself up. gameplay wise i consider labyrinth of galleria worse than this since it is also an auto battle simulator, but it does have a story to keep it interesting haven't played the other one in that series so can't really comment.

[n0000n]

If you're talking about EO1. Then yeah I also think EO1 is the most tedious of them all.

But I like their later games tho (EO4, 5, X).

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Originally posted by blizzcarsten:

Oh no one ever made it past the Second Stratum other then the two Girls.

Just double-checked, if a foreign version says that it's a mistranslation. The actual dialogue says "I've heard that in the past, quite the number of skilled adventurers made their way to the depths of the 10th floor, but since Kernunnos (boss) enshrined himself on the 10th floor, with the exception of two none of this town's adventurers have reached the third layer."

https://i.imgur.com/xuzUmDx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/chwMhA5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/snlyO3f.jpg

[DangerMoth]

You dont have to make farm parties, its a meme that makes you have a worse time