Same Complaints Every Release

[Yuki]

Just kinda sick of people ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about pricing. The games were $60 each on release and would be more expensive now cause of inflation and with the bundle on Steam we are essentially getting 3 of them for the price of 2.

They are long, niche games. You don't have to buy all of them. You don't have to buy any of them. You don't have to play them on release. You can wait for a sale.

I am happy they are here and see genuine value in these games.

[Yuki]

Originally posted by gryphonv:

Originally posted by Metro:

Are you trying to say that because of the original platform the media is worth less?

No, but generally cheaper to produce because of the limitations of the original system.

I guess that was the mindset of the original price for the console but some people are able to create masterpieces within those limitations. On my own opinion I consider the EO series more valuable than modern AAA releases but that is purely my subjective view.

[gryphonv]

Originally posted by shade00:

Originally posted by Metro:

Are you trying to say that because of the original platform the media is worth less?

DS games are bloody fun i still have my old ds games and there still fun to play alongside my various other older games
the ds saw many great rpg series like this among others

anyone who disses the DS if thats what there doing is pretty messed up
each generation in gaming is golden, each had there hidden gems the great ones
that are worth playing and replaying

Nobody is saying DS games are bad. I'm willing to bet most people are hear because they loved the original ds games.

But DS games were much more cheaper to develop than almost any game today.

[Yuki]

Originally posted by Shylaar:

Given that handheld games have historically been priced less than console games, that would hold, yes.

Games are multimedia art pieces. Art can change in value over time.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Originally posted by Shylaar:

Those would be good prices for new games, yes. But they aren't new games, they're ports of very old games.

Not sure how young you'd have to be to think of DS games as "very old." That said, I don't really see the argument of "old" meaning it has to be priced less than "new." I'd still pay full price for a straight port of many classic Famicom games compared to things coming out today. Quality is quality. There's a reason Sekaiju no MeiQ 3 is still going for over 10000 on Amazon. I won't argue that lower prices are better for me the consumer, but just being "not a completely original and new title" isn't really an argument IMO.

[gryphonv]

Originally posted by Metro:

Originally posted by gryphonv:

No, but generally cheaper to produce because of the limitations of the original system.

I guess that was the mindset of the original price for the console but some people are able to create masterpieces within those limitations. On my own opinion I consider the EO series more valuable than modern AAA releases but that is purely my subjective view.

I'm a huge fan of the series, as i've said before. I've probably put in 2k hours in between all the games. So yeah I also feel they are masterpieces.

I don't feel the content they are adding justifies the price today, as you get so much more production value with other games of similar value. I feel the 3 should of been bundled as one AAA price.

They may have even made more money doing that. As they will obviously driven more sales. That is debatable though.

[Liger]

Originally posted by Metro:

Just kinda sick of people ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about pricing. The games were $60 each on release and would be more expensive now cause of inflation and with the bundle on Steam we are essentially getting 3 of them for the price of 2.

They are long, niche games. You don't have to buy all of them. You don't have to buy any of them. You don't have to play them on release. You can wait for a sale.

I am happy they are here and see genuine value in these games.

1ST OFF i am not one that is complaining about the price but they where not 60 dollars when they 1st came out they where 39.99 and i think the remastered 3ds ones where 29.99 i do not know where you are getting your price of them being 60 dollars from but that sounds like some shady gamestop or something man.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Originally posted by gryphonv:

I feel the 3 should of been bundled as one AAA price.

That is literally what they did though.

[Yuki]

Originally posted by gryphonv:

I'm a huge fan of the series, as i've said before. I've probably put in 2k hours in between all the games. So yeah I also feel they are masterpieces.

I don't feel the content they are adding justifies the price today, as you get so much more production value with other games of similar value. I feel the 3 should of been bundled as one AAA price.

They may have even made more money doing that. As they will obviously driven more sales. That is debatable though.

I think it's reasonable to not be happy about the price. My motivation for creating the thread was to express my disappointment of those calling to boycott the games or to just slander the series/developer/publisher without offering anything of use.

[Liger]

Originally posted by Fyuun:

I understand the complains for one simple reason. The higher the price, the more people, who never played Etrian Odyssey, will avoid the series on Steam.

