PC or Switch?

[Klapseninsasse]

I preordered this months ago on the Switch, unfortunately it will still take about 2 weeks for the release here in Europe. Has anyone already played the Switch version? Are there big differences in the performance?

[Klapseninsasse]

The other question is, if I will be able to wait those 2 weeks.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Originally posted by Klapseninsasse:

I preordered this months ago on the Switch, unfortunately it will still take about 2 weeks for the release here in Europe. Has anyone already played the Switch version? Are there big differences in the performance?

Performance is exactly the same to my eye. Biggest difference is being able to use the mouse for drawing the map on the PC version.

[Klapseninsasse]

Thank you! Can you draw with the touchscreen?

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Originally posted by Klapseninsasse:

Thank you! Can you draw with the touchscreen?

I haven't tried since I played using the dock and the Pro Controller, but since preorders of the physical copy came with a stylus for use with the game, I'm sure you can.

[Klapseninsasse]

Oh nice! I'm sure these will be great games to play on the go.
Now, I just have to resist the urge to buy it on the PC too

[retsa2b]

Switch is limited to 1080p, 60fps and no anti-aliasing. Even in the game's current, non-modded state, I can say with absolute confidence that 4K 120fps with 8x AA (which is thankfully an option Atlus gave us for PC) looks freaking fantastic. All we need now is AI upscales of the 2D graphics and we'll be set.

[Klapseninsasse]

Damn it, you got me, I buy both

[Dusklight]

I choose PC because mods.

[Klapseninsasse]

I didn't even know that there are mods, that's a great reason for me to have bought both!

[Krude]

PC because when switch hardware dies away after they've moved onto the next console then you'll not be able to play it.

But steam is pretty much guaranteed to be forever.

[Klapseninsasse]

At least I hope that it's forever.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Originally posted by Plastic:

PC because when switch hardware dies away after they've moved onto the next console then you'll not be able to play it.

But steam is pretty much guaranteed to be forever.

Ironically, this argument is why I prefer physical releases to digital ones - I can go into Super Potato and pick up a Famicom game and play it just as I did over 30 years ago, but the minute Steam goes bankrupt, good bye to all of this.

[Krude]

Originally posted by 魔装機神 Psybuster:

Originally posted by Plastic:

PC because when switch hardware dies away after they've moved onto the next console then you'll not be able to play it.

But steam is pretty much guaranteed to be forever.

Ironically, this argument is why I prefer physical releases to digital ones - I can go into Super Potato and pick up a Famicom game and play it just as I did over 30 years ago, but the minute Steam goes bankrupt, good bye to all of this.

Nah mate, like a decade ago or so there was this big topic of what would happen if steam ended and they basically guaranteed you'd be able to play.

"measures are in place to ensure that all users will continue to have access to their games."

You can find a screenshot from steam support on reddit about it.

Also steam is gargantuan, there's more chance of nintendo going bankrupt than steam, steams so powerful a platform that epic games has to release free games regularly just to coax people to try their platform, and other platforms live in it's shadow, hell even sony is scared of steam or at least was.

You should look into it more, steam is a company that makes like 8 to 10 billion a year in revenue.

Games will work over hardware, if they don't then modding is a thing, they aren't reliant on a specific piece of hardware that will one day break and run out of stock permanently, repairs for switch hardware issues will cease to be a thing eventually outside of third party experts, so joycon drift etc.

also the price to replace a switch in say 2035 will cost you a metric ton rather than the dime a dozen famicons of the past, this is due to the higher chance of issues with the hardware, breaking and the technological advances.

Add in other issues like eshop closing etc

It's not quite the same as you or I going and buying an old snes, hoping it works and plugging a cartridge (right after blowing into it of course ;P )

I get where you are coming from, but compared to steam, it's not a competition. Steam might last as long as the human race tbh, it literally prints money.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Originally posted by Plastic:

Nah mate, like a decade ago or so there was this big topic of what would happen if steam ended and they basically guaranteed you'd be able to play.

"measures are in place to ensure that all users will continue to have access to their games."

It's easy to SAY things like that, but I've never been one to trust corporations, here or abroad. That said, I'm a paranoid person with trust issues in general, so obviously my viewpoint on things isn't always the healthiest.

Originally posted by Plastic:

there's more chance of nintendo going bankrupt than steam

I want to say that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because Yamauchi was a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ genius and very smart about the financing and budgeting and they have a TON stowed away... but ever since Iwata passed and the president has just been a puppet for the investors, all bets are off. It's a real shame.

Originally posted by Plastic:

Add in other issues like eshop closing

Oh for sure, that's also digital, hence why I said physical is the better way to go.

[Krude]

Originally posted by 魔装機神 Psybuster:

Originally posted by Plastic:

Nah mate, like a decade ago or so there was this big topic of what would happen if steam ended and they basically guaranteed you'd be able to play.

"measures are in place to ensure that all users will continue to have access to their games."

It's easy to SAY things like that, but I've never been one to trust corporations, here or abroad. That said, I'm a paranoid person with trust issues in general, so obviously my viewpoint on things isn't always the healthiest.

Originally posted by Plastic:

there's more chance of nintendo going bankrupt than steam

I want to say that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because Yamauchi was a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ genius and very smart about the financing and budgeting and they have a TON stowed away... but ever since Iwata passed and the president has just been a puppet for the investors, all bets are off. It's a real shame.

Originally posted by Plastic:

Add in other issues like eshop closing

Oh for sure, that's also digital, hence why I said physical is the better way to go.

Yeah you seem to get it, I'd have said the same thing of nintendo of the past but now my opinion isn't quite the same, I do wonder how well they will do in a more competitive market for handhelds as well as with them barely releasing any games worth much.

quality over quantity is great, but with recent nintendo I feel like Zelda is carrying them so hard right now with botw and tears of kingdom.

Just so you know what kind of company steam is, gabe newell himself got an email from someone having massive unresolved and unfair issue from a customer and so gabe made it go away and even went so far to give a special key to the person, as he's done before that gives them every game now and future on steam.

That's the literal guy at the top, that's why I will always believe in steam.