Atlus games are really something special, but being able to buy Persona 5 The Royal for $60 (with large discounts from time to time) makes three DS games for more than $60 not really a good value.

The biggest fear is simply that the sales are so horrible because of the huge price point, and even discounts struggle to recover from release day, that Sega/Atlus simply say "no one wants Etrian Odyssey, so we just cancel the new game".

Just look at large AAA companies like Blizzard, one of the biggest online PvE companies. Even such a giant had cancelled ALL promised big PvE stuff for their Overwatch 2 game. The simple fact was that Blizzard was simply not seeing enough profits with the new PvE mode, even though Blizzard is the PvE company that would be able to make the best PvE for an online game.

Do you really think Sega will allow Atlus to waste resources for a new Etrian Odyssey game, if the Steam sales are bad? The only reason Persona 5 Royal came to Steam was because P4G was beyond anything imaginable. But with such a huge price for DS games, it will be really unlikely that the Steam sales will push anything at all.

Why are people saying the games are 60 dollars I have never seen an Etrian Odyssey go for 60 dollars why all the miss information

[gryphonv]

Originally posted by 魔装機神 Psybuster:

Originally posted by gryphonv:

I feel the 3 should of been bundled as one AAA price.

That is literally what they did though.

Um no...

AAA games for me run $60-80. this bundle is $107 at 33% off.

[shade00]

Originally posted by gryphonv:

Originally posted by shade00:

DS games are bloody fun i still have my old ds games and there still fun to play alongside my various other older games
the ds saw many great rpg series like this among others

anyone who disses the DS if thats what there doing is pretty messed up
each generation in gaming is golden, each had there hidden gems the great ones
that are worth playing and replaying

Nobody is saying DS games are bad. I'm willing to bet most people are hear because they loved the original ds games.

But DS games were much more cheaper to develop than almost any game today.

that is questionable
since those were cart based and had to be made in factory's
most consoles began shifting to partial on disk and rest download around ps3 i think
or empty cases with redeem codes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop
does not have these most likely but shows costs of development of some games
or highest better put of some

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etrian_Odyssey
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2023/03/sega-explains-why-etrian-odyssey-origins-collection-costs-usd80

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Originally posted by Liger:

Why are people saying the games are 60 dollars I have never seen an Etrian Odyssey go for 60 dollars why all the miss information

A few responses down on the first page, OP mentioned he was Australian and giving the price in AUD as opposed to USD.

[魔装機神 Psybuster]

Originally posted by gryphonv:

Um no...

AAA games for me run $60-80. this bundle is $107 at 33% off.

Sounds like you got hit with bad regioning then - AAA games here are in the 8-9000 yen range (Armored Core 6 is going for 8690 here on Steam for comparison), and this bundle here is 8979. The physical is actually cheaper, as I got that for 7360.

[shade00]

Originally posted by gryphonv:

Originally posted by 魔装機神 Psybuster:

That is literally what they did though.

Um no...

AAA games for me run $60-80. this bundle is $107 at 33% off.

https://isthereanydeal.com/game/etrianodysseyoriginscollection/info/
70$ without any deeper digging for discounts about 60 think on humble with choice
unsure of your region, but there are discounts around have been

[gryphonv]

Originally posted by shade00:

Originally posted by gryphonv:

Nobody is saying DS games are bad. I'm willing to bet most people are hear because they loved the original ds games.

But DS games were much more cheaper to develop than almost any game today.

that is questionable
since those were cart based and had to be made in factory's
most consoles began shifting to partial on disk and rest download around ps3 i think
or empty cases with redeem codes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop
does not have these most likely but shows costs of development of some games
or highest better put of some

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etrian_Odyssey
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2023/03/sega-explains-why-etrian-odyssey-origins-collection-costs-usd80

EO games were $40 ish in my country on DS. That is with a cart, packaging, sometimes even special edition boxes at no extra cost.

They don't have the cart to factor in that price today. But we do have inflation, so kind of a wash there.

They justify the price by the amount of content(link you gave). Listing 80 hrs over 3 games. By that justificaiton if they had 200hrs of content they could charge $200.

Which we know is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.